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PS3: It Only Still Does No Backwards Compatibility

by Dec 11th 2009 10:30AM 87 Comments

Recenlty, whilst watching the most recent yearly console “prize fight” on CNET I  began to think about one very important topic that wasn’t really discussed. Something that definitely would have made the most recent match up a much more even fight, and might have even swayed it in the 360′s favor. Its something that Sony fans have been accustomed to for quite sometime and at the same time Xbox fans are experiencing for the first time this generation. That little something is a lovely feature called backwards compatibility.

If this feature had been mentioned somewhere along the line during the “prize fight” I honestly believe there could have possibly been a tie. Some (and when I say some, I actually mean the rabid Sony fanboys who foam at the mouth when anything negative is said about their beloved console of choice) will argue that although the 360 has backwards compatibility, the library 0f games available is not even on the same level as what was available on the PS2 (with Halo:CE, Halo 2 and Rainbow Six as a few of the standouts). And in that respect they may be right. However, the fact that Microsoft’s “inferior” (in the eyes of PS3 fans) system is able to accomplish that feat, does speak volumes.

What’s most bizarre is how some people are pointing fingers at CNET for being biased towards the 360, yet the PS3 still won the contest in the end. Did I miss something? It seems as the though the people that follow online gaming journalism have turned their PS3 fanaticism into an online witch hunt. Even if you say something positive, if it doesn’t come out positive enough and/or you don’t also bash the 360, you are a non-believer and should prepare to feel the wrath from the fanboys in the Playstation nation, or whatever the hell they refer to themselves nowadays. Well if you even slightly fit that description listed above, then you probably won’t like what I’m about to say, backwards compatibility as you know it, will never come back to the PS3 and we can only blame ourselves (the gamers) for it.

Just like any other company in the video games business, Sony is a profit driven corporation. And corporations are in the business of making money. In order for them to make money, they need us to open our wallets. Now I’m not calling for a crazy-hippie-tree-huggin’ boycott, but as consumers (and most importantly gamers) we have the ability of swaying trends in certain directions. To put it simply… money talks.

The recent re-hashing of the PS2 classics God of War I & II, I consider it to be somewhat of field test. I’m sure there are teams of marketing strategists closely watching the title’s performance. And although I doubt the GOW collection will sell as much as it did when each respective title launched, I do still believe that if it sells even let’s say about a 5th of what the original games sold, then that will be the only confirmation Sony needs. They will be laughing all the way to the bank as they have just found the ultimate sucker and that sucker is all of us.

Sony went out of their way and poured millions of dollars into R&D to figure out how to emulate the emotion engine on the Cell Processor. This past summer they filed for a patent describing just that. Only to follow it up with a statement that they will no longer support backwards compatibility! They wait a couple months then announce God of War Collection and it is received as the second coming. Did anyone pay attention to anything going on before that?

Why would backwards compatibility even be an issue for Sony anymore? If all they have to do is pretty the game up with some HD graphics and a new frame rate. There will be consumers there, at the ready, to eat that shit up. Sure you don’t have to re-buy the games, and no one at Sony is putting a gun to your head. Hell if you still have a PS2 laying around, bust it out whenever you feel nostalgic. However, what happens when your old reliable PS2 finally kicks the bucket? What happens when you misplace a memory card with game saves that span 10 years? What happens when you simply don’t have the room for both systems? And most importantly, what the hell are you supposed to do with the collection of great games you’ve amassed this passed decade?

Not only was the PS2, the most successful console of all time. It also had (arguably) the best library in video game history. Now that this decade is coming to a close, it can be said that it was the game console that defined it. By not allowing this simple feature to re-enter into the PS3′s many offerings, Sony is dealing us all one big “frak you.”

If you played and still own games from the PS2 era and can honestly sit down and truly empathize or rationalize with Sony’s plan of re-releasing classic titles then you are a lost cause. As you are officially the quintessential brain-dead consumer that most companies look for so they can treat you like the little guy in a penitentiary shower. If you are like me, and growing increasingly worried as less and less talk about backwards compatibility returning on the PS3 is heard, rest assure that you are not alone.

The most ironic part about this whole situation, is that the PS3 only does everything, right? You can use it to watch Blu-Ray’s. Browse the web over wifi. You can even help Stanford Unniversity fold proteins, by using your PS3′s cell processor to make calculations over a world wide computer network when you aren’t using it (folding @ home).

The NSA has a cluster of 2,200 PS3s . Those same PS3s make up the worlds most powerful supercomputer. A computer that will be used to closely monitor and digitally test the United States stockpile of nuclear weapons. Yet… if for whatever reason i have the itch to bust out and play let’s say Amored Core 2 for example, Sony can’t figure out how the PS3 can emulate a 10 year old system? What. The. Frak.

  • LBDz

    People that say the PS3 is losing to the 360 make me laugh. The PS3 was released a year after the 360. In the UK it was 15-18 months after. But the PS3 holds the better games ? The PS3 has the better game exclusives ? The PS3 has more content being released now than the 360. The PS3 is now only 3 million consoles behind the 360, but when the PS3 got released, the 360 had already sold over 10 million consoles world wide. So this shows one thing, and that is the PS3 in the same time scale has sold more than the 360 consoles. This time next year ( MAX ) the PS3 will have sold more consoles than the 360.

  • Gregory Chalikes

    wow utter stupidity in that last paragraph, they already figured out how to have bc on it i know because i have a model of ps3 with bc they stopped makin ps3′s like that tho because it was too expensive and they didnt think it was a necessity especially with their 10 year life span of ps2 so they cut cost by taking out something that probably less than a third of people who have ps3 would use.

  • LBDz

    @ Neutral ps3 & xbox360 fanboy.

    You said that # we have a ps3 fanboy who is irate.#

    Why say that when all he has done is spoke the truth.? I think the poster # GT5 # has a good valid point.

    I own both consoles, and the 360 is so noisy that it ruins film watching. The Power Brick for the 360 weighs more than my PS3 slim, lol, and takes up just as much room. My mate has had 7 RROD’s in two years ( Worst console ever made to date due to highest failure rating ), Play rockband loud with some bass and if your 360 is near the sub, your disc gets scratched.

  • Xbot

    I bought a Sony PS3 to play PS3 games and Blu-ray movies.

  • franwex

    I agree with the post! Good Job! Even though I own a launch 60gig and basically HAVE a PS2 inside my PS3, it was a VERY stupid move to remove PS2 ability. The reason they did it is simple: to reduce cost of the PS3 and for the PS2 to continue selling since it’s so old it’s actually very profitable. It’s all about money.

  • http://myspace.com/spizmusic Spiz The Wiz

    Ive got a BC PS3… I RARELY use bc, unless im playin ff7 or something.. but since i got it off PSN.. im not really stressin BC.

    BUT, i wont get rid of this one when i get a new one….. just because BC is so rare now..

    It all works out.
    good article.

  • Neutral ps3 & xbox360 fanboy

    @LBDz

    You just proved my point. All i was talking about was bc. I agree that the 360 has its share of catastrophies, but its funny that whenever someone utters a con against the ps3, everyone goes crazy and begins to attack the 360 in any way possible. I dont care for the 360 either, but its funny how much people take critizism of the ps3 personally. LBDz, please get some fresh air and enjoy life and while your at it, get a life ;)

  • GalenMyra

    Agree 100%, I’ve been thinking about the same thing and how people can accept this. If we’d just put our feet down and not bought consoles without backwards compabillity we would have it back in no time.

  • ps3-er

    I bought a 60gb to play all 3 game console games I spend most of my time playing ps1 an ps2 games. hardly ever play ps3 games, to me they are to violent for me call of duty,god of war,bioshock etc… love ol school games simple,easy,fun.

  • GalenMyra

    @Balram

    You don’t know what you’r talking about, there’s no emotion engine in the ps3, they removed it to lower manufacturing cost.

    Also, sony has said themselves that there are no bc for ps3 because its not one of the main reasons people are buying a ps3 (= we can make more money if we exclude bc).

  • AK-47 GOD

    Wow this article is dumb. My PS3 has BC. Even if yours doesnt you can DL PS1 games and sometime next year PS2 games. I had a 360 and let me tell you it was almost a big of waste of money as the Wii. If you kids are wanting a game system this xmas get a PS3 it does everything a Wii and 360 do plus more. For those of you complaining bout BC shut up, thats what happens when you beg for a price cut. If its really that important to you spend the extra few bucks for a PS3 that has it or jus stick with the Wii or 360 and keep wishin you had my PS3

  • ps3-er

    PLUS, I’ll be glad when ps3 have VARIETY again. ps3 been out since 2006 and here it is 2009 still same crappy games over an over an over, bioshock,killzone,call of duty,gears of war,god of war,asassin creed,halo,1,2,3, same crap!!!!!!
    I want variety back!!!!!

  • Dale

    @PS3-er

    Shhhh….the big boys are talking. Run along now.

  • Mattias

    My PS3 has backwards compatibility and I enjoy all my favorite PS and PS2 classics on it ^^

  • BC Get Over it!

    I am tired of hearing about BC, If you want to play PS2/PS1 games go and get a PS2 for the price of a PS3 game. The PS3 is A Next-Gen Future Proof System. They have a enough issues with the 3rd party developers they need to focus and try to carry some of the momentum into 2010.
    NOTE: Only The Loyal Sony Customers have BC(80GB/60BG)

  • ps3 er

    i agre ps3 is better then 360 i own both and i actually threw my 36 out the window cuz this is the fith time i got red ring plus my ps3 got bc so im not complaining

  • Tom

    You all shouldn’t have been so cheap and got the PS3 when it first came out, then you would have the BC you are talking about. So I say haha to all you with later versions of the PS3 cause i’ll be sitting back playing Shadow of the Collosus and FFX on my PS3. Lifes good.

  • PS3 Luv-va

    Again! All PS3′s are BC compatible with PS1 games. And the prize round never mentioned that the PSN has a robust library of PS1 games that you can DL and play remotely using a PSP. PS3 CNet Prize fight should have won by a wider margin!!!!

    RE: Say it slowing now, all PS3′s are BC with PS1 games!

  • Jaygon

    OK. The PS3 has backwards compatibility, depending on which model you buy, and if you pay ANY attention to what you buy,you will know which do and don’t, and should base your decision on your preference. Now, The whole fanboy routine. Someone disses something, and the other attacks. The attacker singles out the other fanboys, accusing them of being angry fanboys. But the truth is, you both are pissed at the other for what you are doing to each other,i in the whole process you either clearly state or imply you are against the other. Now listen, I own every console of the last 3 generations, and I see the pros and cons of each. But if you were to deny the truth and make yours sound like a god, you make yourself look like an ass. You see, this page seems mostly to bash the 360, probably because the page is bashing the PS3. Please, would someone just take their hands off their keyboard and just take in the information, instead of using it to flame each other. the truth is, if I were to say,” The Wii sucks!”, a fanboy would defend it. Hell, I could say,” The Virtual Boy sucks!”, and someone would defend it. If these consoles deserved the kind of hate they get, how much money would you think they get? Yeah, someone always buys something, no matter how stupid. But for a company that you accuse of such greed, do you think they would justify the production of such expensive items? Apparently more than a handful of people like it, so they can’t be as awful as you say, which sound like satan incarnations. For example, I hate Wii games that make the wiimote cursor twitchy. I hate the perfect circles the Xbox 360 makes in my discs. I hate how my PS3 fans sound like they’re supposed to make it hover. But I love each of them at their appopriate times. I love the creativity some developers put in their use of the wiimote. I love the feel and response in 360 games. I love the cinematic innovations in PS3 games. So stop bashing the other because they prefer something else that still deserves [raise and respect. Quite a few of us aren’t children, so step up, and say,” I respect you and the game console of which you prefer, and I would like to explain why I like this one.” Step up, and prove to the general population that gamers are not a group of degenerates that resort to violence when provoked and squablle amongst themselves. Just shut up, calm down, pick up that controller and play what YOU want, not bashing what someone else wants to play. Just be a gamer, and do what you do best, game.

  • TheChimpIsHere

    haha

    you erased my post….truth hurts don’t it?

  • MoMoney

    PS3s all do PS1 BC, which is all I care about. 8D

  • Xbot

    I bought a Sony PS2 to play PS2 games and dvd movies.

  • duffman

    the reason i dont buy a ps3 is the way sony do business they are very corupt . they stomp on smaller competition and expect do get sales they dont even make there on games they had to buy where they are without there developers they would be nothing .

  • BruceXT

    I have played Videogames for almost 15 years.
    I have a large collection of Amiga, PC, PS1, PS2, Xbox games. The only one that i can’t play today are the PS2 titles.
    I can’t admit that a PSn? can’t execute something from PSn-1.
    I wan’t buy ANYTHING until this is fixed. (I wan’t to see again my dear Z.O.E. :-*)

  • Dirk

    I have a launch PS3 and the emotion engine chip is physically installed, which at that time is how they solved the backwards compatibility problem. I can play PS2 games if I want to despite Firmware updates that remove software compatibility.

  • Gues who

    _Gregory Chalikes_

    He is talking about emulation you retarded twat

  • http://n4g GJOVER73

    iv got the og ps3 with backwards compatibility and iv never played ps2 games on it . its not that bigger deal if you what play ps2 games play them on ps2 sorted

  • LBDz

    @ Neutral ps3 & xbox360 fanboy

    You was not just talking about JUST BC, not at all. You are insulting peoples opinions and views, which is what FANBOI’S do when they don’t like hearing how their console Fails. ( Like the 360 has done in the OP’ers article in the face off )

    The very first thing your talked about was PS fanboys, and how PS3 fanboys need to get out once in awhile, and saying stuff like (Time to get a life) to people. ( Look in the mirror matey )

    You say HOW the PS3 is losing to the 360, yet in FACT that is not true, as the PS3 HAS SOLD MORE OF IT’S CONSOLES FASTER THAN THE 360 IN THE SAME TIME SPAN. hope you understand this FACT.

    You are a loss cause my friend.A Fanboi view is not a good way of being a REAL gamer.

    The PS3 is in FACT the best EVER released console to date. It is a FACT that the PS3 has more TECH than ANY other console on the market ever released to date. It is a FACT that the PS3 is the better Media Console in the market to date. It is a FACT the PSN holds over 33 million ACTIVE members, where XBL only holds 20 million members ( including silver accounts ) Yet it is FACT that XBL has been running longer than PSN by 4 years.

    All this mentioned above goes to show that Backwards compatible is not a selling point for the PS3 console, and that people buy the PS3 for what it can give now, NOT what it could do for the past consoles.

    Why can’t people see this.?

  • navi

    For a start the PS2 main processors had some crazy internal bandwidth that is higher than even the ps3 has. Try checking out the necessary hardware for ps2 emulation on a pc to understand my point. You require graphics card orders of magnitude more powerful than the rsx and substantial ram to get off the ground.
    Secondly the hd upscaling of early ps3′s cannot be compared to the time and effort to port God of War collection to ps3. God of War collection is PS3 code running on a PS3 using only PS2 assets. It is worth a budget release at the very least.
    The main reason is architectural differences, and its the main reason we will unlikely see backwards compatibility on the PS4.

  • Aaron

    I bought gen1 of the PS3. I have enjoyed backward compatibility from day one. I realize Sony has dropped support on the newer versions. Im glad I made my decision to purchase when I did. I don’t play ps2 games much but sometimes I get an itch to play every now and then.

  • Amazing

    Wow, another Piece-of-Scrap 3 story of iCan’t anymore.

  • HuzkerDan

    As a longtime avid gamer, I think backwards compatibility is vastly overrated. I have anywhere from 60-70 PS2 games and 50-60 XBOX games still, and they sit in my store room along with other systems. Since the launch of the current generation, I haven’t even thought about going back to play any of my PS1, PS2, or Original Xbox games. BC is a moot feature to me. Others may feel different.

  • Paul W

    Anyone who didn’t buy a PS3 because it has no backwards compatibility really didn’t want a PS3 all that much in the first place.

    If you’d never had a PS2 (as I haven’t) the alility to play some games that you’d never played before, without having to buy a dusty old PS2, would be appealing. But if you’d already got as PS2 and want to continue to play it then you’ll make the space to play it.

    The Gamecube couldn’t play N64 cartridges but Nintendo players weren’t complaining. When they wanted to enjoy the old N64 games they got their N64 out.

    I’d much more question Sony’s decision to release the PS2 with only 2 ports , in order to make people buy a ‘multitap’ if they wanted to play 4 player games , when the Dreamcast and even the N64 had 4 ports.

    I’d also question why, for a console that was supposed to be an elite experience out of the box, the PS3 didn’t come with a HDMI lead.

  • M.Bellacio

    Welcome to the throwaway society. I have to agree that it’s kind of lame that Sony left backwards compatibility out of the PS3. I’m always amazed at these gamers who cop an attitude when the next gen arrives and act like the last generation of games are now completely useless to play. “Man, I don’t play PS2 anymore! That’s old!!!” Supid, stupid, stupid. If you ask me, anyone who gets hung up on being the first to have the latestand greatest console or whaever is NOT a true gamer. Gamers play for FUN.

  • AK-47 GOD

    I dont know what you ppl are talkin bout PS2s are easy to get. They have em everywhere. There even in ads still. Go to your local Wal-mart and buy 1 for $99, with a game. And like I said before the PS store has a good selection of PS1 games that grows every week and PS2 games will be available next year sometime. But I too think that BC is kinda pointless. My PS3 has BC and I rarely ever play my PS1 or PS2 games and I have all the Metal Gear Solids dont play em. But yea its nice to have that extra feature even if its pointless.

  • http://www.crave-gaming-network.com jordankid93

    I agree with you on this point. Sony SHOULD release ps2 games on the ps3 be it via emulation, blu-ray remakes, psn, w/e. However I feel from both a GAMER perspective, and a business one, it’s not really needed. Sure it’s be nice to replay Sands of Time, FFX, BLACK, or even Most Wanted again on my ps3 (I have an original 60gb, but for the sake of the post, let’s assume i have say a Slim) but with SOOO many great games coming out now, when would you have the time to go back and fully enjoy the classics like you did when they first released? I tell myself all the time I’m gonna go back and finish FFX (last boss lol) but with games like MW2, Dragon Age, Borderlands, Uncharted 2, AC2, and R&C out now along with MANY MANY more coming out Q1 2010, I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO (at least for a looong time). Basically my point is that, yes, backwords compatibility would be a great addition to the already great PS3, but exatly how much use would people get out of it at this point. I think they should do what they did for GOW. Re-release great games with updated graphics, frame rates, and features (trophies, leader boards, maybe HOME unloackables?) that people would want and put their resources to stuff people want more than BC *cough* Cross Game Chat *cough*. At least that’s what I think.

  • JDG

    Sony is doing this all wrong and stomping on peoples feet. Fact is somebody out there some day will figure out how to make the PS3 slim backwards compatile without sony’s help. Sony is hurting thier own oreputation and future prospects of selling the PS4. I will never buy the PS4 now. I dont trust them any more.

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