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Microsoft’s Albert Penello Investigates Xbox One/PS4 Resolution Differences, Discusses Findings

by on October 15, 2013 7:41 PM 97

Microsoft’s Director of Product Planning Albert Penello has been on the forefront of the promotion of the Xbox One lately, but apparently he’s also been asking himself some questions about the relative power of the Xbox One and its rival, the PS4. There have been lots of news and rumors on what games runs at what resolution and framerate on what platform, and apparently Penello decided to try and find out some solid data.

Everything begun with a question on Twitter, just yesterday:

The discussion moved on the NeoGaf forums today, where users presented Penello with the following list.

Playstation 4

  • The Order: 1886 = 1920×800
  • KillZone: Shadow Fall = 1920×1080 (MP=60fps, SP=30fps)
  • Infamous: Second Son = 1920×1080
  • DriveClub = 1920×1080 (Targeting 60fps)
  • Resogun = 1920×1080 (60fps)
  • Knack = 1920×1080
  • Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag = 1920×1080
  • Thief = 1920×1080
  • Blacklight: Retribution = 1920×1080
  • Warframe = 1920×1080
  • Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1920×1080
  • Flower = 1920×1080 (60fps)
  • FIFA = 1920×1080
  • DC: Universe Online = 1920×1080 (60fps)

Xbox One

  • Killer Instinct = 1280×720 (60fps)
  • Ryse: Son of Rome = 1600×900
  • Forza 5 = 1920×1080 (60fps)
  • Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1920×1080
  • FIFA = 1920×1080
  • Dead Rising 3 = “Dynamic” Resolution (30fps)

Penello confirmed that the list was what he was looking for, and started to wade through the data:

No. This is what I’ve been looking for. I found some others, but this has references.

So outside of this list, no confirmed resolutions for the Xbox One versions?

Also didn’t DICE say BF4 was 900p on both? I saw articles referencing both.

When questioned on whether he knew anything about Battlefield 4‘s resolution, he actually revealed something quite interesting: Apparently third parties aren’t really keen on sharing their results with almost anyone within the Xbox team.

When I was searching I saw an article on it. I don’t actually know, so I can’t confirm anything.

To be clear – I don’t know the resolution for every 3rd party game on XBO. I don’t know why people think I would. Do you believe the 3rd parties are giving me a report on the latest resolutions of their games? Or I can just call up and they will share it?

I know the resolutions of our First party games, that’s it.

And, to be clear, I was asking if anyone had a list COMPARING Xbox One and PS4 resolutions. Even in the list above, it doesn’t give me the XBO resolutions for a lot of 3rd parties.

I ended up generating my own list.

Of course he was asked to share his list, and here’s what he found out:

Well my list has a lot of holes in. It basically looks the same as what was posted above – I can’t find comparisons of both platforms for 3rd party titles.

Basically, what I see is that Sony’s first party games are all 1080p. Our games are a mix. And of course you mix inconsistencies on framerates where both KI and Forza are 60fps, DC and Knack are 30, and KIllzone is a mix.

But I was more curious about the 3rd party titles and I’ve found no official comments on their resolutions. Given that, and the fact I don’t know because they are 3rd party games, means I can’t draw any conclusions.

Upon further questioning, he explained how the relationship between the Xbox team and third parties works, mentioning that only very few at Microsoft are privy on sensitive information from third parties.

I’m sorry that peoples’ lack of understanding of our team works, gets translated into me being disingenuous.

OF COURSE we have a 3rd party team that works very closely with publishers.

That team is organizationally separate from the rest of us. Why? Because that team deals with very sensitive information. Remember, we are both a competitor and a partner to our publishers.

To preserve that balance, our 3rd party team isn’t in the habit of doling out information to the rest of the team, including me, whenever we want. I don’t get to walk over there and see whatever I want, or get these types of questions answered because of my position.

So what do you want to be true? That I can walk over and get any piece of information I want about any 3rd party game? Or that the IP of our partners is secured organizationally so publishers are confident that what they share with that team remains confidential?

Because the latter part is true. So yes, a lot of these details I will get near the same time the game actually ships.

So let’s use some common sense. Almost nobody that works on Xbox knows details of 3rd party games besides that team.

That’s quite an interesting statement, especially considering how often you see journalists and alleged “insiders” stating that they heard that this or that game runs at this or that resolution (just yesterday on NeoGaf the usual “Insider” CBOAT stated that there are going to be more sub-1080p games on Xbox One for instance).

If even someone like Microsoft’s Director of Product Planning doesn’t know that kind of sensitive data, maybe we should start considering the information we receive from much less official sources with a bit of a grain of salt.

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  • Michael Clanton

    this is common sense…usually when a rumor supports whatever side your rooting for (x1 or ps4), then it becomes fact and people run with it. Its just the immaturity of the vocal gamer that makes us all look like childish fanboys

    • herbspeidel

      Amen to that. Couldn’t be said better. I just don’t get why XB1 and PS4 fanboys need to know what console is marginally better than the other. Does it really mean one game is less of an experience than the other? Don’t get me wrong tho, it’s fine having a preference, but why does it always seem that automatically this means you HAVE TO hate and trash the other console? This has been confusing to me since the first xbox and the ps2, and it seems with each new generation, it gets worse.

      • Pancakes

        Sony Fanboys started it. So there.

        • Matt

          How old are you two? By god…

        • Dynasty2201

          It’s called “Karma”.

          I mean, let’s face it, Xbox fanboys started the “PS3 has no games” bullshit.

          Now it’s our turn.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            @Dynasty2201

            “Karma”

            STFU?

      • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

        You forgot “Nintendo” gamers…

    • Dennis Crosby

      You You should make that a quote

    • Russell Gorall

      Everyone except you and Penello are going by what the developers are saying. They would probably know.

  • Blahblah

    Michael shut it

  • Shane Bryan

    Oh FFS. You make “If even someone like Microsoft’s Director of Product Planning doesn’t know that kind of sensitive data” sounds like that’s some kind of failing on his part. He clearly keeps his nose out of that information due to the sensitivity of it and the reasons that he mentioned, clearly – himself.

    • Guest

      When I was searching I saw an article on it. I don’t actually know, so I can’t confirm anything.

      To be clear – I don’t know the resolution for every 3rd party game on XBO. I don’t know why people think I would. Do you believe the 3rd parties are giving me a report on the latest resolutions of their games? Or I can just call up and they will share it?

      I know the resolutions of our First party games, that’s it.

      And, to be clear, I was asking if anyone had a list COMPARING Xbox One and PS4 resolutions. Even in the list above, it doesn’t give me the XBO resolutions for a lot of 3rd parties.

      I ended up generating my own list.

      Of course he was asked to share his list, and here’s what he found out:

      Well my list has a lot of holes in. It basically looks the same as what was posted above – I can’t find comparisons of both platforms for 3rd party titles.

      Basically, what I see is that Sony’s first party games are all 1080p. Our games are a mix. And of course you mix inconsistencies on framerates where both KI and Forza are 60fps, DC and Knack are 30, and KIllzone is a mix.

      But I was more curious about the 3rd party titles and I’ve found no official comments on their resolutions. Given that, and the fact I don’t know because they are 3rd party games, means I can’t draw any conclusions.

      Upon further questioning, he explained how the relationship between the Xbox team and third parties works, mentioning that only very few at Microsoft are privy on sensitive information from third parties.

      I’m sorry that peoples’ lack of understanding of our team works, gets translated into me being disingenuous.

      OF COURSE we have a 3rd party team that works very closely with publishers.

      That team is organizationally separate from the rest of us. Why? Because that team deals with very sensitive information. Remember, we are both a competitor and a partner to our publishers.

      To preserve that balance, our 3rd party team isn’t in the habit of doling out information to the rest of the team, including me, whenever we want. I don’t get to walk over there and see whatever I want, or get these types of questions answered because of my position.

      So what do you want to be true? That I can walk over and get any piece of information I want about any 3rd party game? Or that the IP of our partners is secured organizationally so publishers are confident that what they share with that team remains confidential?

      Because the latter part is true. So yes, a lot of these details I will get near the same time the game actually ships.

      So let’s use some common sense. Almost nobody that works on Xbox knows details of 3rd party games besides that team.

    • Giuseppe Nelva

      There was no intention at all of making it sound like a failing. As a matter of fact I have nothing but respect for Penello, especially because he doesn’t shy away from discussion, even heated.

      It’s simply a comparison. Meaning that if even someone that high at Microsoft doesn’t get that kind of data, it’s very unlikely that many of the alleged “insiders” talk with any kind of real knowledge.

      • RandomUser2yr29387

        Actually these “insiders” can get information from a variety of sources.

        I seriously doubt that knowing the resolution of a game is “sensitive information”. Come on….I’m sure if Penello asked they would get an answer.

        Microsoft engineers must also have knowledge of how devs are struggling to reach 1080p on Xbox One. I’m sure they’re received complaints.

        • http://dualshockers.com Joel Taveras

          The beauty about “sources” is that many of these “insiders” pull them out of their ass.

          The same way that you’re so “sure” Penello would get an answer from partners who are — at times — his own competition.

          You’re assuming a little too much here.

        • Gavin

          Where have you heard that devs are struggling to reach 1080p? Let me help you out, they aren’t struggling. The Xbox One has more than enough power to pump out 1080p. It’s a give and take between resolution and other image fidelity issues. Same goes for PS4.

          • RandomUser2yr29387

            Ryse = 900p
            Killer Instinct = 720p

          • Gavin

            That didn’t answer my question in any way, shape or form.

        • Shane Bryan

          Well in terms of ‘we don’t want our competitors to know’ then it is ‘sensitive information’ during the development cycle. If ‘insiders know’ then your competitor may know, but still has to make assumptions, but If the public knows, your competitor definitely knows.

          These days, that’s all it takes. Your competitor will shoehorn any perceived discrepancy or difference between your product and theirs into some kind of lame marketing stunt and many of the mouth breathing unwashed cellar dwellars fall for it.

    • Russell Gorall

      Then why did he jump into the conversation on his own? He kept his nose out of the info, yet wanted to be part of the discussion for Microsoft?

      That makes no sense.

      That being said, games like Battlefield 4 are going to probably look like crap compared to PC version for both console. Which is why I don’t see the sense in buying any game coming out on ten different formats (BF4, Ghosts, AC4, Watch Dogs).

  • Kamille

    don’t even dare to read, too awkward.

  • Megaman

    EXACTLY….People on these sites are so stupid it makes me think half of our population is brain dead….STOP SPREADING RUMORS AND THESE SO CALLED FACTS….PLAY THE GAME FIRST

  • KuchikiSentou

    I don’t get it…
    Why does this Penello person even bother?

    • RandomUser2yr29387

      He was dispatched to NeoGaf by Microsoft to do damage control.

      • KuchikiSentou

        By saying all Sony 1st party games are 1080?
        Social media will be the death of us all.

        • http://dualshockers.com Joel Taveras

          Penello just won employee of the month at SCEA.

          • Tammy Donson

            ^^ I lol’d.

          • Russell Gorall

            OUCH!

        • DarkMaturus

          Don’t forget he states the lower frame rates of Sony Titles as well!!!

    • Eagles83

      He is just being honest. He reported the games on ps4 that run at 1080p just like he reported the ones on Xbox that don’t. However there are trade offs and some of the sub 1080 games run at 60 fps while the Sony games are 30 at 1080p. It is up to the developer to decide what is the better trade off. Neither console is really that powerful to begin with so I’m not sure why anyone is up in arms over this.

      • Joseph Lan

        Trade-offs such as Ryse running at 900p and 30fps. And Dead Rising also running at less than 1080p w/ an unstable 30fps.

        • Eagles83

          This is a ridiculous argument. The PS2 was less powerful than the original Xbox but the vast majority of people would say that it was the better console. Power has nothing to do with what is the better product and you should recognize that. I could care less about fanboy bragging rights because that is just pathetic. You shouldn’t slam the other console just because you can’t afford to get both or don’t want to.

          Going back to the original point about the trade-offs where you brought up Ryse and Dead Rising 3. Ryse has some of the highest polygon modeled characters of all time. Only one PC game bests it. That is the trade-off and why it is slightly less than 1080 and running at 30 fps. Dead Rising also has the polygon related trade-off due to the thousands of npc zombies that can appear on screen. This is basic math. Any machine only has so many polygons that it can render and therefore if that is the goal then either the resolution or the fps will need to be compromised to achieve it. The PS4 is no different. Can you point to a PS4 game that has the same polygon count as Ryse or the thousands of npc characters that also runs at either 1080 or 60 fps. The answer is no. They do not have equivalent games in their launch lineup so this comparison can’t be made. The PS4 is around 20% more powerful as a best case scenario which at the end of the day is less of a gap than there was between the PS3 and 360. It is meaningless to talk about.

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            :D Preach it brothah!

          • Brother man

            PS2 came out in 2000, while the Xbox came out November 2001. No question that Microsoft has a more powerful console (being the PS2 already being out for almost 2 years before they came out). As for sales, the PS2 DOMINATED Xbox and the gamecube. Look up the sales for yourself and see.

          • NESter

            Didn’t the same thing happen with the 360/PS3 only the reverse in favor of the XBOX?
            Ill save you the trouble of looking it up…. Yes. (although sales have equaled out, Xbox went from 130mil units behind to dead even over one generation)
            So Eagles point still holds true. I also love your math, how 13 months= 2 years. Carefully, your fanboy is showing.

            This will be fun:
            This is a ridiculous argument. The [Xbox 360] was less powerful than the [PS3] but the vast majority of people would say that it was the better console. Power has nothing to do with what is the better product and you should recognize that. I could care less about fanboy bragging rights because that is just pathetic. You shouldn’t slam the other console just because you can’t afford to get both or don’t want to.

          • marvin83

            Wrong. PS3 has surpassed 360 in sales. Look it up.

          • NESter

            I have, and depending on the various sources (VGcharts, NPD) Sony has the lead by about 1 million units. Sorry sales are not EXACTLY Identical. I hope that’s not the base of your argument, especially since its basically what I already stated in mine.
            Notice how neither post, Eagle’s, Brother’s or mine state a winner between 360/PS3 based on sales yet that’s the only counterpoint you make?

          • Eagles83

            Only because Japanese gamers refused to support an American made console. If Microsoft had more support then they would have had more sales. Look it up.

            Regardless sales is not a factor in what is a better product.

          • Russell Gorall

            Or American gamers refused to support a Japanese console?

            That is like saying, “Japanese sales should not count because their eyes are thin”.

            Please explain “looking it up”, also? There is nothing to look up as far as racism or nationalism on either side. This is sales.

          • Eagles83

            You can infer a lot based on sales. I’m not racist or prejudice but when Microsoft tried to sell both of their systems in Japan they have flopped horrendously. You can say that maybe they thought the product wasn’t good but then you would have to ask yourself why are they the only nation that had sales like this when most other countries loved all of the systems. My guess is that it is related to national pride and not racism. Both Nintendo and Sony are Japanese companies so they support them more than the American counterpart. That is all that I was getting at with my comment. How you arrived at racism I have no idea.

            American’s don’t have the same pride as nothing is made here anymore so it is going to be a Chinese or Japanese product anyway.

          • Eagles83

            Did I say that the original xbox sold more? I was talking about which one was considered the better console which I acknowledged was the PS2. You should really learn to read. Sales has nothing to do with better console anyway as it is just a matter of perspective. For instance the Nintendo handhelds always sell more than Sony’s products but I personally prefer Sony’s devices in that area. Does that mean that Nintendo’s is a better device?

            Also my point wasn’t that the original xbox had better graphics than the PS2 as that would be obvious as it was a newer device. My point was that graphics didn’t matter because the PS2 was still a better game system. Your reasoning skills are scarily sub-par.

          • Hamsterfist

            and the SNES was more powerful. I don’t know why people hold up the fact that the PS2 was less powerful as proof of anything. It was a different era first of all. Consumers today generally are more educated and even grandma’s now research stuff on the internet. I’m not sure that was totally true in 2000. (These consoles are also more like computers, of which there is a greater trend of comparing stats.)

            Also it should be considered that not only is the PS4 obviously more powerful. (At this point, it’s a fact, not a big deal, but it is true.) It is also cheaper….

            So are consumers going to pick the cheaper/more powerful console or the console with kinect? I mean, basically that is it right? The one selling point with the Xbone is kinect. The question is, do consumers even care about it? I have my doubts and Microsoft has been doing nothing but striking out lately, so……

          • Eagles83

            The kinect isn’t the only selling point. With Microsoft you are buying into the superior online service that they have which now will include dedicated servers for developers that want to use that feature, HDMI input so the Xbox One can control tv programming with voice control or via the snap feature that allows two things to be displayed at once similar to picture in picture. You are severly selling the Xbox One differences compared to the PS4. The only thing Sony has really added since the PS3 has been a share button and a knock-off kinect. Where is their innovation? BTW I don’t count the silly touchpad as innovation. I don’t like it on my Vita and it is just going to cause developers to use it when traditional controls would be better.

          • slasaru

            Man, i have no doubts Sony will be rleasing HD ports like they did on ps3 and PS fanboys will be saying: “see? We have more 1080p games!”

      • Russell Gorall

        He asked for answers, when he got answers and links on GAF he wanted more proof. Then he got emotional, imo. I don’t know, think what you think.

        It is part of a larger problem of MS PR. They get on the Internet and look foolish, then try to sell you a used car at their other job.

        • Eagles83

          I think Microsoft has been terrible from a PR standpoint with all of the representatives that they have been using thus far with the exception of Albert. I think for the most part he has been fair in his representation. The only thing that I didn’t buy from him was the performance power issue because I know hardware pretty well and I’m not buying that although I do think he has a point that the difference is not large enough to really be a factor.

          The key thing is that he isn’t privy to 3rd party information and I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one and the fact is that the systems do not have equivalent games that can be directly compared. Ryse and Dead Rising (two games which I really don’t have an interest in personally) are throwing a lot of polygons around so compromises had to be made. The PS4 doesn’t have anything on the same level when it comes to that. They focused on making 1080 games for the most part and that is what they did but they weren’t throwing around as many polygons and not running at 60fps for everything either. Resogun, Knack, and Flower (last gen game) are so simple they should render at that speed and resolution. Using them in the equation is lopsided.

    • Daniel Jassé

      because everyones saying 3rd party titles will run in higher res on ps4 but hes pointing out that theres no concrete evidence yet to make a comparison. some people dont realise this and just pass on rumour which elevates to being gospel.

      • oofy

        Gospel being passed on by fanatics.

  • Jin

    console peasants jerking off to 1080pathetic

    • RandomUser2yr29387

      It’s all about the gameplay. Graphics are only icing on the cake.

      Stay salty, Jin.

    • N4GCrossingEden

      Sorry, but you PC fanboys are stupid. Xbox One is going to smash ALL platforms. Why else is Valve/Sony/Nintendo and Apple all trying to bash Microsoft/Xbox?

      Also, anyone who purchases anything but a Xbox One, is a poor black/asian man.

      • Emedan

        HAHA you serious? The Xbox One is actually quite underpowered compared to PS4, let’s not even talk about PC where computational power is many times higher just in the GPUs

        • Eagles83

          The Xbox One isn’t “quite underpowered” compared to the PS4. They are relatively close with the PS4 have at best a 20% advantage. Again both consoles have GPUs that are weaker than last gen PC cards. One of my gpu’s can produce 4 TF of performance whereas the PS4 is at 1.8. Neither console is worth writing home about in this regard so the PS4 graphics elitist thing should probably stop. Graphics don’t really matter much anyway as they will be close enough to be a superficial difference.

          • Emedan

            Sorry you’re wrong. It’s closer to 40% which is twice what you said. I’m not saying anything against PC (I’ve been primarily a PC gamer since the mid 90s and didn’t even own a console this generation) cause you’re absolutely right there. That does not however diminish the PS4s advantage of the Xbox One. The 32mb eSRAM solution isn’t even enough to push 1080p on a modern game engine with any type of AA solution. That alone is a huge blow.

          • Eagles83

            Where is your proof that it is 40% The information out there is purely speculative based on the number of compute cores. However graphics power as it relates to compute cores is not a linear increase. As the number of cores are increased the efficiency goes down. For instance I have two video cards and one of them has 50% more cores than the other which is the same situation as with the PS4 and Xbox One. However, the better card is only 20% more powerful at best and is usually around 15%. Go look at PC card performance numbers and you will see this 40% increase is a myth. It will not happen.

        • Emedan

          Proof? Do you not know how digital technology works? Computational power can easily be calculated. PS4 and Xbox One share the same architecture which means that for the first time ever it’s not about any architectural intricacies. The PS4 can push more out of its hardware with a more efficient memory solution. See it as two cars of the same exact model but one of them (the PS4) just happened to have the more powerful motor. A V8 compared to a V6. There’s no mystery here, it’s pretty basic mathematics. The PS4 GPU is actually 50% more powerful, but taking memory into consideration the hardware as a whole is somewhere around 40% more powerful with the GPU being the most important component for computer graphics. What you’re saying is not even true, ROPs and CUs does scale linearly. It’s a fact that computational power of the ps4 is 1.84 TFLOPs while the Xbox One is 1.31 (though 10% is reserved for snap function). There’s no disputing this, it’s maths; The PS4 is more powerful and by a large margin. It’s not speculative at all, so what the heck are you talking about?

          • You are flat out wrong

            Don’t worry, DA CLOWD will make up the difference!

      • Eagles83

        Xbox One isn’t going to smash anything other than the last gen systems and the Wii U. The PS4 is a little more powerful than the Xbox One but not by a large margin. I’d say even less of a margin than there was between PS3 and 360 so it shouldn’t even be a big issue.

  • You are flat out wrong

    Penello damage control is the best damage control.

    Piss off, Albert.

    • X1ultimateGamer

      STFU

    • Guest

      YOU piss off low IQ and no-life PAUPER!

      • You are flat out wrong

        You like to use that word a lot. May I suggest reading more than takeaway menus and broadening your vocabulary?

      • OMGitsSexyChase

        dude for the last time, pauper is not a cool word jesus christ dude your so lame, we know its you….being anonymous doesn’t work when you say the same thing everytime

    • Eagles83

      You are probably the most pathetic online troll that I have ever seen and that is saying something.

  • foureyes oni

    huh these games are releasing one month away on the console he is
    working for and he has no idea what the resolution will be. That makes
    no sense whatsoever. The only reason i could see a third party not
    telling penello its resolution is if it was lower than what Microsoft
    would like.

  • The-Master

    *facepalm*
    Why don’t you concentrate on making games instead of obsessing with the competition?
    You are more interested in what PlayStation is doing than what you should be doing.
    I highly doubt the native resolution would even matter since, by your saying, games will be upscale in 1080p anyway. Unless of course, that’s if it’s not standard in the console.
    Quality TVs will upscale 1080p video into 4k res.

    • Joseph Lan

      Albert Penello was relieved of his former official job title of “Director of Product Planning,” last month. As of today, he serves as Microsoft’s official “Social Media Damage Controller.”

    • marvin83

      Upscaling isn’t native. Huge difference. That’s like putting a DVD in your Blu-Ray player and since it upscales you’re getting a Blu-Ray quality picture. Try harder.
      *facepalm*

      • The-Master

        I know, I know. It’s hard to say good things about Xbox One.
        PS4 is aiming for 1080p 60 frames/second.

  • Stranger On The Road

    Yes, but wasn’t there a story sometime ago where a developer said that they will intentionally under power the PS4 version of their games due to political reasons. How can we have a honest 3rd party compression between the 2 platforms if this accusation is not proven false first by the developers?

  • Carlo

    What ever happened to the days when games were just about being fun and enjoyable rather than obsessing every single pixel. Sorry to sound old but im just getting tired of all of these which is better stuff. For shooters I understand the need for good framerate especially if you’re competitive but to nitpick on every single thing =.=

  • Joseph Lan

    “If even someone like Microsoft’s Director of Product Planning doesn’t
    know that kind of sensitive data, maybe we should start considering the
    information we receive from much less official sources with a bit of a
    grain of salt”

    CBOAT has been providing Xbox-insider information since 2005, and he’s reportedly been very accurate. Some of this information is good news, some of it is bad news.

    Every employee at Microsoft might not know every single detail about 3rd-party games, but I bet anything that they know a lot more than the average person.

    Let’s not also rule out the fact that Albert “Damage Control” Penello might be lying (or “embellishing the truth”) whenever he says something.

    • Gekko36

      It took 4 sentences to say you don’t believe him, in the guise of “I think CBOAT is right and I think the other one is a liar”?
      So… In short, you don’t know, and are just choosing a horse in the race where the other rider has said plain and simple “I don’t know”… Don’t be a knob

      • Censure

        Why anyone liked your comment is beyond me. What he did is called “inductive reasoning.” Rather than just say he doesn’t believe Penello over CBOAT, he provided supporting evidence to justify his conclusion. Your argument, on the other hand, was nothing more than an ad hominem attack and a deliberate, or unwitting due to a comprehension failure, gross distortion of your opponent’s argument.

        • Gekko36

          That’s the second time I’ve had someone suggest I’m attacking them, leave the Latin to the scholars. There was no evidence only an opinion. Lets look at it shall we.

          1. CBOAT – His opinion on CBOATS credibility and history

          2. Microsoft must know – Stating the obvious but not supporting his argument

          3. Suggesting Penello is telling lies or embellishing

          This was not “inductive reasoning” this was popping his finger in the air and seeing where the wind it blowing.

          There was nothing wrong with my comprehension. However, my over simplification of his argument was a little harsh, I’ll admit.

          cusan i mi bachgen mawr

          As we say at home xxx

  • MoukkGamer

    PS: 4 | XB: 1

  • Marc Carter

    Most would prefer sub 1080p and 60fps, I know I would.

    • marvin83

      You don’t need 60fps on ALL games.

      • Marc Carter

        I’m just saying I would take 720p-900p/60fps over 1080p/30fps everytime. We’ll see which console delivers soon.

  • Kayser

    if they cut out kinect and sold the xboxone for 400$ it would’ve made it more appealing , but at 500$ it made ps4 much better offer .
    in next 2 to 3 years we will see if the ps4 gpu will show its true colors wether its the gap between them is big as they said or not .

    • marvin83

      As the Xbone evolves so does the PS4. The gap will always be huge.

  • Virdin Barzey

    This guy needs to stop it already. I’m getting both systems but the more this guys gets into discussions with idiot fanboys, the more he and the XBOne looks worse. Why is he talking about stuff he has no idea about? He maybe trying to be helpful but he is doing the exact opposite for me as a gamer. Who is running this company?…Ohh, they fired that guy. Guess it all makes sense now.

    This whole launch for XB1 is a complete and utter disaster. I would be shock if by the end of the year if the console war is even close. This may go down as one of the epic fail by a company. Unlike these idiotic fanboys, I’m mad because I want competition so that we can have better exclusive games. Right now its not looking like it will be a slaughter.

    I expect that price of the XBOne to drop really quickly…..I may wait on this console to see how it does. Might be able to pick one up $100 cheaper by time TitanFall comes around if this goes the way I think.

  • dirkradke

    People talk about higher resolutions and 60 frames per second as the end all and be all of video games. For some games a high resolution and 60fps makes sense. For other games it doesn’t matter. If the game looks good and plays smoothly it really doesn’t matter if the resolution or frame rate is high.

  • Censure

    “If even someone like Microsoft’s Director of Product Planning doesn’t know that kind of sensitive data, maybe we should start considering the information we receive from much less official sources with a bit of a grain of salt.”

    Or maybe you should take what Microsoft’s Director of Product Planning says in defense of his company’s console with a grain of salt. IJS. I think there’s definitely some truth to what he’s saying, but I don’t believe it’s the whole truth. The resolution of a game doesn’t strike me as a trade secret publishers/developers are going to be guarding from Microsoft. In fact, I can’t see how that information is limited to this one secluded team working with 3rd parties.

  • cHaOZ_ZoNE

    720p games and 30fps as a target? What is this? 2004? Even minecraft feels really bad with 30fps cap and they want to make AAA games based on 30fps target? woot!

  • jacksjus

    What he said about not knowing things makes perfect sense; and even if he’s heard rumors he can’t say what he was told. I’m surprised he’s come out asking about it.

  • Zachary Myers

    I can’t see how people are going to see a difference between 900p and 1080p when the consoles are released. In addition, both consoles will be good in regards to graphical prowess anyway.

    If someone really, REALLY wants to see a difference in power, then compare the consoles to the PC.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    Interesting indeed. Shocking in fact.

  • Andrew

    What about the Xbox One versions of Assassin’s Creed 4 .

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      Hello, “Andrew”.

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