Platforms, PS4, Rumors, Xbox One

Industry Insider: “Xbox One Will be Behind The Whole Generation, and Not by a Small Trivial Margin”

by on January 26, 2014 10:41 PM 246

Industry insider Ahsan Rasheed, also known on NeoGAF and Twitter as Thuway mentioned something he was told “down the grapevine” by his sources, explaining that Xbox One might end up remaining behind the PS4 for the whole generation:

Xbox One will be behind all generation, and not by some small trivial margin. It will be enough to show up distinctly in exclusives.

He continued by saying that while Microsoft’s new console has some improvements incoming, the same will happen to its rival.

The PS4 has more left in the tank that will start showing up going forward. It was designed with more forward thinking hardware choices.

According to Rasheed, a Call of Duty: Ghosts coder also told him that Infinity Ward asked Microsoft to use an off-limits portion of the Xbox One GPU (allegedly amounting to 8% of the whole power of the graphical hardware of the console, and the the use of which should be granted to developers soon) but Microsoft refused.

He mentioned that developers are thankful for what many are now calling “resolution gate.” as as it pushed Microsoft to unlock more resources, and while it won’t bring parity between the hardware juice provided by the two consoles, every little bit helps.

As a funny side note, Rasheed mentioned that he received the following message on NeoGAF after revealing the details quoted above: “Don’t you dare get people’s hopes up. Xbox One will always be behind and the gap will widen.” The identity of the sender hasn’t been revealed.

As usual, with everything that comes from insiders like Rasheed, we should take this with a grain of salt and consider it just a rumor. That said, he demonstrated many times to have solid industry contacts, and his predictions normally match up well with what actually happens.

We’ll have to stand by and see if the prophecy will come true in the next few years, since the “next gen” has just begun. Saying that the Xbox One will be behind for the whole generation might definitely be premature.

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  • Averix

    Kill Kinect while there’s still time Microsoft. Please.

    • Antonio C. R. Murray

      “Kill Kinect” ain’t gonna do nothing. MS can lower the price with the Kinect and being a company worth at over $200 Billion, it won’t be a hit, just an annoyance at the top like i.e. the price cut of the Surface.

      The fact is that Xbox never had a chance. PlayStation (and Nintendo) are the only ones that matter overall, meaning globally. This is why for the past two generations (6th and 7th) MS has ended up behind. PS4 is available in a lot more countries, lower cost yet more powerful, and hasn’t even launched in Japan yet and when it does, you’ll really see the difference in software diversity.

    • Guest

      “Kill Kinect” ain’t gonna do nothing. MS can lower the price with the Kinect and being a company worth at over $200 Billion, it won’t be a hit, just an annoyance at the top like i.e. the price cut of the Surface.

      The fact is that Xbox never had a chance. PlayStation (and Nintendo) are the only ones that matter overall, meaning globally. Keep in mind that MS is bout that, as recall back at E3 2009 when they stated that they’d outsell PS3 globally (and didn’t). This is why for the past two generations (6th and 7th) MS has ended up behind.

      PS4, unlike XBO, is legit ais available in a lot more countries, lower cost yet more powerful, and hasn’t even launched in Japan yet and when it does, you’ll really see the difference in software diversity.

      • OC Guy

        X1 has sold amazingly well and as you mentioned isn’t even available in half the territories that PS4 is in. Be a fan boy all you want, but you can’t change the fact X1 is doing just fine and getting better.

        • Terramax

          I agree. It may not be as successful as the PS4, but that doesn’t mean it’ll bomb, and that doesn’t mean it won’t make a profit or won’t have some awesome games for it. 3.9 million units sold in the space of a few months is very respectable (almost as many units as the Wii U has sold with about a year’s head-start), and Microsoft has the connections to get some good exclusives in the future. Just because Microsoft aren’t in bed with Japanese game companies (which are becoming increasingly less important with every year) doesn’t mean they’ll lag globally.

          • Mikesims Sims

            3.9 shipped to retailers. by end of 2014 PS4 will be far ahead globally

          • Terramax

            So what? That’s no indication that the console won’t still be a success, nor does it mean MS will be in financial trouble, and of course doesn’t mean there won’t be some awesome games for the system you can’t get anywhere else.

          • Mikesims Sims

            MS won’t be in financial trouble over xbox, but they may sell off the division. So far it seems to be doing poorly this year.

          • JinOntario

            Agreed. People talk about losses like they are acceptable for even profitable companies. Although some have “loss leaders,” it’s not like loss is ever considered preferable to making profit – shareholders generally want more, not less.

          • Redinferno124

            People like to put on tinfoil hats

          • sampson3121

            why would a company make an exclusive for a system that’s being out sold almost 3 to 1?

          • Guest

            Less countries. Less powerful. Much much less Japanese support. More expensive. Yet they won’t “lag globally” because for some reason its believe America (U.S. vs them) is the one that will hold that? That Xbox math.

            I always love how since…oh about 13 years…Xbots downplay Japan (as well as the majority of Western media) due to its abysmal failure. Nintendo and Sony are successful here while Apple (rated overall #1 Nikkei Brand Japan 2013) and Google are successful there so what’s the problem?

            MS did try…by attempting to buy Japan outright with Final Fantasy XIII so that they would no longer “ignore 360″. Only resulted in it being ignored even more than the first Xbox with Square-Enix included.

          • Terramax

            I’ll repeat what I’ve said before. Just because they have less of a market, with an inferior console, doesn’t mean they can’t make a profit, can’t find an angle to tap and corner certain sections of the market, and that there won’t be some great exclusives for the machine.

            You can natter on about Japanese games this, Sony more powerful that, but lets face it, you know that Microsoft is capable of making the X1 successful in its own way, even if it’s not in the conventional sense of other console, nor does it make the games you want to play.

            If you like Japanese games, and if they’re important to you, good on ya dude, go play your Final Fantasy games. But there are plenty of people out there who don’t care much for Japanese games, and are more interested in Halo, Gears of War, Fifa, Maddan, and everything in between. You may not like it. But that’s a fact. Just like there are plenty of other audiences out there, like the iOS audience.

            Sure, if MS ignore Japanese game companies, that’s a corner of the market they’re neglecting and it’ll cost them some success. But my point is, in this day and age, I’d argue having strong connections with Japanese companies isn’t half as important as it was a decade ago.

            All of the biggest Japanese games are no longer the big hits they used to be. RE, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, heck, even Nintendo’s franchises arguably aren’t. They’re certainly not the heavy weights that GTA, Assassin’s Creed, and CoD is from what I can see.
            The fact that Square Enix relied on Eidos’ catalog of Western games to stay afloat is a testament as to how Japanese games are becoming increasingly irrelevant in the worldwide market.

            And before you think otherwise, this is coming from someone who owns a Sony console, likes Japanese games, and lives in Japan. I’m not a Microsoft fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. I’m just pointing out that there are plenty of different ways of making money other than the conventional ‘make bigger, more expensive games to make the most money’.

            MS know getting a hold of the Japanese market is fighting a pointless
            losing battle. Therefore it makes more sense for them to focus on their
            strengths – western developers, western games, and western audiences,
            rather than their weakness. And if they play their cards right, they could make it work for them.

            In a nutshell; stop your silly biased opinions and look at the bigger picture.

          • Guest

            Less countries. Less powerful. Much much less Japanese support. More expensive. Yet they won’t “lag globally” because for some reason its believed America (U.S. vs them) is the one that will hold that? That Xbox math.

            I always love how since…oh about 13 years…Xbots downplay Japan (as well as the majority of Western media) due to its abysmal failure. Nintendo and Sony are successful here while Apple (rated overall #1 Nikkei Brand Japan 2013) and Google are successful there so what’s the problem?

            MS did try…by attempting to buy Japan outright with Final Fantasy XIII so that they would no longer “ignore 360″. Only resulted in it being ignored even more than the first Xbox with Square-Enix included.

          • Guest

            Less countries. Less powerful. Much much less Japanese support. More expensive. Yet they won’t “lag globally” because for some reason its believe America (U.S. vs them, American exceptionalism ) is the one that will hold that? That Xbox math.

            I always love how since…oh about 13 years…Xbots downplay Japan (as well as the majority of Western media) due to its abysmal failure. Nintendo and Sony are successful here while Apple (rated overall #1 Nikkei Brand Japan 2013) and Google are successful there so what’s the problem?

            MS did try…by attempting to buy Japan outright with Final Fantasy XIII so that they would no longer “ignore 360″. Only resulted in it being ignored even more than the first Xbox with Square-Enix included.

          • Michael Norris

            That 3.9million figure MS gave was systems shipped to retail not sold.

          • PCS4-Box U

            “Just because Microsoft aren’t in bed with Japanese game companies”
            You mean like Capcom who made Dead Rising 3 an X1 exclusive?

          • Terramax

            So they make one exclusive for the Xbox one, and that makes Capcom and Microsoft the best of friends? Get real.

          • sampson3121

            xbox1 being out sold almost 3 to 1. i wouldn’t get use to the idea that x1 will have many more exclusives in the future.

        • Mikesims Sims

          Even Wii U sold well its first 7 weeks. It’s getting much worse. Xbox will sell poorly in countries it hasn’t launched yet.

        • Antonio C. R. Murray

          “isn’t even available in half the territories that PS4 is in” That ain’t Sony’s problem.

          Look out your own window first to realize that Xbox One is sitting at shelves across the United States while the PS4 hype is still real and sold out regularly everywhere.

          • Nintendosonyfan

            Lol always the same argument. A little defensive are ya? Truth hurts lol. Sony deliberately withholds consoles to cause hype that it’s always sold out, they could easily make enuff but no, they chose not to trying to make themselves look good. Xbox ones on the shelf cuz Microsoft actually cares and makes enuff without trying to do some childish PR scam about always being sold out lol. Well it works cuz idiots like u jump right in and believe it, mindless teen fanboys haha. Glad I sold my ps3.5 oops ps4 as it only collected dust, can only have it crash and break so many times before u have enuff. Lol be moved! Hah good slogan lol. Ok begone now kid, u have just been FACED.

          • Redinferno124

            Referring to PS4 and PS3.5 doesn’t make you a hipster, just like calling Xbox Xbone.

            If you love your Xbox, STFU and play, but don’t pull crap out from your ass just so you can feel validated you made the right purchase.

            Buy what you want, and play what you want. Stop acting like some middle school student who believes he knows more than the teachers do. Fans like you are the reason gamer culture is always shown in a negative light, thanks.

          • Jeremy

            This dude posts this same exact comment every day….SMH.

          • zerog

            Seriously? You’re obviously the kid who has no idea what he’s talking about. The fact is ps4 is sold out while x1 remains on shelves not because of supply but because x1 isn’t selling as good. Read the reports before making yourself look stupid. Ps4 shipped 4.2 million units and sold 4.2 million, x1 shipped 3.9 million but only sold 3 million. Those are facts that may be hard for you to swallow but facts no the less.

        • Michael Norris

          You also forget Sony can’t make enough Ps4′s to keep all of those territories in stock.Sony is a WW brand more so then MS which really caters to the US.

        • datdude

          Talk about delusional. The ps4 is sold out while xbones sit on shelves across the globe. Nuff said.

        • Elias Georgiou

          well said!!! Some misinformation here and there from MS haters.

        • Clate

          I see Xbox Ones in my WalMart all the time, try finding a PS4 sitting on the shelf

          • sampson3121

            it’s really hard. i called future shop, and they said they get maybe 15 ps4′s and in a few hrs they’re sold. x1 sitting on the shelves .

          • Clate

            Sony is getting close to catching the demand now, by mid April I think you will be able to find them fairly easily

        • Matthew Bryant

          No, Xbox One is selling well. The PS4 is selling amazingly well. If you’re definition of amazingly well is their direct competitor selling 40% more hardware, then sure. Whatever you gotta tell yourself. The reality is demand for the PS4 is still incredibly high. The same is not true of the Xbox One.

          There’s a LOT of Xbox Ones sitting on shelves, even though the Xbox One has likely sold less in every country in the world than the PS4. Not to mention the Wii U sold well at launch too. I’m not saying the Xbox One will go the way of the Wii U, but don’t assume strong sales at launch mean a promising future. The PS4 is still selling out as fast as it can be manufactured. That’s telling. We’ll see what happens, but the PS4 has far more advantages than the Xbox One right now and it’s cheaper.

      • Clate

        Until they “Kill Kinect” I will not purchase one and I probably will buy one if they do (a few years from now) so I would call it a good strategy atleast to get me to buy one. I personally think the average gamer would love for them to “Kill Kinect” and make the system 350$. I guess I do not matter as far as Xbox goes as it will be forever before I get one and when I do I will likely buy everything I get for it used. I will stick with my PS4, PS3, PSVita, and gaming PC for now lol

        • PCS4-Box U

          Same here, i’ll buy one inevitably but it’ll be for under 400.00, be a slim model and won’t include Kinect. The game hoarder inside me won’t let me “skip”a console no matter how bad i don’t want it. PC, PS4, PSV, 3DS, Wii U until the aforementioned are met (i have PS3/360(s) too but they’ve been boxed and since retired since i got my PS4).

    • islan

      And that time has passed … *looks at watch* … nnnnnnnow!

    • Demetre HG

      Screw yourself and never

  • Michael Clanton

    xbox on paper was always behind… X1 call of duty ran fine, ps4 call of duty def had its problems. I have never seen so many stupif comments in the first months of a console launch.

    • James Cluckey

      X1′s Ghosts was not at the same level graphically. I never had an issue with it on PS4. I think those issues were overblown.

    • Michael Cardwell

      COD IS GARBAGE WHO CARES. IF YA DO YOUR JUST A DRONE WHO BUYS THE SAME REHASHED TRASH! ONLY IDIOTS BUY THIS GAME EVERY YEAR! Lol

      • Woohoo!!

        Doesn’t matter if the game is any good, this is a technical comparison of the graphical performance.

        • bowserslovechild

          He’s a proven M$oft fanboy, pay no heed.

    • Steven Solidarios

      Take your xbox 3 selfies somewhere else please.

    • Zohak Diaz

      Yo, stop hoggin all the crack, my turn, yo.. Peace.

    • Mikesims Sims

      ps4 cod had no problems, are you nuts? lol

  • Nintendosonyfan

    Lol Xbox one owners bought the console knowing it was less powerful, ya know what they still bought it’s these articles are riduclously stupid and just aimed at fanboys to rile hem up and get hits to the website. I sold my supposedly superior ps4 and couldn’t be happier with my xbox one. Ps4 can have their supposedly powerful box, I’m glad not to be a part of it anymore.

    • Zohak Diaz

      Then shut up.

      • Goodgrief

        Ignore him. He is a passive liar. he keeps posting to different sites on different articles. Some articles he says he sold his ps4 and other articles he says he hates his ps4 because it keeps breaking, has no games and he’s getting tired of waiting. All in the same day. He’s just trolling. Apparently it’s the only way he can get a rise.

    • Ritsujun

      Not hard enough, Nintenduck.

      • Woohoo!!

        Nintenduck? Did you make that one up yourself in hopes that it would catch on? Never going to happen…

        edit: Oh wait, you’re the Xkeleton guy. Dude! You should leave the making up of names to someone with more wit. Yours are just aweful

        • Ritsujun

          “Awful”
          Stop skipping your kindergarten classes to play Xbone720p, kid.

          • Sony Ponie

            Got me there, I always did get that one confused. Nobody’s perfect though, but I would wager that overall, my spelling & grammar are much better than yours. I’m published, are you?

            Also, I think the Xbox One is crap, I’m a Sony fan (I like Nintendo too) , I just think that your lame name calling is beyond pathetic. But I’d say that about you no matter which console you prefer.

            :D

          • MARKSMAN716

            Says the guy with the name Sony Ponie, interesting lol

          • Sony Ponie

            it’s meant to be ironic. I forget where I am though, can’t expect many of the knuckle draggers who come to this site to pick up on subtle humor….

            But you’re right, Sony Ponie is no better than Nintenduck or Xkeleton. Mine is just there to poke fun at the people who have called me that, as if it were some scathing insult

    • Ω GUNTZ

      I have the perfect cure for you and it begins with this

      http://i.imgur.com/usGpHpz.gif

    • Mikesims Sims

      must be something wrong with this kid

    • Michael Norris

      You made someone happy by selling it to them.Have fun playing games that run and look like total ass.Lackluster first party support and Kinect shoved so far up your rear you can taste it.MS can keep that horrid monstrosity of a console.

    • 3rdworldgamer

      damn, look at the down votes

  • Michael Cardwell

    The identity of the sender was SONY PONY. LOL

    • James Cluckey

      Wow, just watching these down votes add up.

      • Matt Dickinson

        The editor (Mod) here adds downvotes at will – there are never as many upvotes

        • bigshynepo

          I like this site but if that’s true, that is ridiculous and stupid. Moderators are supposed to prevent childishness.

          Online discussion sure brings out the worst in people. But I did laugh when I saw the upvotes to downvotes ratio. :)

      • Michael Cardwell

        Loving these down votes.

    • Michael Cardwell

      I love it. Lol

    • Sony Ponie

      I had nothing to do with it

    • Mikesims Sims

      another crazy person

  • Nick TwinkleToes Setzer

    This month will further be referred to as “inustry insider/anonymous/rumor news month.” Not saying any of it is untrue, but lets just see what happens instead of believing every rumor (a VERY large portion of which have been wrong, just people take the attention off of it when that is the case) whether toward ps4 or xb1 or wii u, lets just take this all as it happens and actually focus on enjoying the games (and the respective consoles) as it all comes.

    • http://www.gamingblend.com/ William Usher

      Hmm, just about all the Xbone rumors have been true.

      • Nick TwinkleToes Setzer

        More like you blindy push aside all the wrong i fo and assume educated guesses = insider info, that said thuwatly is well informed but still wrong more often than right, even ask him, he is banned from neogaf almost every other week. Really i could have about a 8/10 chance of guessing news about xb1 at thsi point and be right. That said i have enjoyed my xb1 way more than my roomate has his ps4. (he even bought an xb1 because he was so bored) so my point is rumors, true or not, don’t really mean much… other than the obvious, ps4 IS more powerful.

        • XDrone (is the new name)-lol

          Lol the reason what you have a 8/10 chance of guessing xbone news is that the system is a gimp and is just a little better then the wiiU which is not saying much. U say that ur buddy was bored with the ps4? Rly what does bone have, 4 hour campaign rsye, or 20 fps dead rising, or the microtransaction forza??? Cuz it that’s ur type of games then so be it. Also, ps4 can do voice recognition (also the ps4 has easier command prompts) , face recognition, and can surf the internet 4 times faster. So how does the xbone have better advancements?? Also for a company trying to say that their system is about tv, tv, tv, sports, call of duty, sports, then how does ur system not even have a baseball game???? Lol so bad at that one. Also fever pitch or whatever game their r suppose to be bringing back that’s just in development, lol give me a break before you even say anything about that……. lol try harder next time

        • Mikesims Sims

          thuway and mortimer are almost always right, you’re making things up including your “roommate”. crazy person

      • John Mumpitz

        No. Most of them were false.

        • Gariya

          Dat denial.

        • Redinferno124

          Some were false. Many came true, though with a a few differences.

  • tubers

    Do most Boners care? Aren’t they just happy getting sub FHD multi-plats and their MS shooter exclusives, snapping and doing P90X in front of a cam?

    I think barely anything would go against the X1 platform even if they sold 1/3 LTD of the PS4. Devs will still find it a profitable market.

    Then again, closer competitive performance of the two might be better for several things.

    • Nick TwinkleToes Setzer

      Which company was it that had an exclusive shooter release at launch?? And wasn’t it supposedly the greatest game ever?? Guess it’s just a one way street right?

      • Bankai

        Maybe so, but the PlayStation brand isn’t nearly as heavily associated with shooters as the Xbox is. That’s the point he was trying to make.

  • Redinferno124

    Microsoft wont be catching a break anytime soon will they? Even if this turns out to be total BS, one thing I’ve learned over the course of the year is despite Neogaff’s reputation, when they blow up a story the way they tend to do, it’s usually worth looking into a bit closer.

    There must be some truth to this as we been hearing all this crap about developer back chatter for some time since even before launch, yet no one can ever say what.

    Obviously MS will be fine with X1, but there’s clearly something going on behind the scenes that’s making them constantly crap their pants for them to constantly come out and make excuse after excuse for why things are the way they are.

    Before fanboys jump on this post HEAR ME FIRST. Sony isn’t MS biggest threat right now, not even close. I think MS was onto something with all the TV stuff, but combining with a games system feels like an idea that while it looks good on paper, doesn’t function as well in practice. This can and probably will change as the generation continues with both consoles being constantly optimized, but the signs are emerging little by little that some of the design decisions the Xbox engineers made aren’t quite panning out the way they’d planned.

    I think people need to step back and understand that we have two systems that while very similar, are marketed to two very different markets: PS4 for those mainly want to play games with the ability to watch Netfix as a distant second, and the Xbox One for those who may not care much for gaming, but want to have all their media controlled from one place.

    It’s not really that one is better than the other, it’s that both systems are marketed to two different consumers groups with some overlapping( the ability to play games)

    • Matt Dickinson
      • Redinferno124

        Hey I’m a PS Boy to the end but…..PS vita TV? Really??? Who thought that was gonna sell like hotcakes and start a revolution lol.

        Sony made it as just another product to make a profit on, even if it flopped. They’ll keep doing that until they get a hit.

        This is just NeoGaff being NeoGaff

    • Terramax

      Great post, and I think you nailed it. MS clearly had ideas to sell the X1 as more than just a games machine. It’s been manufactured in a way to make it a multi-purpose entertainment machine. They just haven’t managed to corner the market(s) they’re targeting, likely due to not very good PR and advertisement. But there’s still a number of years ahead for the system, and anything can happen. They could very well find their feet in a year or two.

      • Kowa97

        I think the problem is that they are a number of years behind with XBO. Don’t get me wrong, not as bad as Nintendo, but it is behind in the respect that the hardware is lagging behind thee PS4. But more than that, with all the streaming solutions out there TV is becoming less and less revealent. With resolutiongate and now the Tomb Raider FPS issue, it is becoming clear M$ will start getting left behind. Hence Penillo’s damage control. And I like how he says let the exclusive games be the deciding factor. Because historically, PS has dominated M$ on that front.

    • Michael Norris

      Don’t bet against Thuway, his insider connects are top notch.

      • Redinferno124

        I’m not betting against him at all. However, there are many in the comments who hate when he reports news like this apparently.

    • PCS4-Box U

      Microsofts real shame is that they just can’t seem to find where to fit quality products into their business model. They force it where it doesn’t fit like a kid frustratingly trying to jam a square block into a hole cut for a cylinder. Nobody in gaming wants Kinect there, however, it could be very interesting when made open-source and allow 3rd parties to include “Kinect compatible” hardware/software. Let others create the innovation and do the work for you Microsoft, think Oculus Rift + Kinect. That snap feature would be really fricken sweet on PC, why isn’t this in Windows?? Why doesn’t smartglass work with Windows as a “controller” for my PC? Why isn’t there a focus on PC gaming at Microsoft? Allow my Xbox to play nice with my PC games and use your cloud technology to follow behind Sony with game streaming, and it should be possible across every platform you can reach – tv, smartglass, PC, etc.
      Anyway, that’s where I wish Microsoft would go… all the parts are there but i get the sense they just don’t know how to put it together.

  • Imperial General Zimmerman

    Lets see Penello Damage control

    • Redinferno124

      He already did I thought? the whole small performance boost thing wasn’t him?

  • Ritsujun

    Poor Xkeletons… =(((

    • Woohoo!!

      Xkeletons? That’s just bad, dude..

    • Demetre HG

      Dumbass

      • bowserslovechild

        Fanboy.

  • Redinferno124

    Be pissed at MS not the devs. Its not their fault if MS made some odd design choices with X1.

    This is just like how PS3 was last gen. Super powerful on paper and in theory, but in reality unless you were Naughty Dog, it was an unforgiving bitch to work with and Sony paid royally for it, too. MS is simply eating humble pie the same way Sony had to back in 2007 after coming off a successful PS2 run. History repeats, I’m shocked :P

    • PixelOmen

      The difference now is that the more powerful hardware is the one that’s easier to work with. It’s not really the same at all.

      • Redinferno124

        I was referring to how last gen, the 360 dominated the PS3 at least until fairly recently and how MS is acting the same way Sony did coming off the success of the PS2.

        MS let it’s ego get the better of them and now they need to rethink their strategy with X1 just as Sony had to with the PS3. I was trying to link how Sony’s idea with the Cell processor didn’t work as well in practice as it did on paper to MS vision to have a cable box double as a gaming machine. Cool idea, sloppy execution.

  • Ω GUNTZ
    • XDrone (is the new name)-lol

      Lol that was a good “one” did u like what I did with the “one”?? Lol

  • Joseph Lan

    “Saying that the Xbox One will be behind for the whole generation might definitely be premature.”

    How is it “premature” when it’s a proven fact that the Xbox One has weaker hardware than the PS4? This power differential isn’t just going to magically disappear because of some clever engineers or magical optimization. Weaker hardware is weaker hardware, especially when the two use essentially the same architecture (and are thus directly comparable).

    Xbone owners are just going to have to start getting used to the fact that pretty much every single multiplatform game, from now to eternity, will be graphically inferior on their system.

    • Woohoo!!

      “Unless MS moneyhats developers to limit themselves to the lowest common denominator.”

      That’s what they did last gen

      • Redinferno124

        It seems like that isn’t the case at them moment. If the system has the capability, why not utilize it? Both versions of Multiplatform titles will look and play great regardless, but one will play better than the other, it is what it is. Last Gen it was 360>PS3 now PS4>X1

      • Antonio C. R. Murray

        Why the Vote Downs? No facts allowed here? Oh wait. What’s this? -

        “Should content not be shipped simultaneously with competing platforms in all regions where the content is available, or should the content and features available on the Xbox 360 not be in parity with versions on competing platforms, then Microsoft reserves the right to not allow that content to be published for Xbox 360 or released on Xbox Live marketplace.”

        Short ver. If you plan on releasing a game that’ll actually take advantage of that Blu-ray or Cell, you won’t see it on Xbox.

    • Flyte_79

      They can’t get away with money hatting now, early games ran parity because publishers figured ms expected it but they all broke ranks early on. That’s why ac4 and cod ghosts got the 1080p patches, because ubi and activivision realised everyone else was just putting out superior ps4 versions. If ms money hat now the whole community will know and will crucify the developer. No amount of money will cover that loss of reputation that is so important in modern gaming.

      • Michael Norris

        Yea money hatting won’t work here.

      • bowserslovechild

        Well said.

    • HalfBlackCanuck

      Your comments have nothing to do with what you quoted. Being more powerful, in the home console and handheld market, has never amounted to anything. Sony caught up last generation more due to exclusives than horsepower. Even the tablet/phone market is asinine in that they keep chucking more power at devices that still see the highest sales in low-end products like Candy Crush and Angry Birds. People just like to play games they like to play and if, by some chance, being pushed up against the wall makes MS pump out quality exclusives or if the whole 3 OS thing works out, or if they someone manage to make The Cloud a workable thing, then there is a chance they will regain market.
      This early into PS3 life was fairing no better, remember. The internet is the loudest, but hardly represents the greater population.

  • Anders

    I just hope that the Microsoft parity clauses are dead.

    • Redinferno124

      I don’t think that rule is going to work twice if situations like Tomb Raider DE will be the norm.

    • bowserslovechild

      They will be now IMO.

  • Dennis Crosby

    I think it’s funny when he says the Xbox one is going to be behold this whole generation when all three console are behind technically PC so does it really matter?

    • Redinferno124

      Behind :)

    • Mikesims Sims

      yes it matters, dumb and crazy

  • Dennis Crosby

    just want to remind you guys that having the most power doesn’t when console wars hell when has the most powerful console won a generation?

    • Redinferno124

      It isn’t about which systems is more powerful at them moment. According to numerous devs, one system is easier to develop games on than the other right now. Honestly that’s a much bigger problem in the long run.

    • http://google.com/+DeAnoJackson DeAno Jackson

      It’s true that the most powerful console has never won the generation, but that’s also because until this generation the most powerful console was also the most expensive console. That isn’t the case currently.

  • John Mumpitz

    Dear Thuway, how much did Sony pay You for your bullshit LIES? HE WAS BANNED FROM sonyGAF! Oh, and xbox one sells very well.

    • Ω GUNTZ
    • Gariya

      Don’t be mad for Dudebrobox getting all the bad news. It’s payback for
      what they did to console gaming. Introducing paid online and being a
      prominent force for killing diversity in console gaming library in place
      of AAA dudebro crap.

      • John Mumpitz

        Oh no! You sick anime gamers are the WORST! Just GTFO and continue playing your SICK japanese hentai games. Seriously, so disgusting. And please stop talking idiotic BULLSHIT.

        • Gariya

          Looks like I hit a nerve. Take it easy, Dudebro. Chill and go to your frat party to circlejerk with your bros while being watched by Kinect.

          :^)

        • Ω GUNTZ
        • Redinferno124

          Where the hell did you pull hentai out from of his comment? These replies you guys post are getting stranger creepier.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Mental illness is a strange thing.

    • Mikesims Sims

      Time for your meds. lol

  • godlike01

    LOL this is the newest retarded article attacking xbox one.. guess the people behind this site are poor asians who cant even conceive that real “graphic” gamers play on PC.. we dont need our XBOXs to play the highest graphics.. PC does this..and beats ALL consoles at doing it.. damn these paupers..must suck being so desperately poor that u have 2 lower your standards to only the PS3.5 then spend countless hours justifying your purchase by constantly writing hate articles on the xbox one..shame

    • Redinferno124

      Assassins? What are you 10? be realistic.

    • Mikesims Sims

      you’re dumb and either malicious or crazy, choose one

    • Redinferno124

      What does being Asian have to do with this?

  • Redinferno124

    Christ you fanboys are unbelievably hilarious. If you own an Xbox and love it as much as many of you claim, STFU and play instead of responding to ever article that doesn’t agree with you beliefs. Likewise, People with PS4′s need to quite being jackasses to everyone who has a different system than them. PS fans also need to stop patronizing Xbox fans because all that ever happens is as soon as some trivial “negative” news gets reported about the PS4, the Xbox fans pounce on the comments section and unload snark comments followed by numerous occasionally funny but often pointless GIFs, which then leads to the PS fans striking back. Put the shoe on the other foot and you have the same result every time. This is a vicious cycle that will never end. Why continue it?

    Every one of you in the comments right now who are arguing your platforms superiority over another are among the largest collection of pathetic losers on earth and regardless of which system comes out on top in this make believe war, you are the losers, not MS, Nintendo or Sony.

    • Mikesims Sims

      u mad? lol

      • Redinferno124

        Mad about what exactly? Just calling people on their BS when I see it.

        • Guest

          I’ve never seen it as bad as it’s gotten recently, Makes me regret getting a PS4.

          I feel too old for this stuff

          • Redinferno124

            Don’t regret it. Games are coming out for both systems as well as PS3. Just remember that these people aren’t really gamers, hell I’m not sure if you could call them human the way some act out.

            Enjoy what you buy and play, that’s the way it should be.

  • bowserslovechild

    Well, that escalated quickly.

  • RealityCheck2013

    I hope so :D I wish MS would just leave the Console gaming business for good. Because that would be the best thing for gamers. They are a Cancer :-/

    • Giuseppe Nelva

      That is really not true. Removing a relevant competition factor from the industry would probably be bad for gamers. Less competition = less drive for innovation and for better service. It also normally means higher prices.

      • Redinferno124

        Yet people constantly ignore this fact

  • Marquis Regalia

    As much as I’m getting a Ps4 down the line I can’t quite agree to the statement that MS / XBO will be behind and not by a trivial margin, MS has put quite the investment on this, I’m pretty sure they wont just go down without swinging, they’ll do whatever it takes when it comes down to it. Heck they went back on the foundation of their systems (DRM etc.) just to put up a fight and which they did. And they will continue to do so they won’t let their “gem” just get beat like that. With that being said everyone is entitled to their opinion and take this industry insiders’ statement as such. Reason why I want XBO to not fall behind? So Sony wont slack off and keep putting better stuff out :D

    • Mikesims Sims

      hardware can’t change at this point, MS can’t do anything

      • Redinferno124

        Not with Hardware, but with software. But fans who are hoping for a new hardware revision should stop and reconsider.

  • ragingmerifes

    That’s really a bad thing. Although they can just moneyhat some companies to make good exclusives like in the 360 era, and it will still be a good console to have.

    Also, before and after anyone says that “PC will still be the best and master race stuff”, it needs to be noted that even though the architecture of the PS4 is close to a PC, some developers prefer a good easily-developable console to a PC. PS4 being powerful, unexpensive, easy to make games for and popular is a combination that will go well in Japan, and consequently, in the rest of the world.

  • OC Guy

    I could care less if X1 isn’t as powerful as the PS4… Right now it has the better games and looks like it will have the better games in the future. For me, it is about the games… The fan boys can have the faster ram and a few more particle effects. Good for them!

    • Mikesims Sims

      better = opinion. twice the framerate/res is a few particle effects. lol

      • HalfBlackCanuck

        Exactly. But that’s also why OC Guy is right.
        This is the SNES/Genesis days all over again. One system has the clear technical advantage but both will have great games. I always had the SNES but felt the Genesis had some amazing exclusives that I had to miss out on (and Aladdin on Genesis>SNES version).
        As a community we need to stop feeding into attacking each other’s gaming preference and treating those not on our side of the fence as less intelligent.

        • Mikesims Sims

          Not a valid comparison lol

    • kye huelin

      Its either ‘I couldn’t care less’ or ‘nobody could care less’.

      Saying you could care less means you care a bit. Think about it.

    • Redinferno124

      “better”

  • Bankai

    People can bring up Sony’s financial troubles all they want, but the fact remains that Sony is Microsoft’s biggest hurdle. When they release the Xbone slim, it needs to be Kinect-less and devoid of any TV integration, as those take away from the systems capabilities.

    • Demetre HG

      FFS seriously STFU with Phonies useless upgraded ps3 if that and no games because why Sony is going broke and can’t secure anything lmfao bahahahaha

      • Redinferno124

        Someones really touchy today.

        • bowserslovechild

          And ver, VERY butt-hurt.

      • You are flat out wrong

        Hey Demetre, looking forward to waiting three years for Gears of Snore 4?

  • Terramax

    To be fair, I’ve usually bought the console which were the least successful, and they ended up having my favourite selection of games. The Saturn, Dreamcast, Gamecube, and PS Vita. You tend to find that the less successful console have some real standout exclusives. The Wii U is the exception to this rule, of course.

    • Averix

      Every console has their great games. Dreamcast and Saturn both had some amazing titles. The systems were just marketed terribly.

  • http://ninsci.weebly.com/ Deeboy

    It’s gonna stay behind? What does that mean? Doe’s it mean if they manage to start making game’s hit 1080p 60fps that the PlayStation will go beyond that. No that would just make it the standard for both consoles. Ps4 is already maxing out most games at 1080p and 60fps I don’t see it improving much over that.

    • Mikesims Sims

      PS4 has better gpgpu, unified memory, etc. to take advantage of in the coming years

      • http://ninsci.weebly.com/ Deeboy

        I agree that will keep it as the fastest gpu this Gen opposed to the Xbox gpu. That won’t make the games look any better than 1080p@60fps is my point.

        • Mikesims Sims

          GPGPU = better physics and effects, like Resogun’s voxels and Infamous’ smoke particles.

          • http://ninsci.weebly.com/ Deeboy

            No. More memory equals better physics and particle effects. That’s why on both platforms there’s a definitive edition to games like tomb raider on both platforms. The only difference is the xbox can’t keep with the speed of PlayStations’ gpu. If that were cut closer in margin games will be less distinguished. 8gs is 8gs of memory rather its slow or fast.

          • Mikesims Sims
          • http://ninsci.weebly.com/ Deeboy

            Great read bro. Not taking any sides but the same will be utilized for the xbox esram. Since it can read and write simultaneously they both are capable of the same effects. The PlayStation gpu is just faster at doing them. Having unified ram just makes it easier to accomplish. Mark Cerny is a genius and deserves much accolades for his accomplishments with the ps4. In the end the same standard applies for both platforms. The race to maintain 1080p@60fps. They have the same plans Sony was just way more faster at achieving this realization.

  • http://www.youtube.com/redflamefox Red Flame Fox

    The only place where this console has chances is here in Italy, where some people is full of money and don’t care getting informed before buying something, they just think “is the most expensive… so of course is the best one” and then they buy it.

  • Ana Helušić

    PS4 wins

  • dirkradke

    Yea and Mac and/or Linux is going to win the PC wars with open source or a better operating system – blah, blah, blah. Predicting a Microsoft defeat 3 months into the current generation makes this person sound like an idiot no matter how knowledgeable or smart they may be.

    • chitown

      It’s not premature when the weakness is tied to underpowered hardware, and the hardware is a known constant that is not going to change.

      • dirkradke

        I look at the entire ecosystem of possibilities for problems and the least of Microsoft’s problems is the limitation of it’s XB1 hardware compared to the PS4. However, predicting victory or failure 3 months after based on that 1 fact makes someone sound like an idiot no matter how smart they may be.

  • TristanPR77

    The xbone has been behind since E3 and it has maintained that position. Every poll made put the PS4 in front and PS4 is also in front with hardware power, price, steaming features, social features and sales wordwide breaking a lot of records.

    This doesn’t mean the xbone will fail it is just that it will be behind.

    Remember when xbone gave a little 10% to the CPU? People thought that was going to magically change xbone hardware and make it superior. You know it didn’t.

    Now with this 8% additional GPU people get their hopes again and believe is a magically power that will change the hardware and make it on par with the PS4. That’s delusional.

    The xbone is not and will not be the leading console this generation. As soon as you make peace with it you can enjoy more your console.

    • YOUDIEMOFO

      All they “attempted” to do in the first place was try to mitigate the %10 overhead they gave to the Kinect right out of the box.

      And then make a story about how they were able to “push” the hardware even further because that was how they had built it from the beginning…. Okay, from the beginning your plans got shot down and you have been playing rebound ever since Microlo$t…..

      I vote for the power of ten…… When I see that I will be a believer!

  • datdude

    Oh you poor, delusional, easily suckered xbots. We tried to warn you. You didn’t listen, now you suffer. Oh look, the clouddzzzz!!!

    • Redinferno124

      Man just stop instigating flame wars, K.

      • datdude

        I don’t mind the flame wars, I’m not the one getting scorched.

  • Carlos Brand

    Another day another kill of Microsoft and meanwhile the sales are growing. It’s funny how some sites are declaring dead Microsoft, it’s like revive the launch of the PS3 when the 360 was going to be a failure….

    • Redinferno124

      I agree with you that the doom and gloom articles are getting quite old, but even with the rising sales, MS is way off from where they thought they’d be at this time regardless of what PR comes out and says otherwise.

    • chitown

      What?

  • Charles

    And you all are morons. XBox One is not behind PS4 in any way. 3.9 million to 4.2 million in 2013 while PS4 is released in 5 times as many markets and being released a week earliar and a huge EU following. LOL. Sony’s going down.

    • Redinferno124

      MS will keep up with Sony all gen, but your deluded if you actually think they can repeat what they did with 360. Remember when Sony had the same mindset coming off the success of PS2? Look how well that worked them after they announced that ridiculous price and no notable games for at least a year.

      MS’s golden days are well behind them. The Xbox One will do fine just as PS3 did, but right now the PS4 is right where the 360 was.

      • Charles

        Lol. No. Xbox one has tons of value out of the gate. Free xbox fitness, free killer instinct, free smartglass, free one guide. Two player through kinect out of box. You don’t need a neon blue baton to use kinect. Xbox one is the same price as ps4. They just bundled kinect. Huge value in kinect. Huge.

        • Redinferno124

          Xbox is $500 while PS4 is $400. They most definitely are not the same price. Also:

          1. Xbox fitness is free because its a damn fitness game. Hardly a reason or justification to spend $500 dollars on a game system when you can you to a gym or get actual training equipment.

          2. Killer Instinct is “free” to the extent you only have access to a handful of starting characters and must buy the rest. If you have to spend money on it, I don’t think you can call it “free”.

          3. Smart Glass is a gimmick just lick the touch pad on PS4.

          4. Assuming this is true, 2 players is cool, I guess.

          5. Not sure is blue baton is a reference to the light on the DS4, but OK sure.

          Kinect isn’t “bundled”. It’s built into the system, but can be “turned-off” to an extent and while an impressive on paper, in practice having it built into the OS has had some mixed results.

          It has value, but huge? that’s a bit of an oversell don’t you think?

          The way you describe Xbox One doesn’t make it sound like a game machine.

          I’m also concerned of you mental state if you weren’t being sarcastic just now.

          • Charles

            1. You’re an idiot.
            2. You’re an idiot.
            3. You’re an idiot.
            4. You’re starting to clue in.
            5. You’re still an idiot.

          • Guest

            Heh…Exactly what I anticipated.

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber!

          • Redinferno124

            2.

          • Guest

            3.

          • Guest

            4.

          • Redinferno124

            Heh…exactly what I expected from you

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber. Blah blah blah.

          • Redinferno124

            1.

    • chitown

      Charles, the One is in just as many major markets as the PS4. Releasing the One in Buttfrackistan isn’t going to make a meaningful difference. Dumbass…

      • Charles

        Sony did not 4.2 million either. That’s sold to vendors. Once Sony comes clean you’ll see.

        • Redinferno124

          Sony did sell that amount, google its pretty old news. As far as I know MS sold 3.9 million, so Im not sure what your arguing. Both are doing well.

          • Charles

            Sony sold. Vendors did not sell.

          • Redinferno124

            Look again. Both systems sold plenty.

        • Mikesims Sims

          You’re either a bad troll or misterxmedia level crazy.

          • Charles

            And you’re an idiot.

          • Redinferno124

            Says the idiot.

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber. Lol. Funny. You are out matched hun.

          • Redinferno124

            3.

        • Guest

          Just to let you know.

    • Mikesims Sims

      The weight of a million unsold xboners seems to be weighing heavily on his sanity.

      • Charles

        With a million + unsold PS4 in 2013 you must be feeling yhe same way.

        • Redinferno124

          Are you just making things up now due to everyone sniffing out your BS?

          • Charles

            Go give a BJ, so can up your social value.

          • Redinferno124

            That’s real cute. My social value is already way beyond yours as I don’t need to resort to sexual insults to get my point across :)

          • Charles

            Ya, just fecal matter. Dumb@$$. Get off my comments B!T@H.

          • Redinferno124

            Looks like I hit a nerve. I leave when I beat SR4. It’s gonna be awhile.

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber… Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

          • Redinferno124

            I give up, I’m tired of picking a fight with some child who lives in him mom’s basement. Going out.

            Don’t worry, someone else will call out your BS

          • Redinferno124

            :P

          • Redinferno124

            Fecal matter? Crap would have sounded less retarded.

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber. Keep up the stupidity it suits you.

          • Redinferno124

            It’s not a tumor….

          • Guest

            I’ll just leave this here

          • Redinferno124

            Wow…….Someone beat me to it. What are the chances.

            Seriously bravo.

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber. Obviously, nobody like you atleast.

          • Redinferno124

            Its opposite day so yes you are correct.

          • Redinferno124

            Wait for it :P

    • YOUDIEMOFO

      Huge EU following?! Have you read the reports?!

      There are precious day one xbones being shipped to “other” countries almost as if to hide that they are still all over the place. You can not say their sales are doing well in EU either…… And again someone claiming a week earlier is this huge time warp that Sony did in order to achieve the inevitable……

      People XBOne is a lesser system that lets you watch tv without switching your receiver over to another I/O…… I do believe that Sony just acquired Viacom a few months back and plans to do wonderful things with “actual services” instead of putting the dog and pony show on for you to watch…..

      • Charles

        XBox One has better performance than PS4. Its proved. They get 168 gb/s without latency. Graphics RAM has latency. Go back to school.

        • Redinferno124

          I’m supposed to trust your word over that of third party developers? If this was the case,Tomb Raider DE would have the same performance on both systems, which they don’t.

          • Charles

            They do. Unless the developers suck.

          • Redinferno124

            They would still no more than you by default.

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber….

          • Redinferno124

            Sigh…..

          • Redinferno124

            4.

        • Redinferno124

          I find it convenient that your account is private. Just proves your trolling for kicks as none of us can see if you actually own a system based on your activity.

          Your sig also makes you a hippocrate as all your doing is spewing BS and I’m calling you out on it.

          • Charles

            Like i said. Give a BJ and up your social value. Otherwise you’re just another idiot on these blogs.

          • Redinferno124

            What’s with your obsession with BJs? Sounds like you have first hand experience.

            Whether you admit it openly or not, you are just proving to everyone here how little you know. Please continue. I love train-wrecks.

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber…

          • Redinferno124

            5.

      • Redinferno124

        I think he may actually have trouble making intelligent sentences. He hasn’t made a single post that hasn’t contained information gathered from his ass.

    • Iain Chambers

      More like 3.2 million to 4.6 million and as for the extra markets Microsoft dropped them as they 1) wont sell many in the territory 2) Dont have the language settings for Kinect 3) Dont want to look bad when 1 happens

    • Guest

      How’s life in mentally ill bizarro world?

      • Charles

        Caution: morons comments are closer than they appear.

        • Redinferno124

          Your comments are indeed close together. Thanks for pointing that out.

          • Charles

            You’re like a tumor, you keep spreading. Maybe a brain tumor, cause your comments make everyone dumber

          • Redinferno124

            6.

  • PatcherStation

    Microsoft will never kill off Kinect. The £430 price tag in the UK is obviously down to Kinect being in the box. It’s laughable that Microsoft is convinced that most One owners are going to spend hours and hours playing games using Kinect, which isn’t going to be the case. Hardly any Kinect games will be released anyway, which is what happened with the 360. Like with the PS4, there needs to be a standalone One pack, more so in Europe. But looking at Kinect, it seems to be more for commands, which I think is a great idea, but it’s not an essential. I don’t have a camera for my PS4 and will never pay into one. I think most people who want a One, couldn’t care less about Kinect. I suppose Microsoft spat its dummy out with Kinect on the 360, as only a third of 360 owners paid into it. Even if Kinect will always come with the One, I can’t see most using it. I suppose setting Kinect up and experiencing it (with the One) will kill the curiosity. When the PS4 launches in Japan, that’s when the One will fall behind, eventually by a big margin. But looking at the prices of both consoles in the US, they’ll both be neck and neck. In Japan, the PS4 will have no competition. It’s Europe that will be Microsoft’s problem. A One for £350 is the highest I’ll go.

    • Mikesims Sims

      Xbox demand fell off a cliff in NA already, PS4s still selling out like hotcakes.

      • YOUDIEMOFO

        Yessir…..

  • JimmyGee

    If you choose to believe an ‘Industry Insider” as the voice of fact and reason, be my guest. Industry insiders usually have an axe to grind. That being said, just because one platform is seen as being more powerful than another, who cares? A lousy game that plays faster on a PS4 is still a lousy game.
    The real problem is how the two camps (Microsoft and Sony) force developers to choose a platform. That limits their sales and limits the profits that the developers can make. And it limits how many game titles will actually make it to market. The gamers are supposed to be the winners, not Sony or Microsoft.
    Makes me glad that I still game on a PC with the growth in indie titles and distribution strategies such as Steam, which make titles available at really great prices.
    Oh yeah, and my PC is way more powerful than Sony or Microsoft consoles.
    …just my 2 cents worth.

  • Mike Zoppa

    The XBox One is one of MS biggest mistakes besides Windows 8. I was hopeful, but at this point unless they upgrade their console and give current owners the upgrade, we will see MS fail for the first time. The recent gain in 8% is nothing when the PS4 is running at not only in faster frames per second, but higher screen resolution. Such a disappointment. You may see rats leaving the sinking ship in the following months.

  • Mike Zoppa

    Even if the Kinect was gone and the price equal to the PS4, it will still be slower. The XBox One is that bad. And this generation of consoles should run in nothing less that 1080 HD, not 720. 5 years ago 720 may have been as an acceptable resolution for a new console, but not in 2014 when 4K TVs are coming out and 8K TVs are demonstrated as a TV in the future.

  • Gamist

    Eh. I’m pretty sure sports fans and Xbox fans won’t care or see the difference.

  • Demetre HG

    Ponies keep focusing on that 4.2 million for crapstation4 sold and see it go away very soon you fools

    • Redinferno124

      Crapstation4. Still a better name than Xbox One.

      In all seriousness, just stop. I wont insult you but someone else probably will.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Dumbass Xdrone. Hey Demetre, enjoying your 18fps Tomb Raider while it averages 50 on PS4?

      • bowserslovechild

        He’s too busy being lotioned and powdered by his mommy. Oh, the stinging butt.

  • Redinferno124

    Exactly

  • Redinferno124

    Skyrim was built like a turd so yeah not really relevant considering it only functioned properly on PC.

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