Platforms, Rumors, Xbox One

Next Xbox One Halo Game to “Amaze and Shock” Gamers by Pushing Innovation for Graphics and Audio

by on February 7, 2014 3:53 PM 258

Little is known for the moment about the upcoming Xbox One Halo game, but a couple new career opportunity ads seeking a Graphics Engineer and a Software Development Engineer give us a glimpse on what we can expect from its visuals and audio.

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343 Industries is looking for an outstanding graphics engineer to complement its award-winning graphics team. This engineer will implement cutting edge features for the future of Halo, and will support other internal teams with their graphics needs and requests.

As a graphics engineer you will be responsible for writing and maintaining the systems which other 343 teams use to implement and iterate features during their daily work. The ideal candidate has a passion in this space, and loves getting their hands dirty while coding incredible systems which unlock the potential of our internal teams. Your features will be used to amaze and shock game players around the world. You are an out of the box thinker who relishes challenges, and enjoys making sure games are fast and pretty.

If rendering hot pixels and facilitating others gets you excited, this is the right job for you.

Candidate responsibilities
- Collaborate closely with internal development teams to unlock their potential
- Own and maintain various DirectX11 rendering systems
- Create new next-generation systems

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You are an audio technology innovator and have strong ideas for the future of audio technology. You will help prototype, test, and create audio features through the sheer power of your masterful coding abilities. You understand the tech behind audio at a deep level – both software and hardware. Working with developing technology means you have to be adaptive and understand the constraints of working in an iterative incubation environment. You must be a capable problem solver who is not afraid of big challenges and can use your engineering skills to quickly flesh out ideas with new technologies. A strong understanding of audio technology encompasses, but is not limited to, the following: audiology, acoustic and psychoacoustics, DSP, binaural/surround/HRTF spatial audio, Wwise or similar audio engines, Unity/Unreal or other scripting technologies that allow for rapid iteration on ideas.

As an audio-focused developer, you will be working collaboratively with the Technical Design Director, Central Audio Director, team creatives and producers to drive and support the audio features/tech you help create through all stages of production. You have well balanced communication skills and are able to present your audio concepts concisely both technically and in lay terms.

You thrive in an environment of innovation and excellence. Lastly, you must rock… figuratively of course.

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Both ads indicate that 343 industries is pushing the envelope of innovation for its upcoming Halo game. A lot of emphasis is put on the fact that both candidates will have to implement and work with new and cutting-edge systems and technologies.

Will the new halo really “amaze and shock” us? We’ll have to wait and see, but 343 Industries definitely seems to be stepping on the gas pedal here.

Join the Discussion

  • Temjin001

    I expect it to be. Halo 4 was a visual stunner.

    • mikeslemonadeFromN4G

      Halo 5 in 720p! Never played Halo 4 but Halo 3 and Halo Reach were two of the worst looking last gen games.

      • serfy

        You’re a moron

      • Dirty Sanchez

        But your gonna get destiny right bitch!!!!

        • mikeslemonadeFromN4G

          I’m not anticipating much from Destiny. Graphically looks mediocre for current gen, but since it’s supposed to be different gameplay wise I will reserve my judgement for later. And lol y’all know it’s true that it’s gonna be less than 1080p otherwise why get defensive??

      • hakesterman

        I doubt it will be made at 720P. Microsoft will be working with them so i am positive it will be a 1080P game and run at 45 FPS or more, which is more than sufficient to have it run flawlessly.

        • hakesterman_the_Fool

          I think you mean 480p at 20 fps. Should be just fine on a xbone. Fool.

          • Vitaliy Anonymous

            LMAO! You are calling someone a fool, yet you are the one who gave yourself that username. Idiot.

        • Neil Riley

          it’ll have baked lighting and all the tricks to make it just about hit it’s resolution/fps targets. I’m sure it’ll look great but it’ll be compromised and Digital Foundry will tell us all about them I’m sure.

          • jimstarooney

            Do you mean the same digital foundry that couldnt tell the difference between 720/1080p on call of duty ghosts? Trolled by rubin werent they?

      • Ritsujun

        Exactly.

    • Mikesims Sims

      I expect 900p 20-30 fps

  • Mikesims Sims

    “Your features will be used to amaze and shock game players around the world.” Tough to do on a 1.2tf gpu loaded down with triple OS overhead and ROP/memory bottlenecks.

    • Hip2Bsquare

      Lol jealousy isn’t attractive Sims, obvious yes, attractive no. While us ps4 guys play our single player exclusives infamous and the order, xbox one guys will be playing single and multiplayer exclusives…yup they sure have it bad with titanfall, project spark, halo, gears of war, sunset overdrive, and quantum break to name a few.

      • Mikesims Sims

        I’m sorry if facts make you upset.

        • hakesterman

          You didn’t give any Facts, you gave personal jacked up useless hype as only a Sony Droid would.

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL. 1.2tf gpu loaded down with triple OS overhead and ROP/memory bottlenecks.

          • asdfdsaf

            If you are so worried about hardware and graphics, ditch the consoles, get a high-end PC and enjoy Triple 4k gaming, with 4x Radeon 290X’s, 64Gb of Ram and a 6-core/12-thread Core i7 4930K @ 4.8ghz and throw it all under water.

            No console can match that.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Price/performance, no PC can match that.

          • pangurbon

            I could easily build another PC that’s much more powerful and slightly more expensive. Then take into account the fact that I get all my games almost free on Steam…

          • Mikesims Sims

            For $400 you can’t beat a PS4 in price/performance. For $500 you can beat an Xbox easily, though.

          • poopybutt

            All you have are numbers that mean nothing to most people. What most people see is: TITANFALL. You are upset you cannot have it. So you look up random numbers and present them as important. You’re resistance is futile, Titanfall will put yet another large screw into the coffin that is PS4. I cannot name a single exclusive for ps4 worth having thats out right now. Can you? Surely it must be killzone? LoL

          • You are flat out wrong

            Another Xbot clinging to his derivative EA turd. ^_^

          • mitro2055

            xbox triple os doesnt use as much memory as the ps4 os look it up man, Calm Down And Play On.

          • hakesterman_the_Fool

            Who needs facts with your tiny brain, Fool.

          • hakesterman

            Obviously your brain is smaller than a thimble. You such a Coward.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Time for your autism meds.

    • Orion

      Dude. You guys are seriously that butt hurt over DRM. You would think that the X1 a$$-raped you. Microsoft’s superior machine has no bottlenecks, dumbass. None. Developers have confirmed it. Your information is outdated. If you wanna debate, I can show you how it isn’t bottlenecked. However, developers have said the PS4 has bottlenecks. Funny that you don’t know that. And yes, we run 3 OS’s. But the PS4′s 1 OS uses more RAM than the X1′s 3 OS’s (3.5 to 3.0). Those are the facts. Also another fact, your PS4 will use around 400 gflops of its 1.8tflops for audio subsystems. The better the audio, the more the GPU will use. So in actuality, for every game with standard Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound, the teraflops dedicated to the graphics of every game will be 1.4tf. Whereas the X1 will use the entire 1.3tf’s its graphics because of it’s 15 special processors for Dolby Digital 5.1 and the future 7.1 that’s around the corner. Sony never told you the trade-offs. They will never plan to. They got you brainwashed, son. Wise up and get your information straight.

      • Mikesims Sims

        LOL. More worthless verbal diarrhea, you’re entirely wrong. Back to misterx’s blog with you.

        • Kabwall

          Is that all you have? His worthless “verbal diarrhoea”……two things, he posted a comment, which means it is by means of written communication it can’t be “verbal”, second….well lets not go into spelling difficulties.

          Anyway, he posted facts that have been reported on somewhat extensively in many places.

          You are seriously missing your calling as town idiot.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Nothing he posted was remotely factual. Please insert yourself into the nearest garbage disposal.

          • Kabwall

            Wrong again, you certainly are not paid enough, actually I wonder how wrong one person could possible be, you are seriously something special in that regards.

          • Jdrm03

            so what about all the facts that the ps4 is more powerful reported on by multitudes of devs lol? Yet, you are a dbag still waiting for a dpu magic tflops because misterxmedia said so lol

          • Kabwall

            Multitudes of Devs? Go on and name these multitude of Dev’s, and I can dispute ever single one of their claims. You are a couple moron if you do not understand the basic concept it doesn’t matter how much power you have, it is whether you can use all of it.

            You have been sold a sales pitch, a fallacy, and you are eating it all up, like the good little boy you are, because it is what you are told, not what you have taken the time and researched.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Let me guess, you believe in “free energy” and alien abductions too, right? Lunatic.

      • Jonas Ståhl

        Ok then please explain why every multiplattform game to this day runs superior on the ps4? Yeah that magic unicorn thing locked behind the golden gates of the Xbox to revealed at a later date will change all that. I will enjoy march or whatever the date was your cult leader and his alias as the insider have to explain how the date for the new tools have got delayed yet again. Just give it up! Even the hardware designer of the xbox one himself said that they were not targeting the highest graphics but a machine fit for both games and other media.

        And please show me where someone of importance have said that audio processing would require that amount of gpu work.

        Just look at the latest game TR:DE. They got straight code from the direct x API and still produced worse fidelity then the PS4 and the PS4 dev even had to help them.

        The 32 MB esram is to small to produce the clean visuals you are hoping for when trying to run games at 1080p/60fps. The only game on Xbox that does (Forza) have baked lightning, no aa and i can go on. Enjoy your inferior multiplats as you wait for sanity to come by.

        • Kabwall

          You guys are still that seriously desperate…..

          You base your calculations on the full deferred rendering model, when the forward rendering model (speaking in absolutes here) can hold a 1080p frame in 8MB RAM, how does your argument hold now against scrutiny?

          TR DE a straight port form DirectX11, yea correct, but not using any of the features of DirectX11.2, refer above to what this enables.

          Stop living in a fantasy world, actually what I should really say is top pushing the Sony media agenda, you really are not paid enough.

          What is most hilarious, is what Orion quoted is actual fact from tear downs reported extensively. the 4 CU is not used on the PS4 for graphic fidelity, from Mark Cerny himself, initially confirmed by Guerrilla, you know them, and the Xbox One specification are fact.

          Do you think you feel better now?

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL! 14+4 lives on in the dumb, delusional animal’s brains. Back to misterx’s blog with you. Tell us about the stacked dGPU next. LOL

          • Kabwall

            14+4 was CONFIRMED by Guerrilla, contradicted by Mark Cerny, who then went on to claim developers would be able to use the additional 4 CU for graphic fidelity mid lifecyle, once they understood who to develop at the bar metal. Something he himself failed miserably to do with his own game, and then ays the onus onto other developers.

            None of that is from MisterX blog, a blog I have nothing to do with.

            Notice you have nothing else to say, so, I will ask again, think you feel better now?

          • Mikesims Sims

            Wrong, dumb, and delusional. Must be sad desperately denying reality.

          • Kabwall

            Oh really, so you claim the full 18CU is available…then please explain why the Order 1866 is 800p/30fps…..?

            Bet you can’t, I can though, and it has nothing to do with artistic vision.

          • Mikesims Sims

            The stupid, it burns.

          • Kabwall

            The uneducated, it bet it does.

          • shinitaru

            I wonder if any of you guys actually play games or do you just argue about them a lot…

          • Kabwall

            Play, a lot.

          • Jonas Ståhl

            Throw some AA as well as the need of often having to store multiple pieces of data in the ESRAM, along with the speed games need update / create frame buffers and that 32mb is REALLY small. If you are talking about titled resources you know it not something invented by MS but have been available for open gl before. Look up amd sparse textureif you want.

            Mark Cerny said that developers have any choice they want on how many CU:s to use for compute and not that it is a fixed number. it could be 4 it could be 8 it could be 0 it is up to the dev. But since it brings alot of benefits compared to not using it why would they not. In the future when developers really start to use it the Xbox will be even more handicapped sitting on only 12.

          • Kabwall

            It is an evolution of sparse textures, actually you want to be discussing megatextures, i.e. John Carmack.

            Funny, isn’t Ryse using SMAA 1TX? It is commonly accepted AA is only necessary for the lower resolutions, it is a band aid, at 1080p 2xMSAA would be fine, any higher and it really becomes detrimental to the viewing experience, AA crawl, shimmering effect etc. Post processing, or hybrid AA solutions are exactly what the the Xbox One was designed for.

            No it is not up to the developers, and there is a very specific reason why it is not. What you and others here need to do, is perform some calculations, and in specific about 1080p resolution, and then you can understand why there is an inherent limitation on the PS4 using deferred rendering, is at a disadvantage to the Xbox One using Forward Rendering and how these limitations make the future very unclear as to what these consoles are capable of.

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL. Tiled Resources dGPU will save teh xboner!1 /misterx

          • Kabwall

            This is fun, you make it so easy :)

            Tiled Resources is an integral part of the design of the Xbox One, had I had time, hasn’t a developer (this information was posted on NeoGAF) just said a new SDK has come out meaning the XBO will run comfortably at 1080p. I think he used the phrase “tiled resources” as a trick…..it isn’t a trick when the architecture of the system is defined around that very specific development model.

            How is your already hardware maxed out PS4? You can’t deny that, you just said in a early post the full 18CU is available to developers, and if that is the case, and again, why is the Order 1866 running at 800p/30fps….?

            dGPU, lol, the XBO doesn’t need a dGPU, unlike another Disqus poster on here claiming the PS4 has ESRAM…..he has been around a while, and although majority incoherent, a walking definition of contradiction, and paid to promote and support his beloved platform of choice, provides far better discussion

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL. Mentally ill misterx’ers are like console conspiracy theorists.

          • Kabwall

            Yep, keep on proving my point……a rhetorical question, have you ever answered a question before, or just avoided like some shamed politician….the answer is quite clear.

        • hakesterman

          First off every game to date doesn’t run any better on PS4, that’s a Wet bubble dream of yours. Developers have already stated on several different occasions that their is virtually no difference in most of the games between the Consoles. But if you look at side by side comparisons you will notice that the Xbox Ones colors are more brighter and deeper, making the PS4 games look flat and washed out. There is no game on the PS4 that looks anywhere near as good as Forza 5 and there probably never will be because PS4 has a crappy GPU compared to XB1..

          • Mikesims Sims

            Your post is a good example of mental illness and delusion. “brighter and deeper colors” oh god, you’re either a troll or need pills.

          • hakesterman

            Go See an Eye doctor, your in desperate need Fella.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Once again you’re either a bad troll or mentally ill and your parents need to revoke your internet and put you on meds.

          • hakesterman

            Obviously your not taking enough meds cause your Stupid.

          • hakesterman_the_Fool

            What alternate universe do you live in, Fool.

          • Jonas Ståhl

            Tell me one game that does not have an advantage in either: Resolution, framerate or effects such as AA or DOF on the PS4. The thing you call brighter and deeper is a sharpening filter with crushed blacks that destroys the original picture. http://i.minus.com/ibteXyYuM72mXv.gif

            Forza 5 really lack aa solutions making the cars and road paint to have awful jaggies riddled all over it. here lock: http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/screen_kubrick/1197/11970954/2298313-169_forza5_directfeed_xone_ot_092613.jpg
            Look at the the edges of the car, the turn ahead and the white paint and look at the railing to the right. This coupled with the prebaked lightning from one of MS studios largest studios should tell you something of how good the GPU is.

            Crappy GPU you say. Same manufacturer and EVERYTHING on the PS4 GPU is beefier except from the clock speeds in which the difference is so small it leads to nothing.

          • Neil Riley

            You do know the GPU is the next one up from the one in the XB1 right?

        • Neil Riley

          >>>>Ok then please explain why every multiplattform game to this day runs superior on the ps4?

          yeah, I was wondering that too especially as like… the PS4 is weaker than the all mighty XB1 with slower ram and downgraded GPU.

          Also, why is M$ trying so hard to close the gap to PS4 by all their tiddly little tweaks?

          Just wondering ;)

        • poopybutt

          You’re argument is invalid because of Titanfall. Have fun in killzone lol

          • Mikesims Sims

            more 8 year olds inc

        • Marius

          Wow ur really that dumb? The problem is that developers can’t handle it yet. But they will. Same with PS3 when it cam out. Developers had no clue how to work with cell. End of story.
          After your logic, the consoles both are already at their limit :D U cant seriously believe that.

          • Jonas Ståhl

            The esram and the technology is similar to the previous xbox 360 edram so there should be no problems for devs to use it. The PS3 was based on an architecture not close to anything previous with multiple spu:s that had to be selectivity used hence why ports looked worse on the ps3 while first party stuff looked amazing. This gen both use more or less off the shelves PC parts and nothing magical will happen until developers will start to use compute and at that time the difference between the two will be even more dramatic than we see now because of how much more room there is to do it efficiently on the PS4.

        • jimstarooney

          47 mb of esram actually, please keep up.

          • shinitaru

            Where did you get that number from? I heard that it was 32mb as well. Either way, barely enough for a cache and that depends on if the devs bother to utilize it at all. I’ve read that it causes problems.

            http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/171697-xbox-one-costs-more-to-make-than-the-ps4-thanks-to-esram-and-kinect

          • Kabwall

            Then you need to read the new post on NeoGAF quoting a developer and what he said.

            The use of, the correct use of the ESRAM is and always was dependant on the toolsets from Microsoft, which everyone should have been clearly aware was delayed. That toolset, SDK is due for release, and the developer makes some very interesting observations, and I would suggest it is still not a completely mature toolset, not by any means.

          • shinitaru

            yeah, memory has always come in doubles, 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128, etc. 47mb makes no sense at all….

            I’m not saying that they wont improve or have better understanding of the hardware as time goes on, I’m sure they will. The real problem is not any issues that they may be having with it right now, it that 3rd parties will likely just want to make a game that is most compatible with every platform the game is going to come out on. The only games that are likely to even try to exploit that feature will be first party exclusives. Even then, can’t expect anything more than a frame rate increase

          • Kabwall

            Well, I think any question you had has been answered by the developer associated with Sniper, I haven’t had a chance to fully read his comments, but the latest SDK drop has him specifically quoting the XBO version of the game will run at 1080p comfortably, I would suggest 3rd parties already have, or just about to have the solution, not very mature solution either.

            I cannot answer for frame rates, however, there is no suggestion that frame rates would not increase especially when running 1080p comfortably, substantially.

            47MB, no that is the amount of RAM including ESRAM and various cache’s on the die, the claim that is the ESRAM size is plainly incorrect.

          • shinitaru

            “SDK drop has him specifically quoting the XBO version of the game will run at 1080p comfortably”

            what? do you mean this: http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-eSRAM-Too-Small-1080p-Says-Sniper-Elite-Dev-62170.html

            I never said that games wouldn’t run at 1080p, the machine is more than capable even without using the unconventional memory features (or in spite of them)

          • Kabwall

            I understand what you meant from your comment, I was just suggesting from the dev comments it seems this new SDK makes it so much easier it isn’t consider a problem anymore for multi plats.

          • shinitaru

            “dev comments it seems this new SDK makes it so much easier it isn’t consider a problem anymore for multi plats”

            Where did you get that from? Everything I read makes it seem that it’s been causing problems, even for the first party devs. Seems to me that MS made the same mistake that Sony did with the PS3 last gen, making devs code for a second memory pool. Fortunately they didn’t make the esram very large or even necessary.
            but even if none of that was an issue, most multiplat devs are not going to make a second version of the game just to take advantage of the features of a single console, especially when the benefits are only going to be a few extra FPS

          • Kabwall

            Did you really just completely ignore what the dev said?

            “They are releasing a new SDK that’s much faster and we will be comfortably running at 1080p on Xbox One. We were worried six months ago and we are not anymore”

            “It means you have to do it in chunks or using tricks, tiling it and so on.” What do you think the entire Xbox one Architecture was built on, they told everyone 1 month after E3, that is exactly what they wanted with the release of DirectX 11.2. Now they have released an SDK making the “trick” of use tiling as an integral component of developing for the Xbox One, and it seems making it very easy to do exactly that.

            And since you also linked to an article by Usher, you had better read this one, and I hope you understand how incredibly wrong the investigation and conclusions in the whole article are, even the title is completely wrong. http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PS4-CPU-More-Powerful-Than-Xbox-One-CPU-According-Benchmark-Test-61203.html

          • shinitaru

            Did you really just completely ignore what the dev said?

            Not at all…just putting it into perspective. That’s just what one dev is saying. There are plenty of other who disagree. Besides, we weren’t talking about coding for the XB1 in general, we were talking about utilization of the ESRAM.

            Speaking of ignoring what the dev said, I notice that you were careful to overlook this bit from that same interview:

            “The only problem is…Part of the problem is that it’s just a little bit too small to output 1080p within that size. It’s such a small size within there that we can’t do everything in 1080p with that little buffer of super-fast RAM,” Bolcato explained. “

          • Kabwall

            No, you completely put it out of perspective.

            “I think eSRAM is easy to use. The only problem is…Part of the problem is that it’s just a little bit too small to output 1080p within that size. It’s such a small size within there that we can’t do everything in 1080p with that little buffer of super-fast RAM,” Bolcato explained. ”

            Yet in the same full discussion, he said they will be running 1080p comfortably, and now they are quite comparable machines.

            I usually don’t but I will do this and paraphrase for you, because this is exactly what he said.

            “In the last 6 months I have found the ESRAM easy to use, but it has been to small for 1080p frame buffer without using what we used to refer to as tricks (Tiling in particular) . With the new SDK, this resolves that problem by making the tiling and other components a very easy development process, and now we are able to run our game at 1080p comfortably.”

            “We used to be worried, we are not anymore”

            I may have paraphrased, yet it was exactly what the dev said, but you just picking isolated comments in a desperate attempt to make your discussion sound plausible, and completely incorrect.

            Problem with Usher, I think I have seen him get it right once, and that was to do with Sony early last year. No problems, his hit ratio is about 0.5% of getting it correct, but you linked to an article that I can show has demonstrably highly invalid conclusions.

          • shinitaru

            No, you completely put it out of perspective.

            You mean “out of context” and no, I didn’t, I merely posted the part that you so conveniently forgot in your previous post. What was I supposed to do? Quote the entire article? I did quote the entire paragraph so it’s not out of context.

          • Kabwall

            You specifically ignored comments that change the perspective, you are out of context, you have used specific examples “from surrounding matter” to create a logical fallacy. You also attempted to change the perspective, as explained below.

            You are using an appeal to authority to misrepresent the original comments and claim your own position as authoritive.

            You are subjectively using quotes specifically referring to the past tense to misrepresent present tense,

            Simply, you are living in the past, Good luck.

          • shinitaru

            Wow, you are just completely talking out of your ass, you know that don’t you?

          • Kabwall

            Did I confuse you? I suspect that may not be hard in your case.

            You are wrong, and continue to be wrong. Suggest you stop, unless you are a glutton for punishment.

          • shinitaru

            No, you didn’t confuse me, you had no rational response so you replied with circular nonsense. You see, I wasn’t trying to establish anything, I was simply supplying the part of that interview with the developer that you went to great pains to avoid, god knows you included everything else. I didn’t take anything out of context, hell, I even included a link to the actual interview, something I noticed you didn’t do.
            I see now that you are incapable of carrying a rational exchange without resulting to petty insult. You get your wish, I’m through with you now. good day

          • Kabwall

            Man, you are really struggling.

          • shinitaru

            whatever you need to tell your self, little man

          • Kabwall

            Reverting to personal insults, the inevitable position of the weak minded when defeated.

          • shinitaru

            Maybe, but you went there first. I thought we were having a discussion but then you go all fanboy on me. That’s fine, I don’t care what you think. Now run along and find someone else to pester

          • Mikesims Sims

            It’s 47MB of on die cache, including ESRAM, but it’s not all ESRAM. Misterx’ers can’t get even the most basic facts straight.

          • jimstarooney

            Yes thats right sorry my mistake. 32mb of esram in the 47 on diehttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r9i-SFaQ-QA
            Here for all you who dont think tiled resources are adequate enough for true next gen graphics, and btw ps4 cant do this.

      • Bilal Prince- Ali

        is this guy a retard…? i honestly don’t know if hes being serious or not because he SERIOUSLY cant be this stupid…? -_____-

        • Mikesims Sims

          Google misterx, you’ll find all you need to know there.

      • Jdrm03

        lol, it’s a misterxmedia dumbass lol.
        still waiting for that hidden dpu? lol.

        • Mikesims Sims

          The misterx cult never stops believing.

        • jimstarooney

          For you to know he’s a misterxmedia dumbass means you are one of the many sony dumbasses that frequent the site because you know that some of the stuff on there is real, not just fantasy.thete is a shitstorm comin son, and you have picked the wrong side.

          • You are flat out wrong

            “that some of the stuff on there is real,”

            AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

            Go away, misterx, your LiveJournal blog is terrible.

          • Jdrm03

            Lol, are you one of his cult member dbag? Ya, i know of him, i wanted to believe, then microsoft announced the console and showed that blog was full of it. you’re right there is a shitstorm coming, titanfall running at 720p. Then what are you retards excuse going to be then? Microsoft lost the specs war, period. It’s no the games war and imo, Microsoft is winning. But you can keeping believing you’re retarded lies with your fellow cult members. “keep digging” bahaha.

          • Jdrm03

            I know of him because at one point I wanted to believe. Then MS announced the console and showed he and his fake insider were full of it. It’s all fantasy lol. You are a cult member and don’t even realize it lol. Deal with it. Microsoft lost the specs war, what matters now are the games, and imo MS is winning right now. Aww snap, im a microsoft fan. you cult members give us fans a bad rep. Open your eyes….and you’re right a shitstorm is coming, titanfall running at 720p. What then? you’re going to ‘keep digging’ bahaha?

          • Jdrm03

            It happens? Microsoft underestimated Sony? Wouldn’t be the first time a tech company underestimated the competition. It has happen many times, especially with Microsoft. The iPhone rings a bell. The fact that Mattrick left before the xb1 even launched should be proof at the dismay the xbox division was in. It’s pretty dang obvious the console was developed by suits in mba’s. Microsoft has amazing engineers, but it doesn’t matter if your hamstringed by suits, and that’s exactly what happened with the xbox one.
            3 billions dollars. Ah, one of the wonderful facts that was spun into BS by your cult. You do know that 3 billions dollars was for r&d AND all the manufacturing and logistics? It was a multi-year contract that cost 3 billion dollars, not 3 billion dollars on just r&d. One of those awesome facts that that was spun and skewed to support the idiotic beliefs that come from that blog.
            It’s funny, the best looking game is running at 900p. Has tiny level design that you can actually partake in. Reminds me of all the xbox fanboys last gen arguing that uncharted only had great graphics because of tiny level design.
            And forza 5. The lack of AA, lack of dynamic lighting, lack of weather, and the downgrade in graphics from the E3 presentation were the reason why the game runs at 1080/60fps. But

      • Alienraider

        well sheet son!! testify I love it!!

    • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

      jsyk, NO ONE has maxed out either platform and optimization tools have barely started being developed. On paper, due to the eSRAM the Xbox One’s GPU output is actually more powerful, clocking in at a theoretical maximum speed of 218GB/s where the PS4′s GPU is able to pushe out 176GB/s… Once again, to make sure you understand, this is all in theory, and we won’t see either console maxing out their hardware for several years.

      And ^that^ is only the GPU, not the CPU. Microsoft’s puppy maxes out with a 1.75GHz AMD 8-core CPU, but Sony has yet to confirmed the official speed of their custom AMD 8-core x86 based architecture… Why is that? Hmmm… You’d think if it was more powerful, they’d be touting it like they’re trying to with everything else.

      • Mikesims Sims

        Wrong and wrong.

        • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

          Those are some nice counter arguments you’ve got there… It’d be a shame if you were to include them in your post.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Your ignorance isn’t convincing anyone but you, not worth the effort.

          • hakesterman

            Your more ignorant than anyone else, what are you chirping about.

          • Mikesims Sims

            You can run in circles all day believing delusional and ignorant nonsense, it won’t change anyone’s mind or change the hardware facts.

          • Laza Amafirin

            Where are your facts, you dumb twat? I’ve yet to a viable source from you. You’re arguing like my 8 year old niece. Grow up.

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL. Facts make the dumb and delusional upset, apparently. The sad thing is you’re not fooling anyone but yourselves.

          • Laza Amafirin

            Again, where are your facts? This is the last time I’m going to ask. Another reply without facts/sources and your prove my point that you’re just a pathetic fanboy, trying to troll. Your move.

          • Jonas Ståhl

            I can do it for him here are your facts.

            1.18TFLOPS (available for games) from 12 CU. (X1 has 1.32TFLOPS but 10 percent GPU reserved for system)
            768 Shaders
            48 Texture Units
            16 ROPS
            2 ACE with 8 queues each = 16 queues total

            Playstation 4 GPU:

            18.4TFLOPS from a total of 18 Compute Units +56%
            1152 shaders 50%
            72 Texture Units + 50%
            32 ROPS + 100%
            8 ACE with 8 queues each = 64 queues total +400%

          • Jdrm03

            but you’re forgetting the magic hidden dpu and that the cus are actually dpcus on the xb1 and that the 12 cus are actually 48 cus!!!!

          • Laza Amafirin

            Whoops, your copy pasting skills may be on point, but where are the sources to the original claim? These are just a bunch of numbers. Do you need help?

          • Jonas Ståhl

            What original claim are you referring to? there are so many in this post so. And these numbers can be found on any creditable source for harware breakdown. You know how to google? try this otherwise http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/the-xbox-one-and-ps4-share-similar-specs-but-the-devils-in-the-details/

          • Mikesims Sims

            You’re throwing dumb delusional tantrums and you don’t even know the most basic specs comparison facts? LOL explains a lot.

          • Psionicinversion

            actually your delusional, you see numbers yes there better but i bet you havnt got the slightest idea about any of it or anything actually i should right up an article of wikipedia inflating the PS4 past its actual performance like with the 8ACE queues and stuff it makes the console 3x more powerful i bet youd read it and take it as fact when in fact ive actually just made it all up

            All modern GPU’s have 2x ACE queues so dunno why the PS4 has 8 might have to try find out why

          • Mikesims Sims

            Does misterx have you idiots vandalizing wikipedia now? LOL

          • Laza Amafirin

            That’s like the 5th time you’ve used the word ‘delusional’. You obviously have trouble finding words to say, maybe this can help you: http://thesaurus.com/

            P.s. The only delusional person here, is you. :)

          • Mikesims Sims

            You don’t know the most basic facts about the GPUs and you’re throwing tantrums about Xbox being more powerful. Insane.

          • Laza Amafirin

            Again, why are you so upset? The only person throwing a tantrum here is you. How do you expect a serious reply, when you acting like a 5 year old, lol? You don’t know the first thing about GPU’s and how they work. All the info you’ve posted, you’ve gotten from other people.

          • Crypt0117

            I like how the PS4 uses 100 percent of it’s TFLOPS and the Xbox 1 doesn’t.

          • hakesterman_the_Fool

            Quiet, Fool.

          • Laza Amafirin

            This entire site including yourself, is drenched with PS4 fanboys. Look at all your comments and check the likes… It’s as if every Sony droid is connected somehow, and defend each other no matter how ignorant and wrong each other might be. Pathetic.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Anyone with the most rudimentary tech knowledge could tell PS4 is significantly more powerful, and that will never change. Keep living in delusional bizarro world.

      • Temjin001

        Because I see a lot of this tech talk in flame wars I think too many over look the value of the art direction and resource research for asset creation in games. I’ve been playing Halo 4 again recently. I’m amazed by how much work has gone into the geographic topology of landscapes. A very knowledgeable team who knows advanced land formations, like land slumps and slides and other geologic research, have worked to create textured accuracy that goes well beyond the tech. A big part of the impressive nature of the game comes from the talent and resourcefulness of the team. It’s not that the 360 received any boost of power for Halo 4. Yet when you go from something like Perfect Dark to Halo 4 it certainly feels like a near-generational increase in technical prowess. In reality it has a lot more to do with skill.
        All this talk about theoretical limits and memory bandwidth is blown way out of proportion.
        The real praise most acknowledge in video game graphics comes from the raw ability of the team (and no, they’re not all of the same skill level) and not so much the hardware, whether they know it or not.

        • Jessie Bristol

          Wait until devs start developing with Quads instead of Triangles and use Ptex technology to save 30% on video memory and textures being rendered by the GPU.

          • Temjin001

            Pretty sure textures are already handled by the GPU. That being through the TMU and ROPs specifically. But I’m no electrical engineer. So many around here though appear to esteem themselves as such…
            But yah, I’ve been modeling in quads just for the sake of subdivision friendly meshes. It’s nice knowing that it helps pave the way for uvw’less mapping. I’d love to ditch the time consuming unwrap work and just do p-tex based mapping. I’ve played around with this in mudbox while thinking, “wow, wouldn’t this be nice”

          • Jessie Bristol

            Films do it already and Nvidia is advocating developers do it as well. It would allow games to use less video memory or allow developers to add additional textures without compromising performance.

            And my first comment wasn’t just about Xbox One, as the technology is platform agnostic.

        • Mikesims Sims

          No software can make up for the hardware GPU/GPGPU gap. Speaking of Halo 4, Corrine Yu is now with Naughty Dog, I’m sure she’ll put PS4′s stronger hardware to good use.

          • Temjin001

            Mike. I don’t think you interpreted this right. I said nothing of software programming. I’m speaking to the value of quality artistic/technical direction. The amount of intelligence and reference work allotted to create quality assets. And yes, Naughty Dog is also of a high pedigree of quality. Which is a big reason why their games look better than the majority of PS3′s games out there. All those PS3 exclusive devs are working with the same hardware. Yet, Naughty Dog’s games stand out as notch above them in most cases. PS3 exclusives often use custom tools and software, each designed to serve the nature of their respective game optimally. Yet, despite this, Naughty Dog’s games generally look best, rivaled only by Santa Monica Studios. Both studios have some of the world’s best TALENT. Including also a budget to support research teams to fly around the world to capture reference data to make for very convincing scenery.

            But back to Halo. Of course, if all things were equal. That is, if 343 Industries (or Naughty Dog) were to build the same game for either the XO or the PS4 exclusively, the PS4 build would likely look better as result of the added boost to GPU processing.

            My point is this. The line between technical limitation and artistic sophistry is a thin one indeed.

            In a world of massively different game budgets and limited quantity of available top tier talent, few companies have the budget or resourcefulness to produce games at their optimum capacity on a given set of hardware. Where even teams working with more powerful hardware, yet with less premium skill and budget will often be outstripped by those with the budget and skill on somewhat lesser hardware.

            MS handpicked a team of game designing ‘all stars’ for Halo 4. Hence why it looks so fabulous. Hence why it looks better than 99% of games produced during the prior generation.

          • Mikesims Sims

            I’m sure Naughty Dog squeezing every last ounce of performance out of the PS3 with their game code helped too.

            While your point that “power is meaningless without talent/budget” is true, PS4 has more power to work with and devs will certainly take advantage of it. There still won’t be parity.

        • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

          True story! Halo 4 was a MS’s 7th Gen. example of how important stylizing is in your game. Nintendo’s 6th Gen. example would be Wind Waker. Of course, now that we’ve gotten the HD remake, the OG Wind Waker kinda falls short, but it has held up wonderfully considering how long ago it was developed. Same goes for Halo 2 on the OG Xbox. Compare that to other titles developed around that time and you’ll be blown away! I still throw in my copy of H2 and find it less than difficult to look at with a smile.

          I should’ve added a disclaimer discussing how the tech-specs aren’t what’s really important, but I was responding to Sims’ comment, which was about the tech-specs.

      • Neil Riley

        And yet games on PS4 run at higher resolution and at highter FPS. so D’ur keep guessing!

        • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

          Guessing? Those are the specs. The only “guessing” is being done by the people saying that 2-month old hardware that’s still being optimized (and dev tools still being developed for) is being maxed out.

          The eSRAM learning curve is similar to the Cell’s. After people figure out how to work with it, comparison screenshots won’t make the front page of N4G every day.

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL. Wrong.

        • jimstarooney

          Um I think you will struggle to find any 2nd party games that have better frame rate on ps4.and please dont use trde seeing as they were two different devs

        • Psionicinversion

          And the order 1886 will run at 800p (cus of the 2 black bars) and 30fps… arguements?? although i know exactly what your going say

      • You are flat out wrong

        “On paper, due to the eSRAM the Xbox One’s GPU output is actually more
        powerful than the PS4′s, clocking in at a theoretical maximum speed of
        218GB/s where the PlayStation’s GPU is able to push out 176GB/s…”

        You don’t add up the total bandwidth, you turd. That’s not how it works.

        • Mikesims Sims

          But but Penello the snake oil salesman said..

        • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

          If I left it out, then would you be so kind as to do it for me? Apparently my calculator is out of batteries.

    • Kabwall

      No, no, and no.

      Try again?

      • Mikesims Sims

        Fact, fact, and fact.

    • hakesterman

      That’s retarded. I play Dead RIsing 3 and it looks Awesome and it displays hundreds of Zombies at Once and they all move around without any issues at all and game play is as smooth as it comes. And the Three Operating systems do not run Simultaneously, they only run when needed, and the operating system has it’s own system memory, so get your facts straight before posting retarded remarks.

      • Mikesims Sims

        DR3 looks and runs like crap and would run much better on PS4. Keep drinking the kool-aid.

        • Psionicinversion

          Actually it wouldnt run better, DR3 is supposed to be 30 fps because they wanted to fill up the place with zombies…. it would still run at 30fps on PS4 cus theyd just add more and more zombies until it dropped to 30 so it wouldnt run any better at all actually

          • Jonas Ståhl

            Or they could have used the extra resources to increase resolution or framerate if the were fine with the amount of zombies…

          • Psionicinversion

            they werent fine with it, they intentionally added more than there were originally cus it had more head room… think of World War Z at the Israel wall where they piled ontop of each other if there was more headroom even that wouldnt be good enough… more zombies.

          • Jonas Ståhl

            It not like it’s a fact and we will never know so your guess is as good as mine.

          • Psionicinversion

            It is a fact, they increased the zombie count on the X1 when they found they had more processing power… i wouldnt know if i hadnt read about it, and that was straight from DR3 developer so it is a fact.

          • Jonas Ståhl

            yes it was true on xbox but would it have been on ps4 or would they have settled on the same amount as that on xbox and do something else on the PS4.

          • Psionicinversion

            well no they wouldnt cus the game is all about fighting zombies thats it, what else would they do?? the only interest they said is filling it up with as many zombies as they can fit in. Lets said they decided to up the resolution to 1080p for the ps4 that alone would stress the console to 30 fps with same amount of zombies as x1 i reckon, or maybe with a few more zombies but there target framerate is 30fps so you either fill up the scene with more and more stuff till it bows to 30fps or you up the resolution or detailing

        • hakesterman

          That’s the most retarded Comment i ever seen, Looks like you been sniffing Cocaine.

          • Guest

            DDR3 suck, apparently every pc is now crap because it uses DDR3… (Even tho GPU’s use its own GDDR5 ram.)

          • hakesterman

            PC ram is still DDR3, the only GDDR5 memory is on Graphics cards. GDDR5 is slightly faster, that doesn’t make DDR3 memory bad.

          • Jdrm03

            Guess where most of the grunt work is done when it comes to games….

          • Psionicinversion

            PC needs DDR3 ram cus GDDR5 sucks for a main system ram got to much latency, for pushing graphics like the PS4 its fine but for general computing its very bad so in a PC the GDDR5 is where it belongs, on the gfx card

          • hakesterman_the_Fool

            Hey i take offence to that comment. “snort” “snort”

      • Guest

        take a screenshot, count the zombies, upload the pic.. yeah that’s your so called “truth” or “fact”. “hundreds of Zombies” ?? LOL delusional.

        • hakesterman

          Don’t be Jealous Sony droid.

          • hakesterman_the_Fool

            Don’t be a Xboner. Fool.

          • hakesterman

            It looks like the Fool is you, you waisted your time creating that name. Just goes to show what a Coward you are.

          • shinitaru

            You and “_the_Fool” are really the same person, aren’t you? I think that you crave the attention so much that you come on here and argue with yourself…..

          • hakesterman_the_Fool

            I don’t argue with myself, or do I?

          • Neil Riley

            I actually don’t think he is jealous.

          • hakesterman

            I think he is really Jealous, beyond repair.

      • hakesterman_the_Fool

        How did you see pictures of Dead Rising 3 on the PS4 already? You’re confusing hundreds of zombies to ten on the screen at once on the Xbone, Fool.

        • hakesterman

          Obviously your the fool.

          • hakesterman_the_Fool

            So you admit you’re a Fool. About time.

          • hakesterman

            It looks like your the Fool, And your silliness won’t effect me at all.

      • Neil Riley

        720p, crushed blacks and it can only just hit 30fps with big drops, those are last gen figures I’m afraid to say.

      • Jdrm03

        I own Dead Rising 3. It’s a very entertaining game, but “look awesome” is giant load. The game is hideous.

        • hakesterman

          The Game is Awesome from top to Bottom.

    • poopybutt

      Name a single exclusive on the PS4 worth owning right now.

      • Mikesims Sims

        Tough to do on a 1.2tf gpu loaded down with triple OS overhead and ROP/memory bottlenecks.

        • Kabwall

          Would that be compared favourable to the 3.5GB OS loaded on the PS4? A operating system based on FreeBSD, one that is very good at what is was created for, a server operating system.

          Tell me exactly where the bottleneck is on the Xbox One and why it is a bottleneck? Use reasoning and good discussion, as opposed to your normal incoherent rants.

          And then technically explain to me what the inherent limitation, bottleneck if you like, that exists in the PS4.

          And then I can tell you with reasoning and sound logic, what you have not been told about the PS4 by Sony and why.

          Really want to get into this debate?

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            I wouldn’t expect anything other than an incoherent rant – at best. You’ll probably be met with a dismissive “excuse” as to why he isn’t willing to back up his argument, similar to the one that I got. I’ll attach it for you.

          • Kabwall

            I didn’t imagine I would. I am certainly no genius when it comes to developing but a quick read on technical details and discussions, unbiased ones at that, shows how incorrect this guy is.

            What an unimaginative idiot.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Your “debate” is talking points from misterx’s blog, you’re as credible as a flat earther conspiracy theorist.

          • Kabwall

            Really? Since I don’t read it, that is amazing. So my curiosity grows, how do you know so much about it, why would you read it?

            In fact, and understand, the information I post is available freely on the web, and has been part of the debate since the reveal of these consoles, not information taken from MisterX blob’s.

            I think I had better start reading it, it obviously has you very, very worried.

    • Michael Mullis

      CONSOLE WARRIORS ASSEMBLE!!! THERE IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE XBOX ONE WE HAVE TO ATTACK BECAUSE WE ARE INSECURE ABOUT OUR OWN CONSOLE CHOICE!!!

      • Mikesims Sims

        Which stage of grief are you on right now, denial, or anger?

        • Michael Mullis

          That’s the best you got console warrior? One of us appears to be so sad he had to attack the Xbox One article. Wonder which one that is? Hmmmmmmmm.

    • Vious
      • Mikesims Sims

        Which stage of grief are you on right now, denial, or anger?

    • Alienraider

      The games look and play as well on the xbox, yet I can snap another app to the side and keep playing the same…. can the ps4 do that? and dont give me the nonsense about the res…. doesnt mean anything if the textures look like a dogturd

  • Trekster_Xboxer

    I think it will put Even Ryse to shame, and that is saying A LOT!

    Come on Halo 5, get here!

    • bigshynepo

      Many game company job posting read exactly like this one, I see nothing newsworthy here.

  • dm13x

    binaural audio is what i really want in videogames

  • crazysapertonight

    Statements like this are very funny. I and really like to read comments of fanboys that really trust to all this rot.

    Xbox One with his tablet’s hardware can shock only true console gamers, who never see PC gaming and always play on xbox 360

  • Ritsujun

    Who let the hakesterdog out?

  • http://www.dnaustrem.com/ DNA

    I’m not gonna troll too much or be too much of a Sony fanboy but; “amaze and shock by pushing innovation for graphics…” Really? With a weaker console graphics, memory and calculations wise. Me thinks not.

    • Psionicinversion

      the X1 is actually built around a specific concept of tile based rendering and other stuff they added in 11.2… once theyve sorted there stuff out itll get better looking, also not everything the X1 does is designed to go through the GPU but bypass it and im not talking about cloud processing either. So youll have to wait and see what they bring to the table if its good or not

      • Mikesims Sims

        Tiled Resources!!1 Sekrit Sauce!! Paging misterx. lol

        • Psionicinversion

          Doesnt matter to me ill be gaming in 4K when Star Citizen comes out in the next year or 2 and will put any of your crappy games to shame… Game of the decade is incoming!!!

          • Mikesims Sims

            Of course, when your ignorance falls flat you’ll wave the PC red herring.

          • Psionicinversion

            why the PC red herring? i game on PC and not owned a console since N64 were always being held back by consoles fixed hardware so when i get my 10+ teraflop sysem ill see your PS4 and think crap can only use it on 1 game cus ill be held back for 8 years till the next rubbish console comes out

          • Mikesims Sims

            You’re 12 and incapable of owning such a PC, and PS4 will still be more powerful than an Xbox. Keep crying.

          • Psionicinversion

            im 31 and will cost me £1700 at most for 2 gfx cards and a 4K monitor, so you can keep crying at your cr@p box PS4 prolly will be more powerful than a xbox but my PC will be 5x more powerful than your “amazing” PS4

          • SuperJamaican

            Lame ass PC gamers….literally the scum of the earth.

          • Psionicinversion

            thanks… love you to :d

      • JerkDaNERD7

        Exactly. It’s funny even with the more expensive APU people haven’t asked why?!

        Out of either company that has taken the actual risk to innovate, and that is Microsoft. I believe most people hasn’t really done their DD to realize Microsoft has some surprises in store.

        • Psionicinversion

          Its like people bang on about ROPS and ACE queues being less but theres no point in having more than you need cus its a waste of chip space. The ports at the use DX11 not sure if alot even use anything in 11.1 but soon as the engines come that use 11.2 feature set which is probably why they licensed AMD tech and built it themselves so that the chip can accelerate 11.2 stuff properly in hardware then design everything around that. so may come together for em.

          Also you can bet the Halo engine will be updated to use the new techniques MS are trying to employ. Sure tiled based rendering have bin in opengl for ages i know cus i owned a PowerVr Kyro2 like 15 years ago that used tiles to render frames but MS wouldnt of put it in DX unless they new they could improve on it

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL. 32 ROPs are a waste of chip space, that’s a new one. Performance gap will widen, not shrink. Why so dumb and delusional?

          • Psionicinversion

            You are dumb i was talking the X1 you thick pile of cr@p. I was saying if the X1 doesnt need more than the amount of rops its got why put them in there, thats a waste of chip space wasnt talking about the PS4 in there at all

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL it does need more than 16, that’s why it’s a bottleneck. It must be painful to be so ignorant yet determined to prove down is up.

          • Psionicinversion

            I arent really bothered ill be running on 10+ teraflops, 600-800GB/sec bandwidth, 5634 stream processors, 128 ROPS oh and insane super sexy 4K when i next upgrade in 1-2 years to run game of the decade so both your consoles cus suck it!!!

            Btw my current 280x toxic put out 4.3+Teraflops 320GB sec bandwidth and its a mid-high end card…. not even the best!!!

          • Mikesims Sims

            LOL. More tech ignorance, combined with “I was a PC gamer all along!”. Enjoying your meltdown?

          • Psionicinversion

            Id say that the 8 ACE queues are more like a bottleneck for the PS4 cus its giving sign where to go so it can get down the 1152 lanes quicker but it only goes through when there enough GPU power available to process it. So in theory technically if the GPU is maxing out data is going be left stagnant or itll take longer to get down, having 64 things trying to get down a full 64 lane motorway which is blocked up and crawling along could be slower than going down a 4 lane motorway carriage at a steady pace filling the 756 lanes

          • Psionicinversion

            ok WHY is it a bottleneck? do you even know what they do?

          • shinitaru

            cause they have electrolytes and they have what plants crave?

          • Psionicinversion

            could be hahah hes funny Mikesims is hes clearly just a massive troll cus he knows nothing about what hes talking about and i doubt he actually bothers to try to find out what anything does. I kinda understand what the ACE queues do now and i think if there a bottleneck on the PS4 itll be there, trying to cram to much stuff down a fully utlilized GPU isnt good i think. Maybe theyve thought of ways around it somrthing like opaque shadows use vertex shaders which are different to compute shaders so free up power to process stuff in the wider ACE command queue but if all that doesnt get processed by the time more data floods back down it could either keep processing stuff in the ACE queue holding up the other stuff or push the other stuff through holding up stuff in other ACE queues

            the 290/290x have 8 ACE queues for 64 compute commands same as the PS4 which is inetresting cus that seemed to be of developed because of sony actually so thanks sony :d but theyve got 2500+/2800+ stream processors respectively so its alot easier for them to get that data down

        • Mikesims Sims

          It’s more expensive because of the bloated ESRAM. Wrong and delusional.

        • SuperJamaican

          What are you talking about since may they have been constantly surprising us since last May. Surprisingly stupid they are.

      • http://www.dnaustrem.com/ DNA

        I won’t pretend to know specifics all that well and absolutely agree the XBone will succeed at certain actions over the PS4 however the general consensus is the PS4 will almost always have the edge graphics wise, and not just on first party titles. And because of how fast the time to triangle is on PS4 developers will have more time to do several sweeps on the game.

  • Laza Amafirin

    We’re very early into next-gen we have yet to see the full potential of either console. That being said, I have a PS4 and Xbox One and I can proudly say that Ryse is the best looking next-gen game thus far.

    • Mikesims Sims

      KZ 1080p 50-55FPS average w/ better effects, clearly more technically advanced. To put that on Xbox it would be 900p 30 fps w/ worse effects. Just like BF4, Tomb Raider, CoD, etc. PS4 is just a more powerful system like that.

      • Michael W

        Average… so that’s why it was patched to let people cap it at 30? Just making sure I heard your delusion correctly.

        • Mikesims Sims

          Multiplayer is 50-55fps average. PS4′s hardware is significantly more powerful. Keep crying.

          • Psionicinversion

            actually in killzone single player is 30-45, multiplayer is 45-55/60… no multiplayer game keeps a steady fps say 60 unless the game is locked to 60 and your hardware is so much more powerful that even with its frame drops it doesnt drop below 60 but then your not getting the best visuals. actually turning on Vsync will cap it at the displays refresh rate say mine would be 60 but the game looks weird to me then

          • Michael W

            You are the one defending Sony as if they pay your bills. Wish I was so delusional to fight for a Company that does not even know I am alive.
            Maybe you could actually go enjoy your PS4 more if you had games to play…

    • SuperJamaican

      Nonsense killzone ftw.

    • tmservo

      To me, the prettiest on either console is Tomb Raider:DE. It swamps even my PC @ 1440P on a 280X with cranked up settings. But the next two in my list would be ones you wouldn’t consider. Pinball on the PS4 is gorgeous. I mean fantastic. Super Mario 3D has one of the most well done color pallets and set designs of any game I have ever played, and Peggle 2 uses color, backdrops and lighting to great effect even though you don’t notice it.

  • angryguy77

    Yes…the ps4 is so much more powerful than the x1! That’s why the order is going to be in 800 30fps. That’s why ign voted KZ the best looking game kn either console…oh wait that was Ryse

    • Mikesims Sims

      True, the ps4 is so much more powerful than the x1. Sorry you’re too dumb to understand why.

      • angryguy77

        Really I don’t care if it is. I just like trolling you dbags that attache your self worth to a particular console.

        I’m happy with my purchase regardless. They deliver the games I like to play.
        Enjoy your ps4, im sure its a decent system.

        • Mikesims Sims

          “I wasn’t dumb, I was just trolling” okay bro.

          • angryguy77

            Ahhh it’s the weekend. I forgot there are children present.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Yes, children making posts like yours.

          • Vious

            if they’re children then:
            you’re a grown man arguing with children…..what does that make you? = very immature.

          • Mikesims Sims

            Is this the schoolyard “rubber and glue” taunt?

          • Vious

            no, i’m just stating the obvious. you’re very immature

          • Psionicinversion

            even Chris Roberts said that ryse is better looking than Killzone and hes looking at the technical aspects from a game developers point of view. Seeing as hes one of the most acclaimed game developers out there hes actually worth listening to.

      • Vious

        I hardly even come here but by the looks of things it seems you’re overly confident that all things ps4 is better than all things xbox one. you make laugh all the time, you must be kevin hart because you’re one funny dude.

  • Vious

    damn, it seems a lot of people don’t want to see halo 5 be a good game. why? I don’t know. maybe because they won’t get to play it? maybe because they wished it was an a different platform? maybe they’re just butthurt
    @mikesimssims:disqus *looking at you*

    • Mikesims Sims

      Cool strawman bro, enjoy your gimped $500 1.2tf, 16 rop, DDR3 beast GPU. Everyone else will be buying a PS4.

      • Vious

        no strawman here. its just clear you don’t really know what you’re talking about times.
        You made reference to the 1.2tf…..but failed to mention that its Double Precision
        you made reference to the 16rop but failed to mention that the xbox is clocked higher, both cpu and gpu and that it’s cpu does 48 ops per cycle
        you forgot to mention that the xbox one has dedicated special purpose chips built in which devs aren’t using yet.
        you mentioned ddr3 but but failed to mention that AMD’s new cards are going to be shipping with ddr3.
        I mean you act like mister know it all but you’re just a know nothng who regurgitate what other people says

        • Ian Williams

          Hear hear

        • Mikesims Sims

          LOL! We got a real live misterx’er here folks. Everyone point and laugh.

        • Psionicinversion

          It depends on how much of it is dbl precision… if all of it is then its fine but the 7xxx/8xxx runs at 1/4th dbl precision whereas the new r9 290/290x’s run at 1/8th dbl precision.

          So pends if they customised the GPU to run at full dbl precision i dunno if thats even possible tbh but i guess it must be

  • Kevin Smith

    How come the graphically inferior XB1 has the best looking launch games (RYSE, Forza 5)? You can circle jerk all you want regarding the last-gen sloppy ports like COD and TR DE, I don’t think most people are bothered with the minimal graphical differences especially considering the XB1′s current and “coming soon” library have more compelling games than the tired IP’s the PS4 is currently limited to. And I think therein lies the problem. When you don’t have any games worth playing, the best game you can play is the one where you compare extrapolated hardware specs that appear nowhere near as substantial of a difference compared to how they look on the blogospheric battleground.

    • tmservo

      I’m unsure of how this is valid about.. well, anything. TR:DE is a great game and isn’t a sloppy port on either platform. It’s solid on both the PS4 and the XB1. If you haven’t played it, I’d give it a try. Some of the best games I’ve played on both platforms won’t get the kind of attention others give them. I don’t care at all about COD/BF4/AC4 just not my kind of games. But XBOX1′s inclusion of easy to use XBOX Fitness is quite awesome, with instructional videos that are really solid and so many free. Don’t Starve on the PS4 is one of the most addictive games on either system so far; and my kids spend more time on the XB1 playing Peggle2 and Skylanders Swap Force than any other game. This is the thing about consoles. There are great games on all of them. Frankly, the best game I’ve played on any console new or old generation lately is SuperMario World 3D on the WiiU, but I get that “hardcore” gamers will dismiss it. I buy and support all the consoles because, well, I enjoy each of them differently. There are great fantastic games coming on both platforms that I really look forward to. I get that others like Ryse.. I thought it was pretty terrible, sold it at a loss about a week after buying it. But Forza5 is great. Then again, I love Top Gear, so that helps :)

      Enjoy what you enjoy. Seems ridiculous for PS4 fans or XB1 fans to waste all their time bashing each other

    • Mikesims Sims

      Multiplatform games are important, KZ is the most technically advanced game on either console.

      • Psionicinversion

        explain why its the most technically advanced and i dont want a copy and paste from an article i want your opinion on why?

        Why do i want this? cus i would like to know that you actually know anything about the stuff your talking about i will know if you have copied and pasted something cus itll actually use proper english, grammar and all the things associated with an intelligent person writing an article suitable for publication even on a webiste

        • Mikesims Sims

          LOL. Playing grammar nazi now? Look in a mirror.

          • Psionicinversion

            im not using grammar fair play but id know if you actually copy and pasted someat from a site like you always do

  • Marius

    Why do all u PS player care so much about the Xbox ??? Just play ur superior system which is better in everything and leave us alone with our box :D

    There must be any reason that you guys care so much about us. I guess it’s

    Post-purchase rationalization

    u guys insecure with ur console? If not stop talking and go play and leave Xbox users as happy as they are, pretty happy to be exactly

    • tmservo

      I own both. Like both for different reasons. Glad to see this news, though Halo isn’t a title I have a lot of interest in.

    • Mikesims Sims

      All you have to do is state the fact that it’s a 1.2tf gpu with memory and rop bottlenecks (without mentioning PS4 or PC at all) and the massive butthurt erupts from delusional idiots.

      • Psionicinversion

        how do you know 16 ROP’s are a bottleneck? are you an electrical enginerr? hardware architect? system architect? the only thing you know how to build is lego and even then i bet its not that good so why dont you shut up about something you know nothing about

        • Mikesims Sims

          LOL. Why not learn what a ROP is yourself? Delusional idiot.

          • Psionicinversion

            Just learned it in 1 minute… PS4 needs em cus its rendering full scenes at once. If the X1 is rendering tiles, i.e. the bits of the scene thats changing it doesnt need as many cus less data is being passed through it at the same time so less power is needed to end up with a final pixel or depth value

  • idunnooo

    Soo, ps4 fans like to swarm Xbone articles for what exactly? How is that benefiting anyone… I dunnooo

    • shinitaru

      Have you noticed that on the right of this page is a “Recent Comment” panel? I tend to reply to WHAT people say, not WHERE they say it…

      Does that clear it up for you? BTW what brings you to a site called Dualshockers anyway if you weren’t expecting to encounter a few Playstation fans?

  • Insaiyan

    You guys are crazy, all we need to know is that BOTH consoles need improvements to their OS, BOTH consoles play beautiful games and BOTH consoles were almost maxed by The Witcher 3. Yes both, sorry PS4 players.

    • Mikesims Sims

      Unless the PS4 version is gimped it will run Witcher 3 better.

  • FatMarshall

    Yet again, like always, Sonydrones ruin any form of Halo discussion. Shouldn’t you trolls be praising Last of Us on /v/ right now?

    • shinitaru

      Am I supposed to feel sorry for you? You guys do the exact same thing on every positive Playstation topic so don’t expect mercy on yours.

      BTW, I think TLoU sucks a$$

  • Crypt0117

    Ryse is arguably the best looking next gen game. I’m sure if they halved to polygon count on the characters, Crytek would have hit 1080p. Also the only next gen game in both single player and multiplayer is Forza 5, not bad for a launch title right? And on the side of things there is Knack 1080p at 30pfs but can drop into the teens. When it comes down to it should be about the games. And right now the Xbox One library is more diverse and satisfying.

    • Mikesims Sims

      Far more higher rated and ‘diverse’ games on metacritic for PS4.

  • asdfdsaf

    If my dog had a face like yours, I would shave it’s ass and teach it to walk backwards.

    Also, your mother chases ambulances.

    • Mikeherp Derp

      Very mature conversation going on.

  • RandomPasserby

    Most of the community on the site is damn near retarded and flat out embarrassing. Crazy bias and people attacking/provoking fanboys, obvious ones like “Mikeherp Derp” at that. His name is “Herp Derp”. Why fall for it and provoke his idiocy? lol. And even though he’s obviously biased garbage, who flat out attacks the xbox one and bullshits his way through arguments, he gets thumbs up to oblivion. This place is worst than N4G. I didn’t think it’d be possible to outdo N4G’s community, but lmao, here it is!
    First article read here, and never coming back to this embarrassment of a community.
    Bye.

    • shinitaru

      First article read here, and never coming back to this embarrassment of a community. Bye.

      We didn’t need another pretentious Xbot anyway. Thanks for taking out the trash, namely you…

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