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The Order: 1886, inFamous: Second Son and MLB 14: The Show Unveiled to the NA Media: Info Blowout Coming Soon

by on February 10, 2014 6:52 PM 81

Sony Computer Entertainment is currently hosting a media summit for the North American press in Santa Monica. In addition to the announcement of the upcoming release of the new and slimmer PS Vita and of the God of War and Sly Cooper Collections media attendees are getting to see something quite interesting.

According to the following schedule, uploaded on imgur and that we were able to confirm, the summit comes packed with behind closed doors, hands-off demos of The Order: 1886, MLB 14: The Show and inFAMOUS: Second Son. Sucker Punch’s upcoming game is also available with a hands-on demonstration.

Unfortunately all the information is currently under embargo, but like with the Press Tour for The Order: 1886 held last week in London we can expect a large blowout of information, previews and interviews on the games showcased by next week.

So far only Geoff Keighley uttered a word or two about what he saw today:

Really psyched by what I saw today from Infamous: Second Son. @SuckerPunchProd has definitely upped the ante with graphics for PS4.

Update: according to Marcus Beer the embargo for inFamous: Second Son will drop earlier, on Wednesday. Steve Noah reveals that MLB will be unveiled on Thursday, and we’ll get screenshots, video and a release date.

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  • delsin row

    so we dont count huh?please show us something!!

    • D’shawn

      On Feb 18th, the embargo lifts and Sony said to expect a new trailer that week. Game sites are also getting ready to drop previews and gameplay videos once the embargo lifts. Next week is gonna be a big one for ready at dawn. Can’t wait!

      • delsin row

        i Hope so dude ;)

      • Russell Gorall

        Or it won’t.

    • cozomel

      nah bro, you dont count. Im just kidding btw

  • Bankai

    I can’t wait any longer, I demand The Order this instant!

  • delsin row

    so in wednsday we can expect info and trailer of infamous : second son?

  • You are flat out wrong

    It’s time, SCE. Give us all the juicy deets.

  • Dakan45

    Can’t contain excitement… I’m itching for any kind of footage from 1886. I’m also curious to see how big of a step MLB 14 takes over MLB 13.

    • cozomel

      huh? what the…. you the dakan45 thats always hating on Sony? or you an imposter account?

      • Psionicinversion

        X1 is coming and is going to base rape the PS4, 1.2TF dbl precision, anyone knows anything about GCN you can work out how muchsingle precision and real TF its going be hang on to ya hats ladies DX 12 engine inbound maybe next year and driver updates delivering big performance boosts the futures bright the futures a gloating window

        • Gamez Rule

          “X1 is coming and is going to base rape the PS4″ … I see you’ve set aside this special time to humiliate yourself. Someday you’ll find yourself, and you will be just as disappointed as the rest of us☺

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah i always put time aside for that hahaha. I get bored easily hahah I like going against the status qou, for example if the architectures were reversed id be arguing the sony point of view… and yes i dont have much of a life at moe so need something to fill my time with :d

            would be good if it came out and surprised people though… maybe stuff on misterx site isnt right but some of it must be. Ya could always look at Kaveri see if the apparent AMD’s true HSA 3 level thing is there CPU+GPU+CC/H.CU then look at the figures it displays and try stack em up then might put some truth to it

            I think the cloud will be good for forzas drivatar stuff but as for improving gfx it wont work.

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can tell misterx is a paranoid schizophrenic lunatic that chases consoles instead of UFOs and ghosts.

          • albatrosMyster

            I measure my room temperature in Kelvin, in here nobody can tell if what misterx is saying is true or not!

          • Gamez Rule

            Kaveri= PC and shown to you before that it works differently to consoles hardware & architecture. You really need to stop comparing PCs to consoles when it comes to gaming imo.

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah bin reading some stuff on the PS4 yesterday and the way it all works is quite a bit different from the PC actually so yah its all good

          • Gamez Rule

            Hence why i was saying to you that just because a PC games needs a R9 290X doesn’t mean that PS4 needs that high hardware to play that game as consoles work differently to PC hardware☺

          • Gamez Rule

            “I think the cloud will be good for forzas drivatar stuff but as for improving gfx it wont work”….

            IF that Cloud was as good as MS made out they wouldn’t have needed to cut back on the game ( 200 cars from over 50 manufacturers with 14 circuits, a major cut back from Forza 4 that had approximately 500 cars with over 80 manufacturers and 27 circuits.)

            IF that cloud was good then Forza 5 would be a true 1080p at 60fps game but it’s not as Forza 5 is 1080p at 60fps in gameplay BUT the whole game is not 60fps as the game switches to 30fps during its rolling pre-race sequences, as well as reflective surfaces are only operating at half the game’s typical refresh when under load, which brings the 60fps down to 30fps, including the rear and side-view mirrors☺

          • slumdog hundredaire

            But I like the GAMES coming out for the X1? Can you accept that? This is not to say a bad thing about the excellent PS4.

          • extermin8or2

            ^accepting that and listening to the moronic drivel the other guy was spouting are VERY different things.

          • Gamez Rule

            Yeah I can accept that, I just bought my brother a Xbone game, but he even knows that PS4 is just the better console for developers & hardware. Just wish others accepted that too☺

          • Psionicinversion

            Oh and the medium to highish setting for SC was with console optimization the 270x which is what is similar to PS4 would only manage low at 1080p i reckon so i think if they had optimisation that double the TF rate to about 4TF’s still might be not be enough to run high comfortably, if it did, minimal levels of antialiasing.

            I think my 280x would run all the games coming out on PS4 this year and next fairly well, and the 780Ti destroys my gfx card its that powerful which is recommeded for maxing it on very high settings (it goes low medium high very high) so as long as they dont hold back the incredible amounts of detailing just so the PS4 can chime in with mine looks good to, im not bothered

        • vcarvega

          Riiiight… because you know more than the dozens of developers that have already had their hands on both systems and already stated that the PS4 is more powerful.

          • slumdog hundredaire

            Yep, the PS4 is more powerful. But for me at least, the X1 has better games for 2014.

          • Gamez Rule

            ( Sony announced over 100 games coming to PS4 ) but IF someone wants a game that’s only on Xbone they have a choice. Buy the console for that game OR leave it and enjoy other games, OR play them on PC as that’s what Xbone exclusives seem to be at the moment, just like Titanfall.

          • Psionicinversion

            I do actually cus the tea leaves tell me!!

            I dont really care, as long as Star Citizen doesnt make any compromises with the PS4 coming im not bothered

        • Mikeherp Derp

          Get the insane, dumb misterxtard out of here, please.

          • Psionicinversion

            hey special people need a place to hang out to, i mean isnt that why your here???

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Just here to poke fun at the misterx’ers.

          • Psionicinversion

            Whose Misterx? does MisterS (the sony version) claim that the console is 60fps just cus it hits it 1 time when it looks at a wall not even a good wall just a plain old boring nothing happening wall?

          • Mikeherp Derp

            There’s no equivalent to misterx, he’s “special”.

          • Psionicinversion

            wow are you misterx then? youve got be, you know the truth about the X1 but like the PS4 to much so you developed an alter ego to tear apart the xbox loving base and to spread fud about it whilst trying to elevate the PS4 into god status

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Misterx and “insider” are the same person so you’re on to something.

          • albatrosMyster

            Well, in this version, he would be out there explaining that his insider (Yosh disguised as Crash Bandicoot meet him in a park to tell him the information) is revealing the following secret tech:
            1 – Sony cloud based on Cell CPUs to boost the PS4s AI and give automatic 1080p 60fps hosted in a special data center right on the South pole, maintained by Sony trained Sys Admin Pinguins.. it does not even require internet as it’s teleporting bits directly in your PS4′s RAM using quantum tunneling! (only works for PS4 owners in late 2014)
            2 – The PS4 was named PS4 because it actually has 4 GPUs that need time to unlock, this be because they are the first real Emotion engine, based on living cells, most will reach maturity in about 2 or 3 years time, but you will need to pour water and additives in the vents at the back of the PS4 for it to grow, also, do not forget to pet the machine on the blue light bar, if it’s off for more than 22 minutes it may die or become retarded… if you frustrate it it could start cheating in games to make you loose, or delete all your trophies! (the PS4 warranty covers counselling for the machine if it becomes sad and does not perform, look at section 4.1.2 for proof and source of the original leak!)

            I hope this clarifies the situation and set expectations high for the future!

          • Psionicinversion

            I think they should use some of that cell powered AI to try figure out why there business is failing and making billion $ losses!!

          • albatrosMyster

            let’s put that in perspective shall we, let’s take Apple as an example, back in 1999 they were on the brink, were in a dire situation, the Macs were pretty much extinct and there was no apparent product they would release to bring success back… They introduced the iMac line, then the iPod, eventually it led to the iPhone and iPad… nobody is talking about Apple’s doom anymore.

            Now for Sony, the gaming division is making good money, their Android phones are doing well, their Cameras are still pretty neat and the company is bringing in over 80 Billion$ in revenue with a 1 Billion $ deficit and over 140 000 employees… they’re cutting the older parts of the business that are no longer profitable, Playstation is not one of them…

            No matter what happens to Sony, someone will want to take over the PS4 business and make money with it, I’m not worried about that platform’s future…

            Now, even if the Xbox One All In One Entertainment System On Input One was the only new console, I would not buy it, I don’t like what MS is offering, it’s not enough of a jump over the consoles we already had and the way they run their business just stink for their clients, I don’t play MP and they do not offer a reasonable incentive to get Gold other than paying to run the apps, game demos and internet explorer on it, that’s robbery… no way I’m buying into this! this along with the paymium approach to ALL the first party titles, they’re worse than EA, which is saying something… so, if this is the future, I will just keep my old consoles.

          • Psionicinversion

            Well apple went to the brink and then Microsoft bailed them out so they didnt just magically recover

            $80billion in revenue is good but how much is profit? if there losing money theyll keep having to start selling off parts of the company which is why theyve just sold off there PC business cus it wasnt profitable actually there tablet and smartphone are just breaking even, there splitting off there TV into its own company i think so whether its doing “well” is up for debate.

            Tbh if sony was going to crash i bet you MS would bail them out just to have competition in the market place so yeah it would always be fine

          • Gamez Rule

            You wouldn’t be alone in keeping the older consoles, that’s for sure.

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Crash was a pretty cool game.

          • Gamez Rule

            ROFLMAO! ☺☺☺

        • albatrosMyster

          I wonder how long after the release of the Xbox One All In One Entertainment System On Input One we will ear that sort of thing?

          The games on the xb1 will never look much better than Ryse, if they target graphics with a lot of bells and whistles and small environments… and Forza 5 if they target 1080p 60fps… which is not very impressive if you compare the image quality of their PS4s counterparts… multi platform titles will always have some kind of benefits on the PS4.

          if MS had any kind of technical advantage they would be all over the place pushing it or hinting at it, they would not come at us with lame excuses like: 720p 30fps is enough, what counts is fun, you will not see the difference, we have a magic scaler chip, cloud will help… driver updates will make things better (maybe they will, but once you reached the top of the mountain you can’t climb any further).

          • Psionicinversion

            i think theyll be able do ryse level gfx at 1080p on a bigger scale in the future, better drivers, faster more efficient SDK’s etc ya just dont know cus the eSRAM is a pain to work with so sonys approach is getting big results straight away but pends if there is actually much more improvement they can make.

            If the games there releasing now still arent maxing the system then sounds like its a clever ploy to do graphical scaling in games. like telling them to purposely not max it out so that it looks like games are getting better in the future. Fair enough launch titles dont count so much but like the order and witcher and that should be maxing it. actually the order should be maxing the system seeing as its only running at 30fps whether it is 800p or a 1080p 21:9 wide angle view (which would account for the black bars) which should mean theyve upped the detail to drop the frames to about 30, or its just not optimised as well to get the best out of it yet but needless to say theres more to come from both consoles.

            For the X1 apparently Halo will be the showcase, cant see MS letting that get released without it trying to show off the absolute best of the system. So could be delayed give em time to get everything sorted and using the console at its best. Then you can see more which could be better or better comparison best today first party vs first party that way the games are designed explicitly for that system. Hmmm… i think the X1 is going to own in the end

          • Gamez Rule

            exactly☺

      • Dakan45

        I’m an imposter. I’m trolling the Sony-hater dakan45 for the laughs.

        • Psionicinversion

          itll only work if he knows about it really so go troll some of his comments

          • Dakan45

            Oh, he knows about it already. He’s been banned from many sites including this one, so the trolling is best when I post comments on sites where he can’t do a thing with what I say.

          • Psionicinversion

            ah ok fair enough haha

  • YOUDIEMOFO

    I’m all in……

  • mad games

    I am so exited about it. I hope ps4 has more games in 2014 from sony

  • mikeslemonadeFromN4G

    Baseball is lame it’s all about the NBA and NFL.

    • Boerewors

      What you see here folks is someone not being a true American…. Why don’t you go play some soccer with your hand purse carrying BFFs in Europe?
      Nah j/k… I like the MLB tho.

      • KIRBYdaDOG

        NFL and NHL are the only good sports. Other ones are for sissygirls.

        • Boerewors

          Your not familiar with rugby I notice. Put a helmet and some paddings on a rugby player and you have an American Footballer. Take away the helmet from an American footballer and put him on a rugby field and you’ve got a grown, 300lbs. man crying and begging for mercy.

  • Vious

    So once again…….Sony is controlling the review/news with hand picked reporters?
    Didn’t they do this before the console was launched?

    • Giuseppe Nelva

      I’m not sure about what you expect. That’s what all publishers do. They can’t exactly say “hey, we’re having a press event, do drop by if you wanna, we’ll let everyone in.”

      • Russell Gorall

        This is the type of statement I would expect from you.

    • ImonadrugcalledCharlieSheen

      There’s a big difference between dev’s embargoing information on incomplete games, which is whats happening here, vs. Microsoft placing embargoes on information and reviews for games right up until the day, and sometimes days after, they are released. And for the record, Geoff Keighley is not employed by and has nothing to do with Sony.

  • albatrosMyster

    That’s two potentially generation defining titles right there, I have high hopes for the Order 1886 and well, I don’t like that guy’s face in Infamous, but the game looks good enough, I may end up buying it anyway… it looks really great, and neither could be mistaken for a PS360 game.

    • Russell Gorall

      I have higher hopes for The Order. Man, you are really stretching by calling a franchise game and a game with zero gameplay seen as “generation defining”.

      • albatrosMyster

        I said it in a conditional manner, it could well be, the little we have heard from it seem to get people pretty excited, which is always a good sign… and the game has character, at least by the look of it, it looks like nothing we have seen before (there are not many games set in Victorian London… certainly none that comes to my mind easily).

        I don’t expect it to re-invent everything, but I want it to have its own feel when I play it later this year.

        So obviously, by being so excited, I am setting myself up for disappointment!

    • Psionicinversion

      the order is not generation defining at all because its the same old thing rehashed slapped on a new face new story different setting than other stuff.

      If you mean generation defining for the PS4 then doesnt give anyone high hopes for the future if the best is abut to hit the shelf

      • albatrosMyster

        Tell me please, what kind of special revolution do you expect in an action game in 2014? Mechs? Double jumps with a jetpack? Network play with a dedicated server to control the AIs?

        Or something we saw in an indie title recently? So far all video gaming related advancement has been somewhat linear, first we had games that were mostly on one screen, characters started jumping and looking more realistic, a bit more colors, screens started moving in all directions, then you got exploration games, stealth games, puzzle games, platformers, fighting, RPG, strategy, simulations, along variations on the themes and mix match of all these.

        Then we got rehashes in 3D when 3D became possible, since Super Mario 64 3rd person games added guns, the second stick… sometimes the camera is directly behind the gun instead of the protagonist, this is for first person shooters…

        So yeah, like movies, there are no ground breaking games happening, at best they feel fresh and fun do something new, but never everything new. A great will let you experience new feelings and tell you a better story or interact/kill with others in a new/more interesting way… but even indie titles like Outlast, Journey, Guacamelee, etc. are not that innovative according to your standard (unless inovation is no weapon, or combo attacks…).

        Please point me to a game that truly innovated in the last 10 years? I will find what they copied…

        • Psionicinversion

          none really… thinking about titanfall and i dont think its going to be particularly good.

          Star Citizen will be generation defining… havnt said anything about innovation, you said generation defining… the order doubtful it will be. If there talking about how great the order is years after release and comparing the games that are out with that then yeah, if its moved onto another game with the same formula and is mostly forgot then no its not

          • albatrosMyster

            I think the Order and Infamous will be what pops up in people’s head when they think of the PS4, like Titanfall is on the xb1..

            Star Citizen seems to be a pay2play/pay to win game, much like Warframe, but in space… a game made in that model is scratched off my list of games to play before I even look into the details of it, I want gaming, not gambling.

          • Psionicinversion

            Its not pay to play or pay to win… you buy the game then can game for free, no microtransactions or anything. There are ships available to buy now but thats only to fund the game and the ship selection on offer is small compared to what will be in the game to start with. The ships you buy have standard equipment fitted. Hes said every ship available to buy you can get within 60 hours of game play, i assume thats making money not faffing about with stuff. Soon as the game is released all ships will be taken off the site to buy…. you cant buy ships, weapons, equipment etc with real money.

            The only thing you can buy are credits, which have a cap per month and vanity items. Those are there to buy if people want and to help keep the game alive.

            Its got insane levels of detailing, upto 4K native res (if you have the power!), everything has a function. If a panel or button (at least in the ships) have no function and were there they get removed from the game. You fly in first person with amazing HUD details, pilot ships using real skill, can board other ships and take over and capture them, can capture space stations by say a transporter docking with it (probably after a fire fight) you have your corp in the cargo bay, you dock blow the airlock… and storm it FPS style. The biggest prize in the game is the bengal supercarrier from the UEE navy, i think there are only 3 at any one time and they cannot be built. When in flight you can rotate your shields in a direction to defend, probably rebalance power systems, can take a ship apart piece by piece from the small metal plates on the wing to blowing off the wings, diasbling/taking out engines (best way to capture that ship), you can take out the manouvering thrusters so the enemies ship has less manouvering ability. Its going to be incredible

            Can explore jump points to find new systems, explore planets, in not sure at release but in future update you can build/capture manufacturing posts etc outside of UEE space. You can do anything merchantman, pirate, work for the military etc whatever you want… lots of play styles

            It supports almost every control input under the sun… KB/mouse, joystick, HOTAS, game controller, fully supports Occulus Rift

            All that from 1 game studio from initial idea and programming, trying to raise funds, no publishers involved (CR has turned them all down cus he doesnt need there money), there might of bin a few investrs at the very start putting in a small amount hopefully to completion in 4 years….

            Look at the pile of rubbish that CoD is 3 years to make the sam egame over and over… SC generation defining… its how a game is supposed to be made!!

          • albatrosMyster

            well, it seemed to me that they sell you ships, a bigger ship if you chip in more.. and you start with a couple of star credits (in game money I imagine…) then hull warranty, I would imagine that means it means that ships need to be repaired, with star credits… that you can buy with real money… the that would mean that the game is run like a racket, not like a game should be.

            IF I was an MMO player, I would much rather take an MMO that charges me a specific price per month and let me get everything else according to the time/skills I put into the game… or a regular buy once and play as much as you want (like GTA V, but in space…).

            Because of all this, I could not care less about any other aspect of it, having the ability to run a game in 4K on PC is nothing special, most game detect the available resolutions and you can set it as such, it’s better on modern games because they have better textures and you get the most out of it, but older titles like Quake can do it if you are willing to get your hands dirty (obviously the quality of the assets make the point of the experience questionable).

            I think an MMO of that type would is better served on PC, depending how complex it is… it may have to be toned down in scope for consoles, anyway MMOs have been on consoles at least since Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast (well, it was not that massive I guess) and I don’t think they qualify as generation defining games, here is a list for each sytems (they may not be the best, they’re just early games that people strongly associate with a machine).

            I think for a game to be generation defining it has to set people’s imagination on fire and hyped about the new machines, so far on PlayStation machines it has been more about variety than a single strong license coming up, I think the Order or Infamous will be the first examples of this on the PS4 (assuming they don’t crash in some way)… I’m not an MMO player and never heard of Star Citizen, it may have an impact on PC, this is where I would play it, on consoles, I doubt it.. and MS are pushing Titanfall for it to be the definition of what’s an xbox game, which will certainly get the attention of many gamers…

          • Gamez Rule

            “”"Its not pay to play or pay to win… you buy the game then can game for free, no microtransactions or anything. Soon as the game is released all ships will be taken off the site to buy…. you cant buy ships, weapons, equipment etc with real money.”"”

            Six days ago ( as you know ) Roberts stated ( if you don’t have the time to play it and want to do something else, we can allow you to buy some credits with real money but we’re going to sort of cap that on a monthly basis ) So yes you CAN buy ships, weapons, equipment etc with real money☺ ( Just like games on PS3 )

            He also said ( people may want to fly fancy spaceships and not want to spend the time earning the credits to buy it. They’ll buy some credits and fly a spaceship that way. So basically, you have to pay with either time or money )☺

            He also said ( I’d say the Xbox One can be used for sort of kind of TV or non-gamey stuff and the PS4 is the better gaming machine ) having Star Citizen on, say, PS4 isn’t really any different from putting it on Steam Box. So really it’s about the ability to update our community…People playing in the same universe to all the things traditionally that the platform holders in the console space haven’t let people do. If they change that, then we’ll definitely consider being on the next gen consoles as well.

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah i know thats what i said you can buy credits but its probably a small amount, youd prolly have to save up for months to buy say an idris with ingame credits but the point is you cant go on the site and buy an F7C hornet, constellation, freelancer, idris, Ghost with real money….. you cant buy reactor plant upgrades, weapons directly with real money… without knowing how much the credits are atm you can buy 20,000 credits for $20 if thats the cap in the game per month how do you know say the RSI Aurora isnt 150,000 credits??? if the cap is 75,000 credits per month thats 2 months and the Aurora isnt even that good of a combat ship.

            Instead of trying to talk fud about something you havnt been following, i pledged this months ago and am following alot of stuff why not go and read stuff on it from the actual site not what some dumb article says. Also steam boxes are upgradeable, you can replace everything so power can increase when you want it to and isnt fixed hardware

          • Gamez Rule

            You can buy credits with real money but it’s going to sort of cap that on a monthly basis ( so yes you could buy whatever you like in game ( same as you would get it playing the game ) DUST 514 does this to players. I do know what’s going on about SC as i have also been waiting for the release, and you can’t say ( i’m talking fud ) as i have quoted ROBERTS himself☺

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah but the way your saying it, it could be taken as a moderate p2w but it isn’t really cus you could have your ship buy credits equip it with al the best gear but you have to have the skill to fly your ship otherwise someone could come along in a lesser equipped ship and destroy it losing all the weapons you’ve just bought with real money. I that respect its like eve, a sense of proper loss if you lose ya stuff. Same as a constellation, equip it with good stuff a group of pirates comes at ya and ya could have ya ship destroyed or captured taken over and stolen. So its a grey area cus its not like planetside, by a gun with real money and it for life.

          • Gamez Rule

            Star Citizen is free 2 play with paid content which also brings that to ( pay 2 play ) for some people. Just like DUST 514 on PS3 ( apart from you don’t have to buy the game as it’s totally free ) unlike SC☺

          • Psionicinversion

            well you buy the game then is free for life if you want, if there’s expansion packs type updates its free and dont have to spend any more moneyat all if you dont want to. That’s his plan anyway.
            With the credits thing sure you can use it to buy ships but the bigger ships would prolly have a value equual to 1,2,3,4 months of just buying credits pending on size to get them so although you can just buy credits its going to be stacked with an equivalent amount of time in game an average person would take to make those credits.. You could earn and buy credits of course but for me that satisfaction would be greater destroying that ship wasting his time and money tbh

          • Gamez Rule

            Either way Star Citizen is free 2 play with paid content which also brings that to ( pay 2 play ) for some people

          • Psionicinversion

            I think these terms are getting skewed now and perceptions changed on what it is. Remember when free to play used to mean free to play… not free to play, put in big time sinks in the hopes you spend 10x the cost of the game that youd usually pay on stupid little beans or gems etc.

            Albatros thinks SC is pay to win, SC isnt pay to win just because you can buy credits on the site doesnt mean anything and actually helps to control the game because if the game has a big enough user base credit miners will come in and same as every other MMO out there will be able to buy credits on the internet. This way by attatching a monetary value to an amount of credits will help to control, at least initial exploitation, of possibly high prices till credit miner competition comes in.

            Also if people buy directly from CIG then it helps to support the game and not supporting some credit mining workhouse in china forcing them to game for 18-20 hours a day for next to nothing lining the pockets of the people who set it up. So it helps everyone really

            Also when you transfer credits to a different account i think a 10% charge is taken from the amount transferred.

            Lots of people will play like normal and not use credits as flash cash and earn there ships/equipment… ill buy an amount of credits/vanity items each month to the value of a reasonable subscription (cus you cant subscribe even if you want to) just to support the game and keep it going. Maybe about £10 worth

          • Gamez Rule

            You said that you’ll have to buy the game first ( = not free to play )

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah i know, wasnt talking about that was talking about free to play in general

          • Gamez Rule

            “Star Citizen will be generation defining”….Erm it’s just a PC Space Sim that looks good. Not exactly generation defining tho is it. It’s not like we haven’t had space flight simulator games on PC before is it☺

          • Psionicinversion

            Yeah i know hahaha but its a good example of how a game is supposed to be done… its straight up CR’s alley cus he did Wing Commander and Freelancer think Privateer was made by his brother or someat like that…. and there isnt really much competition in the space sim game genre thats really compelling,

            Eve was brilliant when it came out but its still good although i stopped playing a while back but we need something new and refreshing to grab our attention and most of the games coming out on PC X1 and PS4 are all to familiar and its all going with the genres that appeal to mass market and although the gfx, location and story are different generally there all the same game.

            I think the main thing with SC is that you get an absolutely gorgeous game, comes with a hmm cant remember maybe 50 mission single player (i think its pretty big considering the main focus after that is in the MMO world) that directly affects the types of standing you have in the Persistent Universe and completing this makes you a umm citizen kind of like Starship Troopers you join the military for a bit and become a citizen of your planet…. amazing details, the game is designed so you can have fun whether you only have 3 hours a week or 20 hours a week to play theres lots of different things you can do and giving you that “winning” feeling. CR’s words kind of like people in the real world have different definitions of winning like being a good teacher, good athlete, good bartender, etc its designed to give you that feeling whatever you want to do.

            Theres a competition atm where teams from around the globe are competing to eventually build a starship that will actually be in the game so its really community focused to so you feel like your contributing and some of the designs for the weapons atm (thats the first stage design a weapon for sakura sun) are absolutely stunning, better than alot of stuff ive seen in many games. CR has a spot called 10 for the chairman where he answers 10 questions hes picked out every week. They keep in touch with the community alot, theyve done an offical poll to see who would want a an input method specifically designed for Star Citizen atm HOTAS is winning by a mile so if theres enough intertest they may have a custom HOTAS built for us to buy also the poll includes which make we want (saitek CH Thrustmaster etc) and whether we want it specifically for SC or so its compatible with other games, most have put SC only cus i thnk alot of other people will already have a HOTAS setup anyway.

            I think its generation defining because its showing that you dont have to sacrifice something, you can have everything… ok sure for someone who hates space sims ya they wont like it but if you see it on a technical view point and as a concept you can have everything and not skimp on quality… they sure as hell arent skimping on the power to run it lol… not even skimping on gfx or especially size so an abacus from ancient greece can run it *cough* Sim City *cough*

            Thats why i think its generation defining… hopefully itll lead a generation of games that doesnt have to skimp on something to push it out the door quicker, like EA and Battlefield 4 and to show that people will wait for that special game. People would of waited 2-3 months to get a finished game, people who play Battlefield would of still bought it anyway EA dont get that and want to $$$ and theyll still push DLC out whether the main game is properly stable or not.

            Even if SC is say delayed till 2016, CR will not release the game before its ready (which is good cus better hardware might be out in the mean time/prices reduced) :D and thats one of the main things were backing a feature complete game that doesnt crash 5 minutes after loading or unable to actually log in to the game like sim city, CoD was unplayable till they released a patch for PC it was a joke. This game is worth waiting for its pretty long winded but thats why

  • Russell Gorall

    Some people get to see it, and not me?

    HURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Guy Brohski

    Meh, these games look okay I guess..

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