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PS4: Info on Future Reveals and First Party Studios Working on the Console Given by Sony Employee

by on February 25, 2014 7:59 AM 127

Sony Computer Entertainment has been keeping the lid on its work-in-progress PS4 projects and upcoming announcements, and we still don’t know what many of the teams working for the house of PlayStation are currently working on. NeoGAF user and insider DemonNite, who is known to work for Sony even if his identity is a well-kept secret, provided more information and teasing about what’s happening behind closed doors:

First of all, he mentioned that morale is high internally, and everyone has high hopes for the new generation:

I think the future looks great. Everyone is happy and all have high hopes about the new generation : D

Another NeoGAF user listed the announcements he’d like to see at E3 and at Tokyo Game Show:

  • Deep Down further push
  • Sony Santa Monica new IP
  • Guerilla new IP / some new IP from Japan
  • Naughty Dog Uncharted further reveal
  • Driveclub reintroduction
  • Sony Bend / Sony London some reveal
  • Some more details on The Order 1886
  • More details on some of the smaller games such as Rime/Shadow of the Beast.

The user also specified: “I’ll be okay with 1 maybe 2 missing out but no less than 6 of those 8 options.”

DemonNite quoted the list above and answered:

I dont know the final lineup, but leading up to E3 and perhaps at E3, there is a good chance you’ll be happy.

While the answer was teasing and somewhat cryptic, it was also quite promising. After that, he moved on to give further info on just how many studios are working on the console:

That’s a tough one to answer by me. There are MANY teams from the development side alone. Most (all?) studios will have at least another team doing something right now away from the main team. Larger studios will have more than that. One studio for example has 5+ teams on PS4 : )

He then specified that he’s talking only about the western arms of the company:

I wasn’t talking about Japan (not to say they also don’t have a few teams internally on the development side). As I said… many are on PS4 right now so putting a number on it is difficult at best : )

Looks like PS4 owners are in for a few surprises down the line. Counting that one studio has a whole five teams on PS4 (possibly Sony Santa Monica, considering its size and relevance, but this is just my personal speculation), and that there are many more most of which have at least two teams at work, it’s not hard to imagine that a whole lot of games are in development at Sony Worldwide Studios. That’s an exciting perspective, to say the least.

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  • Psionicinversion

    take the order 1886, see the visuals and thats the max itll ever be for the life of the PS4 cus theyve pretty much maxed the system already… btw i highly doubt gameplay will be the same as the cutscenes cus if the cutscenes are already getting frame drops doesnt bode well for the actual gameplay

    • jujubee88
      • Psionicinversion

        hahaha thats funny :d

      • Steph

        Lol that was cute

    • Lemondish

      The game won’t be our for another 8 months and you’re complaining about performance from barely 20 seconds of new gameplay footage? I don’t feel you’re being rational here. I mean, it’s okay to not like the game based on its style (if you dislike tps) or setting (if steampunk Victorian London isn’t your thing), but don’t try to extrapolate bad performance from that.

      Also, I have a very strong feeling you’ll be eating crow each time a new title releases with better looking visuals.

      • Psionicinversion

        i doubt it, you have to remember the PS4 is easy to develop for which means easy to get the best out of it straight away, it wont be like the PS3 where they got better over the years cus the architecture is relatively simple compared to the Cell. Also its limited by the hardware the PS3 and X360 where extremely powerful at launch this time its more middle of the road. You cant bypass a hard hardware limitation with software. The Order, infamous, witcher 3 all very visually demanding games are 30fps for a reason… the PS4 cant render more than that. To get better visuals you have to sacrifice someat and there already on the 30 fps min limit for acceptable fps and this is with engines designed for the PS4. They may be able to optimise and squeeze a little more out but dont expect it to change much. btw deep down with 60fps isnt hard to do with small environments and textures that can be stored copied and used over and over again (i watched the gameplay from a japanese show) gameplay looks alright, i think if it gets into open areas like assassins creed which some have kind of compared it to then that frame rate is going to tank, then lod scaling to keep the frame rate reasonable

        • Jason Brody

          Dude why are you such a hater? Have you developed a game for PS4 before? If not then how can you know what it’s capable of? Even if the Order was the max graphically it can do that doesn’t make it a bad thing. The game looks great and just like the guy above said you can’t possibly be basing your argument on a early build that lasted less than a minute and won’t be out until later this year. As for the fps the PS4 is more than capable but like all new hardware initially it takes developers time to really come to grips with the tech. Same goes for Xbox One, people are in panic attack saying it can only do 720p and 30fps but I can almost gauruntee by mid next year they will have plenty of games running at 1080p 30fps. Everyone is just so damn impatient, give these 3 month old consoles a chance to get their feet wet.

          • Terramax

            I guy speaks logically, and he gets someone convicting him of being a ‘hater’ :/

          • shinitaru

            Just because it is feasible, doesn’t make it logical or true. It’s only supposition base on opinion but presents it like he really knows what he’s talking about. You may be right, he may not be a hater, merely full of shit

          • Psionicinversion

            thanks tried to explain it more have a read see if it makes sense to you, i have bashed the PS4 alot but this is written how it actually is

          • Psionicinversion

            Ok ill give you an example you can relate and ill use the PC as the example cus its the most relevant in showing you.

            Lets take a fairly recent new game that ive played say Battlefield 4. Forget the optimised or unoptimised nature cus itll affect all cards in general so its still valid.

            PC has settings to match all levels of graphics cards and well use 1080p as the resolution even though consoles ran at 900p, could be down to unoptimised consoles but its not relevant.

            say you have a mid range graphics card (the best example also the actual GPU in the PS4 is mid range)… its not good enough to have maximum details and 60+fps so you have to sacrifice something. So lets say your doing multiplayer fps you need 45-60 fps to be smooth cus it matters when other players are around but you also want a good level of detail, essentially you could start off low details then bring the details up high till it stabilizes prolly around the 55 fps mark (help protect from frame drops into 10,20 etc) so you can have a good framerate but the detailing is sacrificed.

            If you want to go the higher detail route, to get the higher detail you are going have to sacrifice framerate cus its not capable of doing both. So you could start at maximum detail (for example) then lower the detailing till framerate rises to 30 ish fps then youve got the best details you can get but at a cost of having it run at 30fps, rpgs and stuff like order, witcher etc will run perfectly fine at 30.

            This is what is happening with the PS4 yes i know its faster than $400 PC’s but thats not the point, it is NOT a powerhouse and sacrifices have to be made. Killzone is a good example high detailing 30-45 fps, then multiplayer lower details to get 45-60 in multiplayer and its what will happen. If they do optimise more they could choose to keep the same details as order and try push for higher framerate OR increase the detailing keep the same 30 fps. This gen will be all about compromises.

            Will the games look great, yes…. will the games play great, yes but theres only so much you can do with the hardware inside and thats it. Long post but seems to be needed to get the point across!!

          • Gamez Rule

            You cannot compare PC hardware to console hardware. You know this to be the case.

            Example = PS3 is playing BF4 on a VERY low end GPU that’s only using 256MB of GDDR3 RAM. Yet it’s able to play it better than what ANY PC could play it ( IF a PC was only using 256MB GPU and 256MB System RAM ) This is why I have stated before ( Developers work wonders on consoles due to static hardware ) but on PC they cannot do this.

          • Gamez Rule

            ADDED TO POST..Here’s BF3 PC REQ-

            See, you need twice the RAM and twice the GPU RAM, as well as having a higher GPU

          • Psionicinversion

            bah ok, think ill just go back to trolling PS4 comments lol. But the frostbite 3 engine is designed to scale from smartphone chips to 8 core processors so thats prolly got someat to do with it

            Btw took my 280x toxic back for the 3rd time today apparently problems with ATI R9 series atm although cus theyve sold alot with the stupid litecoin miners they cant say if its big or not, might be switching to the green team next year

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Nvidia is worth the price premium. Better drivers and more reliable hardware.

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah well nvidia drivers are hit and miss tbh, entire sections of updates can screw up certain cards some can be really good while some can totally turn them to rubbish, think its why they release so many. but yeah the new maxwell stuff looks very promising so may pick up a 880 when there released 4Q 2014/1Q 2015. will be at least 25% performace boost over kepler when the cards are match for match with CUDA cores

          • Mikeherp Derp

            GTX 880 will be godlike. 22nm, super quiet and cool, 20-30% more power than a 780, etc.

          • Psionicinversion

            20nm actually :d. ive read that 128 CUDA cores has 90% of the power as 192 so i worked 25% out as 192 – 10% = aprox 173. with guestimation 128 / 3 = approx 42, add it to 128 = 170… 25% more power

            so 25% more power at the CUDA core level, coupled with faster more efficient architecture 50% less power consumption > less heat > could be able to achieve higher core clocks maybe even shader clocks to which would own > overclocking potential greatly increased (maybe pends how the chips handle it) so the performance increase could be much higher over kepler with extra factors… a 2880 SMM, 880 Titan would have the performance of a 3600 core kepler card :D:D

          • Gamez Rule

            I’m still using the HD 7990. I know it’s loud, but it’s good☺

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah i use overclockers cus its literally 2 minutes from my house lol, yeah 7xxx completely fine think its mainly sapphire or at least 280x toxics, get a kind of QR code / checkered flag in middle of my screen then the screen goes nuts on a game… i nicknamed it the Toxic Epileptic edition cus that thing will cause some seizures!!! 290′s/290x’s non reference stuff not fairing to well either

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Still lots of room to optimize.

          • Gamez Rule

            Look at heavenly sword http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVBzU_a-EvU ( a launch PS3 title )

            Now IMO that’s a really good game for it’s age, but now look at God of war ascension http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIRLOwOB5I ( a late PS3 title )

            100% GoWa is better. So why people think PS4s visual are at max is beyond me.☺

          • Psionicinversion

            i dunno maybe im wrong but the 360 and PS3′s GPU capabilites far surpassed that of any PC at the time. they were very powerful now its not powerful but the way the system is made with is it garlic and onion buses or someat i have read and do agree it does add alot more power to the system and the way its setup can alleviate alot of problems but the factor still remains the computational power of the PS4 is still quite limited compared to the previous generation, thats what im touching on with the subject

          • Gamez Rule

            You are still missing the point. Here’s a question for you..

            Could you run Battlefield 3 on a PC ( same quality as PS3 ) IF your PC only used 256MB system RAM, and a very low end GPU with only 256MB GDDR3 RAM while using an old OS?

            See the answer is no. Hence why I stated you cannot compare consoles to PCs as they are similar, but not the same.

          • Psionicinversion

            ummm prolly not no. ok ill concede to your point but ive got very good memory so in 4 years time if theres no big improvements ill come back, hunt you down and say ya see i was right :d

          • Gamez Rule

            ☺ Well we shall see then.

          • Psionicinversion

            im hoping to be gaming in 4k by then well thats if SC survives which it should do game plan is, 880 next year for SC, then 2016 full upgrade cus DDR4 should be reasonable and be on at least gen 2 MB’s + chipsets and then 2017-2108 second 880 or sell it and get 2x 980′s or higher + 4K screen

            or have kids and have no life and no money!!!!

          • Gamez Rule

            Just get a 4k TV and a 7990 and you’ll have no worries.

          • Psionicinversion

            i rckn single 880 will be 75% of the performance odf the 7990, lots cheper power req lower and will own in every way,… wel take 7990 then new maxwell can match power on a single core at half the watt rate so dual 880′s are going to be abosl;utle inasane

          • Gamez Rule

            Well the HD 7990 out does the 780TI / 29 290x when it come to 4k gaming, look at BF4 here ( http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/27/battlefield-4-performance-analysis/6 )

          • Psionicinversion

            well it prolly will do cus its 2x high end cores on the same board, im not that stupid. but the 880′s will close that gap by ALOT on a single GPU guaranteed

            oh the 780ti beaten by 290x is redicuous i love AMD GPU but no that becnahmark is complete crap

          • Gamez Rule

            http://www.hwcompare.com/16369/geforce-gtx-780-ti-vs-radeon-r9-290x/

            The R9 290x beats the 780Ti at high resolutions, and at 4K it is a beast☺
            Also look here ( http://www.anandtech.com/show/7492/the-geforce-gtx-780-ti-review )

            You’ll see the higher res the R920x rises?

          • Psionicinversion

            ah nice, that’s good. The 4GB will prolly help at 4K but yah its good. Good that cheaper card is beating it if it keeps going like that NVIDIA may have to realise it cant charge £600 for a card

          • Gamez Rule

            well my GPU has 6GB, while the new R9 290x has 8GB, so they are getting bigger and better.

          • Psionicinversion

            well the 7990 hasnt actually got 6GB i dont think. Seeing as its basically xfired on a card each GPU will have 3GB ram each then the data gets copied to the other 3GB so technically its still only 3GB.

            the 290x with 8GB will be 8GB seeing as there isnt another GPU copying data to which is good. Gearing up for multiple 4K displays then :d

          • Psionicinversion

            ah actually i get it now it wa at 4k resolutions,, wel 4K is generally needs 4GB ram to work the best to stop it swapping it in and out of system ram etc so yah 290x prolly better at the moe. 880′s i have to admit look like there going to tear up the 4K gpu market

          • xultra

            Simply wrong ;-)
            The PS3 has a downgraded 7800gtx ,at it’s release the 7950 was established and the 8800 was the new king.
            The 8800 had 4 times the bandwidth of the RSX ,at least double performance. The GPU of the 360 the Xenon was more ahead of it’s time.
            The PS4 is not a standard APU with a big GPU ,the GPGPU abilities will make the difference in the future.
            The PS4 can operate GPGPU calculations without flushing any caches, the X1 can’t.
            Peace

          • Psionicinversion

            hmm yeah maybe i am wrong but GPGPU is more of an Nvidia term i think, compute is more of an AMD term, i suppose there the same and GPGPU sounds better

            oh also the MS xbox GPU called the… cant remeber but the technology in that is the basis for all modern GPU’s but it was faster and more eficient so to say MS had little impact is false cus you wouldnt have the AMD GPU in the PS4 if it want for MS so yeah

          • xultra

            GPGPU sounds better, nice one ;-)
            Both (and the WiiU) consoles have a AMD GPU so Nvidia doesn’t matter ( not negative ) in this area.
            Sorry for my English ,but I’m upset that the media tried us to sell the pure hardware fact as we are all from LLaland.

            Tiled Recourses is a buzzword like ”the power of the cloud”,
            the PS4 has this same feature set in hardware ,even on a higher Level. Furthermore you can program the PS4 ‘on the metal’ which u can’t ! on the x1 ,this is the ”magic sauce” of optimization, the hardware cannot be stronger.
            I respect the design of a hardware, I sh… which firm is behind it, so the 360 was awesome but now the PS4 APU is the clear winner in terms of Hardwaredesign.
            At times where online mags write the gap is 30% (sic) between the both ,I ask people how the power of GPUs are measured…
            Frames per second at one resolution …,TFlops etc. who cares.
            A graphic card with the same chip is at least 30% faster with GDDR5 then with DDR3 ,on ‘bad’ situations like open world games 80% faster. The 18 CUs number alone is 55% more! without the doubled ROPs etcetc

          • xultra

            Sry cann’t edit my last blabla ;-)
            We all know ,we buy consoles because of the games, but on hardware site the PS4 is a lot better than X1.
            If games run at the 2,25 X resolution ,the GPU is 2,25 times faster. Same with fps. The future is even more brighter for PlayStation 4. No super complicated Cell CPU which takes years to by understand and used! Low Level coding and GPGPU usage will make the differences in later years and here the PS4 shines.
            Now I need I trip to Mario World 3D on my crappy ,slow WiiU ,because I love the game :-)
            Peace

          • Psionicinversion

            ok forget it x1 i better and PC cajm render real time hyper onplex phyc sdomt ssshhh marix stull. soz bsk i sitbhut

          • Psionicinversion

            GPGPU is coined as General Purpose GPU, AMD called it sligtly differently liek ll competitiors do but its still the same, not bashing just dishing out the facts

          • Gamez Rule

            You are correct.

            I still have the old 7950 GT OC from BFG☺

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Keep in mind GoW 3 and Ascension use FMV in their cutscenes.

          • Gamez Rule

            So what was better, back then or now?

          • shinitaru

            Because they want to believe that Xbox devs will figure out how to make the eSRAM work for them and surpass the supposedly maxed out PS4.

        • Averix

          So, we should all buy a PC then?

          • Psionicinversion

            no of course not but most PS4 cr@p talkers on here think theres no limits to what you can achieve on it, they think its going to get touched by the hand of god and turn into a quantum computer or something. im trying to coax some sense into them.

        • Mitchell Jenkins

          You are wrong. There is a difference between max performance of a machine and the max performance of an engine on a machine. You can get almost any code to run on a machine, but the key is to make it as efficient as possible to maximize performance.

          Therefore, it can be said that the first Uncharted reached its maximum performance. Then, when the engine was refined, a new maximum performance was achieved in Uncharted 2.

          Another way to think about it. Titanfall uses a very old engine on the Xbox One and Xbox 360 as well as PC. It is reasonable to assume that if the engine is upgraded, it can actually achieve hgher resolutions, better textures and destructible environments without sacrificing frames. As engines become better at multithreaded execution, and more reliant on GPU computation, the performance you can extract from a machine will increase.

          Therefore to insinuate that the Order: 1886 has maxed the PS4 is to have very little understanding of development and little recollection of game history period. Improvements are always achieved.

          • Psionicinversion

            well havnt the order and infamous got engines to maximise the performance of PS4? Naughty Dog are building/have built an engine that is specifically designed for the PS4 so it should run really good? at the end of the day optimisation can only get you so far until the hardware limits you and i think the hardware is the limiting factor here. they arent selling the consoles at a loss like they were last time so they are not as powerful for the price as they used to be

          • Sticky Notes

            It takes years to refine engines capable of maximizing a systems performance. COD has been using the same engine for years. It gives them the performance they want, but it in no way maxes the platforms. When developing a title, you have to set a goal for the what you want and then hope that your engine can get you that. Otherwise you need to refine your engine or refine your goal. Its one of the issues with Esram in the Xbox One. Yes its small, but if your engine is built to max the usage of it, you can get some killer performance. Naughty Dog’s vision for their next title, and their experience with the platform will determine how close they come to maxing the PS4′s overall performance.

          • Matt Dickinson

            it doesn’t seem like there’s been as much graphics advancement as there used to be either (as fast of pace). I mean even for PCs.

          • Psionicinversion

            thats down to consoles really, now theres better consoles youll see better gfx, its why theres bin few true DX11 games for ages and thats purely down to consoles being stuck on dx9/10 so when new stuff comes in dx 12/13 most games will still be stuck on dx11

          • shinitaru

            How you feeling today man?

          • Psionicinversion

            im alright had go out early so hangover disappeared quite quick due to open air :d

          • shinitaru

            yeah, now PC gaming will be stuck in this console generation. Oh well, still an improvement

          • Matt Dickinson

            They might be running up against walls in terms of how small and fast they can make transistors

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22_nanometer

            See the box on the right? There isn’t much more room left.

            It’s possible cloud computing could make a major change here — supercomputers that stream high tech graphics beyond what is feasible in the home.

          • Psionicinversion

            the smaller they go they have to solve electron leakage its where there so small and close that electrons can jump paths so obviously means it isnt going to work right.

            Think youll get some amazing speed improvements when graphene based stuff comes out, i think thatll be the stop gap between what weve got now and quantum computing

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Agree with this.

          • Psionicinversion

            yah bt you canmaximuse the performabce all you want, there will still be sacrifices made between fps and high detiail lower rame

        • Mikeherp Derp

          Did you read this? PS4 coding has lots of room to improve especially GPGPU and multi-threading.

          http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/191007/inside_the_playstation_4_with_mark_.php

          • Psionicinversion

            im sorry mate but for someone who apprently owns a high level haswel 16GB ram and 780 GPU, the GPU does the compute its limited by the straming processors of the amd architecture

            nvidi acusa is like 10-20% abobeve what amd streaming does

          • Mikeherp Derp

            That’s what the ACEs and Compute Queues are for, to more finely thread GPGPU requests in between rendering jobs. CUs are often % idle during rendering and can have simultaneous render and compute. Read the article.

          • Psionicinversion

            i think they made 8 ACE queues to say look our system is more ACE than yours… deal with it!!!

          • Mikeherp Derp

            Possible. lol

          • Psionicinversion

            every game engine will have lots of room to improve with multithreading cus theyve only just started building em to scale to 8 core CPU’s so spose there will be improvements across all platforms

        • http://E-mpire.com/ Omnistalgic

          You must have never played an Uncharted game or seen what SSM can do. Cerny has already stated most teams won’t appreciate the custom GPU the PS4 is designed with until years 3-4. I’m not going to get into all the tech-talk ( I don’t understand half of it) , but just google HSA for PS4. The Order is not the best visuals PS4 will see, don’t be silly, PC-like architecture doesn’t mean system maxed out within it’s first tow years.

          • Psionicinversion

            no havnt owned a console since the N64. yeah i know about HSA. The new maxwell architecture from nvidia looks good thats got virtual unified memory where the CPU can use the GDDR and the GPU can use system ram if either is better for something so its like a toned down version of HSA.

    • Aidan Murphy

      they may have maxed the system, but the console is new to everyone and it won’t be optimised atall, so in the future when we have games as good as that but the devs are better with optimisation it’ll only get better from there.

      • Psionicinversion

        of course itll be optimised, its the only way the order can run at that level of fidelity… if you want a game thats unoptimised check out thief 30 fps with 15-20fps frame drops, thats unoptimised!!

    • Guest

      You’re funny.

    • Guest

      Good LORD your dumb.

      • shinitaru

        “you’re” dumb

    • NinoBr0wn

      Puff puff pass

    • datdude

      Who let this fool out of his cage? Someone call his mommy and let the adults have a rational conversation.

      • Psionicinversion

        atm inm a bit drunk and dont fackong care so go F yourself things arent that important

        • shinitaru

          You tell ‘em Psi! It’s totally not the liquor talking at all :D

          • Psionicinversion

            got my vodka + coke, onion rings and garlic mayo + omator sauce when mayo runs out.# acyually the onion and garlic bus is what im experiencing right now do ya know what im saying boom lol

            800 series gonna own but for m=bnow my low end r9 280 MSI gaming edition still owns everything thrown at it by games even console ports so tbh its well fair play itll be very very good price/performance im not going knock that cus it is the truth, but in terms of the latest gfx and graphics technologies there is abolsutley no way the PS4 can keep up by its own admission, its fixed hardware…. its CANNOT advance by having new hardware accelerated featres becuase it is FIXED hardwarew, and that the be all and end all all.

          • shinitaru

            Mt. Dew is a much better vodka mixer

            “…no way the PS4 can keep up by its own admission”

            Keep up? Keep up with who? It’s already in the lead.

          • Psionicinversion

            theres so many comments ive conceded the ps4 is more powerful than x1 but by how much in terms of ps4 and gfx fidelity… ive said if in 4 years th PS4 isnt making MAJOR leaps in gfx tech like everyone seems to thing ill come back and troll Gamez Rule’s posts face off”!!!

          • shinitaru

            Maybe, I don’t pretend to know how much of the PS4′s graphical prowess has been tapped so far but if it is then their competition has a similar problem. I think that eventually the XB1 will be running games in 1080p (with caveats) but that’s the best it can hope for is to be compatible, there’s no way it can surpass

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah true but with being x86 they open themselves upto PC master race comments. When the x360 was power pc and ps3 was cell who cared now therw both x86 PC architectures (yeah there custome stuff but its stioll based on x86-64 amd and gcn 2) so tiour still going get the comments

            For me personally i dont like the PS4 owns cus i know my essentailly when it came out the i7 950 was like 6 years ago… 6 years wtf have have they bin doing and it still owns to this day, it still detroys any APU or anything… if i got a haswell achitecture the sheer bandwith imporvement (notciebale from triple channel ddr3 in 1366 to sand7ybrdige was incredible it owned thats why im waitnig for 2nd gen DDR4 to o fukll syste upgrade

          • shinitaru

            My Ivybridge 3770k kicks the PS4′s ass too but you can’t really compare since you can’t get most of the same games. If I could, I would never have bothered with consoles in the first place

            Now maybe once the emulators are completed :)

            http://slashdot.org/topic/cloud/the-quest-to-build-xbox-one-and-ps4-emulators/

          • Psionicinversion

            if the wii is anything o go by we cant emulate cr@p… dolphin emulator needs an i7 to run properkly ive tried play some mario galaxyhh or someat game on a i7 950, laggy as crap. need an i7 770k to mulate a PS4 game

          • shinitaru

            My rig runs dolphin like it was native, sometimes the sound is a bit wonky but the framerate is as smooth as butter. Emulating from those older platforms are more difficult. The x86 architecture of the PS4, XB1, & PC should make emulation easy. Should start seeing the emulators by the end of the year

          • Psionicinversion

            also 9omg the x86 wquest to build PS4 and X1 emulators…. there x86 anyway its called a F**KING PORT…. i dont understnd whats hard to comprehend

          • shinitaru

            probably the DRM encryption is the current speed bump, but all that will do is slow them down till someone clever comes along. I suspect that the XB1 will go first since historically MS systems have always been easier to crack

  • Rob

    Shut up you ill informed fanboy.

    • Matt Berial

      Why you so mad? Lol

      • Grant A

        Its funny that instead of downvoting, people just upvote replies, things will never change here in the forums.

        • theodor70941

          But this isn’t a forum… It’s comment section! :P

        • jb223

          For some reason the down vote option isn’t working on disqus, I’m assuming he’d have many more otherwise

    • Fersay Ferrera

      get out here, pc fanboy

  • George Zimmerman

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    • Terramax

      Back to the mental house you go, George….

  • George Zimmerman

    PLAYSTATION 9 BITCH

  • Steph

    Looking forward to a Deep Down and RIME, can’t wait for more info on them.
    Santa Monica’s new IP should be amazing and I’m very much looking forward to the reveal.
    E3 should be awesome, very awesome.

    • YOUDIEMOFO

      You said it!!! I almost bought tickets this year, but of course “other” things come first this time around….

      Damn near drooling over thinking of what could possibly be in the works for E3 this year.

      • Psionicinversion

        drolling over the microtransaction in deep down, no offense it could be a good game but no one gives something away for free

        • YOUDIEMOFO

          To put it lightly I have never paid for a free game……

          • YOUDIEMOFO

            And I don’t pay to win either….

          • Psionicinversion

            me either ill grind that game out till it gives me what i want… if it gets to boring itll happen anyway and can walk away cash free!

  • Terramax

    All I read from this was; Sony doesn’t care less about the PS Vita.

    • Bankai

      They do care about the Vita, that’s why they’re still pushing it and finally getting more third party developers to develop for it. People are reading into things far too deeply if every non-Vita announcement is seen as Sony not caring.

    • shinitaru

      All you read from that was something totally unrelated to the subject? The article is about upcoming PS4 titles and has nothing to do with the PS Vita

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    2014 is gonna be a great year.

    • ExTrooperBrenTurner

      Especially for the PlayStation brand. ^^

      • Axe99

        Aye, but I reckon Xbox One will do well as well – it should be a great year for gaming :). I’d bet there’ll be (at least) one or two top-notch games on the Wii U as well, and betting against good games on PC would be brave :).

        • Psionicinversion

          the X1 will get better but before i start trolling the PS4 threads again, i highly dount the X1 will match the PS4 icve seen there PRT tile streaming tech in that video and im not impressed the high end textures arenot good and the streaming ias rubbish cus it degrades to close to your focal point. They will have worked to improve this obviously i think if MS is saying Halo will be the best game looking on any system you shouldf wait for that release then tear it apart cus tbh i cant see it happening… between you and me PS4 is the best this consdole gen but im still going troll cus i love supporting the underdog!! :D

          • Axe99

            Oh aye, I just said it’d be a good year for all the systems – personally, I think the PS4 is the best place to be for console gaming in 2014 unless you can’t live without Halo 2: Anniversary. That said, no reason that all three console’s fans can’t have a great time, which is what I’m hoping’ll happen :). Anyways, happy trolling :P.

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah that is true tbh, PS4 is really the way to go this console generation and only saying it cus im really drunk. toorrow i wont remeber so the status qou wuill rsum,e back to PS4 trolling :d

            Still dont count the X1 out, it will never be as good as the PS4 but it will get to 1080p definately, at what fps and lod i dunno but it will stabilise t being good like ppl have said the ps4 can do stuff siilar yo ps3 with generations of game engine updates, why cant the x1 dpo the same thing with generation of game engine up[dates, of course it will. nwver to the same lvl of PS4 but could give MS a kick up the ass and rethink there strategy for next time.

            So i think the next truely NEXT GEN WAR will be 4K in 8 years when the next consol come out and i can see nvidia being the gpu of choice

          • Axe99

            Hahaha, you’re discussing things pretty well given the influence of alcohol ;). Not counting the X1 out at all – I just think Sony has got it’s act together better, and the better hardware for gaming, but anyone who can’t have fun on an X1 isn’t a gamer. I agree that they’ll get to 1080p, and am less worried about fps, but they’ll always be struggling a little performance wise because of the GPU gap, but by and large the game experiences will be similar enough for X1 gamers not to feel short-changed. Too many suits involved in X1′s design has hampered its hardware, but they’ve got the gamers back in charge now, so it’ll be a good experience over the generation, no need to worry about that.

            Deffo agree that 4K next-gen will be a battleground if 4K sets take off (which I think they will) – will be interesting to see which angle Nintendo takes after the Wii U, Microsoft won’t do an ‘X1′ twice in a row, and Sony has a habit of getting cocky when the do well.

          • Psionicinversion

            well this is the thing sony has stumbled onto secret sauce!!! right now but i think next gen consoles are goingto be absolutely amazing, and the PC GPU’s are goign to be staggering… you seen the road map for maxwell and volta, this is something from maxwell architecture ..

            “Nvidia’s next-gen Maxwell architecture is expected to appear next year with some tricks of its own, most notably “unified virtual memory,” which will allow a machine’s CPU to access a GPU’s memory and its GPU to access system memory — reminiscent of AMD’s plans to unify memory via its Heterogeneous Systems Architecture (HSA).”

            if it works its going to own and then the next roadmap is code named Volta using stacked DRAM upto 1 TB/sec, yes terabytre of bandwidth its absolutley insane and volta is scheduled for end of 2015/2016,, stuff is going to get real. so by the time the next consoles come out theres goign to be a ton of low pwoered extremely fast hardware coming out of nvidia and i think nvidia may be the GPU to go fo next gen at this rate

          • Axe99

            Sounds awesome :). I don’t follow that stuff so much (well, I look at it when I’m looking at a new GPU, but that’s about all). Although I think the next challenge is building the tools so that devs can take advantage of the power without games costing $100 million and above to make. Am very impressed by your knowledge given drunknness, may your hangover be light :).

          • Psionicinversion

            consles always got a differnt design that more powerful thn a PC equivalent BUT the hardware still has to come from the PC side and why??? its the only jhardware that changes. consoles dont change PC does so to have a custom GPU/GPOU ready built with extra console stuff still comes from the PC side.

            $100milion a game is very very rare, unless its CoD but ya know only stupid ppl will buy CoD now. the |Next CoD will prolly be a really good gfx engine PS4 fanoboys omg 1080p 60 ps4 900p 30-60 X1, but they fail to mention the gamplay will always be terrible, the omly CoD im sligtly interested in is the black ops from treyarch… infintiy ward revealed they can only give uninspiring trash and cant see sledeghammer doing much better so yeah CoD for me is 70% trash

          • Axe99

            Aye, but there’s been fairly widespread reporting by devs that higher res assets and more complex AI/animations/physics simulation/etc., mean higher dev costs – so as the power available to developers goes up, costs go up, so they either have to broaden the market, charge more for games or find cheaper ways to do things to take advantage of the higher-end hardware. There was an estimate I read that the average cost of a current-gen game has hit $30 million, when a AAA blockbuster on the PS2 could be built for half that, and most PS2/Xbox/Gamecube games for much less. I think they will find ways to streamline development processes, and automate systems to make it more cost-effective, but I think that the challenge of using the hardware effectively, without pricing the game out of the market, is the next big challenge to devs on PC, XB1 and PS4.

          • Psionicinversion

            thats te ting its cost vs return, thats what publishers lok at.

            I bring it up alot but Star Citizen native 4k insane detailing only thebest will do for CR BUT most importantly, no publisher like EA squeezing the nut screws, its had $39 million of PLAYERS cash already its not tied to a release date and every backer will wait for it to be completed not pushed out the dorr liek BF4 and have months of broken updates. This is the promise and we will wait for a proper completeed game.,

            if it gets developed for the PS4 AFTER the PC is up stable and owning fair play the only thing i will have a problem wiith if none of them contribute to the credits/vanity items to keepo the game going, extra population = increased server load= increased costs etc. and i can guarantee the PC players with the best hardware will be doing screenies and videos and if a massive upraoar of PS4 owners start moaning about why the PC versiobn is better, Chris Roberts can simply and easily cut access to PS4 users and say you moan so much my head is better without it, good bye. PSA4 access cut out and you can go play something else

          • Axe99

            I think the alcohol is getting to you now ;). Don’t forget in a space sim you actually don’t need to make a huge amount of different models and environments (it’s space, most of the time you’re out their in the void – compare that with an action/adventure game or RPG where you’ve got to do a lot more geometry work for a certain amount of gameplay). Don’t get me wrong, I love Chris Roberts’ work, and I backed Star Citizen on Kickstarter before it’d hit its goals there (and I hope it’ll come to PS4, but I’ll play it wherever I can get it). Anyways, my argument was that costs were rising, and Star Citizen is being done with an initial cash investment of over $30 million dollars, will be able to borrow more pre-launch and will make money back post-launch, so it’s a good example of why games cost more, not a good example of why they don’t ;).

            As for moaning, I think the Star Citizen community has done enough of that, that Chris’ll be pretty much immune to it by now, lol. In my experience playing on multiple platformers, PC gamers tend to complain more, because they get more emotionally invested in a smaller amount of games, as well as more emotionally invested in their hardware (console fanboys go on, but they’ve got nothing on ‘PC master race’ types when it comes to hardware spruiking)

          • Psionicinversion

            yeah they even said asteroid fields are easy could have like 5 really detailed asteroids then just turn them on there axis mking a field texture copying 4tw but the models are still highly detailed and will own anything on any platform

          • Axe99

            Aye, the ship models are great, but not having to make large, detailed worlds like for a game where the person is the main means of transportation (I know you can walk around the hangar and deck on SC, but it’s not quite the same as Skyrim, say ;)) does make it easier. It’s one of my most anticipated games, and will be awesome, what type of game are you going to play?

          • Psionicinversion

            you’ll be able to walk around the space stations and docking ports, and when you land on a planet you’ll be able to walk around there but can’t explore planets yet cus its to much work before release by there going do procedurally generated planets sometime after where the whole planet is can be explored but doing that for 100′s worlds will take a while. Be awesome if they simulated re-entry with the burning flames to:-D
            Think im going dabble in a bit of everything at first except mining cus it sux,but may end becoming a pirate cus its more fun to ruin someone elses day!!
            I think us PC gamers are really defensive over it cus games come out and there the samething with a newface its quite rare to get a top notch quality game I know its kinda done before but this is one game that will be done properly and be amazing visits not going to be dumbed down to suit everyone and the family dog know what I mean and we dontwant it to be dumbes down for console users

          • Axe99

            The idea that games are ‘dumbed down’ for console users is, by and large, a fallacy. The biggest PC games are no more or less complex than console games (SC is a standout here, in that it will be complex, but there are just as complex games on console – Birds of Steel would be the best example here), and the PC games that are complex (SC aside) tend not to have a huge audience (Paradox strategy games are my fave example). I play some of the most complex PC games (complex strategy games, flight sims) and beyond those examples, PC games are no more complex, and often due to mouse/kb controls actually more accessible and with a simplified, not more complex, aiming model.

            As for a port of SC, CR handled successful console ports for Wing Commander 3 and 4 without compromising anything, nor making the PC version any worse, so I’d breathe easy – that’s just fear and insecurity talking. Never forget that more money for the developer means a better game for everyone (unless the porting costs are excessive, but given the architecture of PS4/XB1, that’s unlikely). I’ll play SC with a Dualshock 4 on PC or PS4, but would prefer PS4 as I’d bet good money they’ll be less hassles involved.

            I know about the space stations/docking ports, but it’s still a long way from an Uncharted or a Skyrim/Witcher. It will be awesome, am looking forward to it heaps :D. Will make sure my explorer/trader has good defences for when I bump into pirates :P.

          • http://E-mpire.com/ Omnistalgic

            Doesn’t PS4 have HSA? Cerny stated that once devs figure out how to fully utilize the GPU, games in year 3-4 will be a cut above what we’ve seen at launch and in the first year.

            I’m not so eager to talk about next-gen, this gen is just getting started and The Order already looks like a movie.

  • SuperJamaican

    I don’t even own a ps4 and I’m so excited for the system…xbone not so much.

  • Jamic

    Kinda hoped for some The Last Guardian news/leaks…

  • Opt1kon

    i seen it said Japan new IP in my mind The Last Guardian came to mind, make it happen and you won my heart again Sony Japan

  • Jerry Hu

    Please release more Japanese games!!!

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