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inFAMOUS Dev on the Perks of Exclusivity: Chip Always Over 90%, Pushing it Until PS4 can “Barely Stand it”

by on March 16, 2014 7:58 PM 212

inFAMOUS: Secons Son definitely looks beautiful visuals-wise, and it’s doubtless that the game benefited considerably from being a PS4 exclusive, like most games that have to cope with only one platform. Sucker Punch Co-Founder Chris Zimmerman explained why during an interview on the latest PlayStation Blogcast.

It was very freeing. It was very exciting going into it, because we started on the game before the specs for the hardware were really settled and we saw them evolve as we were working on the game.

It was great, because every time a decision was made, it was the right decision. It’s practical too. You can’t just jam everything… It’s not like you can have some liquid nitrogen cooled graphics chip in your thing right? There are practical limits to do what you can do and still have an afordable console, but the hardware design team did a spectacular job of listening to all the game developers, both internal and external and making good decisions. They always were looking at the decisions they were making in terms of “is this gonna let people make great games?” “Is this gonna help people build grat games?”

Having a lot of memory was good, having 8 gigabytes of memory was even better. For the first time ever, and I’ve been doing this for seventeen years, we didn’t have to worry about memory when we were building the game.

Zimmerman went on to explain that with previous consoles the studio was always having to put a lot of effort in squeezing the assets into the small memory included in the machine, but with the PS4 this hasn’t been the case, allowing them to focus on other things.

He also gave some very interesting insight about the open world nature of the game, and of about the tech side of not having any loading times:

That’s a place where we had to apply a lot of technology, to make it feel like there were no loading screens, because believe me, there’s a lot of stuff going on to make it feel like that, right?

So even down to the level of…we know exactly how fast Delsin can move through the city…He can move 18 meters per second. If he moves faster than that, we cannot guarantee than we can’t guarantee that we’ll be able to load the next block before you get to it.

So you wanna guess how fast he moves when he does the laser dash? 18 meters per second! We can go up to 18 meters per second and everyone was like “ok, then he’s going at 18 meters per second.”

It’s one of the advantages of being a Sony exclusive developer, is that when we’re building the game, we can make decisions like that, because we have exactly one platform we’re aiming for, and we can leverage the heck out of it. We know exactly how fast the hard drive is and these things, and we can design our games to run right up to the limit.

It’s the same with the graphics chip. We have the meters on screen showing how much of the chip we have that we’re using, and it’s in the nineties all the times.

Zimmerman explained that this allows them to always add a little bit more until the console “can barely stand it” and as long as they’re nailing the 30 frames per second goal they’re good and they can keep adding.

If you’re someone that has to support multiple platforms, especially if one is slightly less powerful than the other one, then you’re kinda in trouble right? Because you’re kinda having to work hard so that it can look as good as it can on all of them, and we don’t have to worry about that, we can just focus on making it look great on PS4 and just focus on having the game be as good as possible. We don’t have to wrestle with all that stuff, and that’s freeing.

He finally concluded by mentioning that people are surprised when they see the game on the screen live, because it really looks like the screenshots, and much better than what they see on YouTube, marred by bad video quality and compression artifacts. So he hopes that gamers will realize just how “awesome” the PS4 actually can be.

I can personally testify that the difference between YouTube videos and the real thing is very visible. When I first saw the game running at Gamescom I was floored, and I was even more surprised by what I saw at the most recent preview event. If you want to read more about my impressions, you can enjoy my hands-on preview.

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  • Matt

    Cant wait to discover what the other powers will be

  • Steph

    Lol, pointless PR fluff article. Let the game speak for itself Sony and stop begging the Devs to do lame PR like this. 18m per second, lol, the maps so small u will reach the other end in a min with that dash.

    • superkarma

      You mean like how Microsoft begged Respawn to hype up the X1 for Titanfall and the game itself?

      Oh, but that’s Microsoft — I guess they get a free pass when they do exactly the same thing you’re whining about.

      • dranzer1

        But they won the awards.. Ms can’t pay everyone..So that technically was the Hype

        • Redinferno124

          That’s the problem with some it seems. Titanfall is an awesome game. The main complaint people have is the lack of content which they feel was because EA forced Respawn to get the game out early, but thats nothing new.

          No one is saying the game is shit. If you like Cod or are really into FPS’s, this might be game of the year for you.

    • Preston queener

      I can’t believe how much you like to troll it’s getting really annoying. If you don’t like infamous stop clicking on the article. Seriously just stop.

    • shinitaru

      Not even going to point out the hypocrisy, I’m sure you’re aware already….

    • Diablo_Jambe11

      Most people don`t comment on a game they don`t care about unless they`re feeling a bit of jealousy lol.

      • Redinferno124

        It’s really because the game is on one system and not the other. They wouldn’t care otherwise.

    • Bankai

      Hurry and find a boyfriend, because you are D-prived!

    • neko working

      why Sony? ofcourse Devs speaks for themselves

    • Loledhard

      Actually, the map is 50% bigger than infamous 2, a Sucker punch dev said that in *podcast beyond*.

    • John Nemesh

      We get it, Steph. We all know what your preferred console is. So kindly go away.

  • Jonathan Crout

    no way dev have maxed out ps4 this soon this is pr if true im still buying game dont expect to play long game sessions ps4 will overheat on u in heartbeat if this is true my god

    • Bankai

      Obviously it hasn’t been maxed out, it took devs until last year to max out the far weaker PS3.

      • Jessie Bristol

        Well, there is a massive difference in the way the hardware is designed. The PS4 is more like PC architecture whereas the PS3 was more “traditional console” hardware. It will be far easier to tap out something like the PS4 then the PS3 or Xbox 360. Of course optimizations and such could be done to squeeze more out of it. Just don’t expect this generation to be like previous ones.

        I don’t believe this generation will last very long (maybe the more traditional five years). PC architecture already outclasses current generation console hardware by a significant margin. In five years the consoles will feel very ancient when compared to PC graphics cards and CPU’s (and memory).

        • Bankai

          “PC architecture already outclasses current generation console hardware by a significant margin.”

          The same was true for last gen consoles, yet those were around for almost a decade before their successors came along. I expect the current consoles to be around just as long, if not longer than their predecessors.

          • Jessie Bristol

            The original Xbox and Xbox 360 weren’t outclassed at their launch. Xbox 360 was the first to have unified memory architecture. This generation is a much different story where both consoles are significantly under powered compared to PC.

    • oGMo

      Using all the CPU/GPU and tweaking/optimizing so you’re getting way more out of it are two different things.

  • DJ KID BLAST

    embarrassing for sony if that system is at full power!

    • Bruce Wayne

      comparing a cutscene to gameplay.
      Nice.

      • DJ KID BLAST

        i know x1 is gameplay ps4 is cutscene its embarrasing isnt it! haha

        • shinitaru

          You seem really desperate right now, you know that? I feel sorry for you, your ego so tangled up in your console choice. That must really suck. Or if you’re fishing for downvotes, I hate to break the bad news but Disqus has disabled that feature…tough luck, troll

          • DJ KID BLAST

            that downgrade though they must of went above the ps4s weak specs haha

          • shinitaru

            Once again, don’t care. Troll on someone else, you don’t have the chops for me

          • Cameron Standring

            It’s so sad to find people who are dumb AND illiterate.

            http://www.gamechup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PS4-and-Xbox-One-GPU.jpg

          • dranzer1

            X1 is 1.34 TFlops. ps4= Dx11 X1= DX12. X1 has 868 shader cores with a higher clock speed. This wrong info guy

          • 113mac113

            DirectX 12 isnt even out yet you idiot.

          • shinitaru

            Way wrong, PS4 uses a modified OpenGL 4.4 and XB1 uses DX11.2

          • Cameron Standring

            Yep, though it’s looking like DX12 will actually be coming to the Xbone. What is that likely to actually accomplish? I had heard that the point of DX is largely to help PC games to run on various different hardware configs – what exactly would such an upgrade do for a single-spec console?

          • shinitaru

            There isn’t any way it can be upgraded. The API a burned into the GPU. They cannot be overwritten. I’m sure that some of the coding advances in DX12 could be applied to games made for the XB1, but the advantages of that would be marginal

          • Cameron Standring

            Oh, really? Very interesting, I had assumed a new API could be included in a firmware update. And so I assumed that if DX12 coding advances could be applied to the Xbone, such advances from newer versions of OpenGL could be applied to PS4 games in a similar fashion?

          • shinitaru

            Nope, the API’s are hard coded to the GPU’s processor, the firmware ROM is slower and too remote

          • Michael Norris

            It does not have 868 core you moron.

          • Cameron Standring

            I didn’t notice that the clock speed wasn’t updated to 853, but where did you hear about the supposed 868 shader cores? I googled it, and literally all I could find was your comment. Everywhere says the number is 768. Also, I’m not sure exactly what difference DX12 is going to make – if you actually have a list of even claimed improvements, I’d appreciate it. And from what I found the PS4 does not use DirectX 11, it uses OpenGL (it might be able to use both, I’m not sure). I read that devs actually prefer OpenGL to DirectX, too.

            And none of this changes the point of my post – namely, that an Xbox fanboy troll claiming the PS4 has ‘weak specs’ is an idiot, because the Xbox One’s specs are substantially weaker, a fact that will not be changing.

          • You are flat out wrong

            You mean the downgrade that never happened?

            “Definitely no visual downgrade of graphics since then! We put that
            particular area in sunset instead of sunny time of day so that it
            matches the mood of narrative better.”

            Get out of here, bot. Your console sucks. :D

          • Kameron Jackson

            Slap yourself

          • Gamez Rule

            Infamous Second Son vs Xbone games

          • Shinobi1992

            If this picture is true, idk why you are being downvoted. This is Sucker Punch pulling a textbook GearBox.

          • Redinferno124

            Look at the dozen’s of screenshots online already. He’s being downvoted because the shots he posted do a poor job of showing that the time of day is completely different from what was shown at E3. No one knows how to read or use google anymore geeze.

          • Giuseppe Nelva

            Funny how you conveniently forget to show the opposite example.

            http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/15/infamous-second-son-pictures-show-that-there-was-no-downgrade-since-e3-2013/

            I suggest to stop the trolling, or we’ll have to take steps.

          • shinitaru

            yeah, he was spamming the FUD really hard last night for about 30 minute. He wasn’t around very long but he sure posted a lot of crap

        • Redinferno124

          Your a cut-scene, the xbox one is gameplay.

        • Michael Norris

          You really are delusional.

    • shinitaru

      We’ll see how embarrassed you are when it launches.

      • DJ KID BLAST

        yer embarrassed at the lack of sales like the other 2 games! hahaha what a failure of an ip!

        • shinitaru

          Ehh, don’t care.

        • Redinferno124

          Yeah and how well was this game received again? Graphics can only carry a game so far man. Ryse sucked ass in the gameplay department and no one gave it a pass for it.

          Come back when Halo 5 comes out and I will talk day and night of how awesome that game will play and look.

          • Eagles83

            Ryse was repetitive but I think it is going a little far to say that it sucked ass. I figured it would suck big time after seeing the awful e3 demonstration but the combat is actually pretty decent. It just didn’t have enough types of gameplay to keep it interesting.

          • Redinferno124

            It is when he compares a linear game with no depth to an open world game. No hiding how dumb that sounds.

          • Eagles83

            I have no doubts that Infamous will be better than Ryse. I enjoyed Ryse more than I thought I would but I love the Infamous franchise.

          • Redinferno124

            Peggle 2 is better than Ryse. Ryse should have been a tech demo, nothing more. All Ryse did was demonstrated the abilities of CryEngine 4 and even that is limited on both consoles. Only the best PCs can get the most out of CryEngine 4

          • Eagles83

            I think you are being too down on Ryse. Everybody has their own opinion but it wasn’t crap.

            Your second statement is true but one that does without saying. These consoles are underpowered out of the gate.

        • Redinferno124

          Care to post said sales numbers?

        • DemonFenton

          How about them NPD or world wide sales?

          • Redinferno124

            I asked , no response. Typical.

          • DemonFenton

            Typical Xbox Mafia member, all bark and no bite…

          • You are flat out wrong

            Credit to them, they have that distinct hollow sound when you tap their skulls.

      • Lel144

        Comparing a sub 30 fps, 900p, close corridor, linear game to a 1080p, open world game. Good job!

        • shinitaru

          Who, me? Think you’ve got the wrong guy.

          • Lel144

            Yeh, was meant to DJ KID BLAST.

          • shinitaru

            Ah, ok

        • DJ KID BLAST

          open world?! haha it takes 2 minutes to the north point to south point! and has a barrier around so you cant go in the water… if thats an open world so is ryse! hahaha

          • Redinferno124

            I hope your not serious. Final Fantasy XIII was a damn tunnel with fancy wallpaper plastered on it and it was still bigger than Ryse.

          • shinitaru

            “(i dnt no why tht pic is posted it wnt let me take it out)

            because you tried to post it earlier then changed your mind. You have to hit the (x) on the corner to remove it

          • Jessie Bristol

            After watching the video just now, they look identical. That specific scene just looks to be more of a texture loading bug then anything.

          • You are flat out wrong

            lmao using a Youtube screencap of a cross gen game.

            You Xbots seriously don’t have a clue.

          • Redinferno124

            I’m playing this right now and that is not what that looks like on. In fact, both look better than this. Seriously guys.

          • Bankai

            It takes 10 minutes to run across the city, which isn’t bad when you consider how fast Delsin runs. And just so you know, Killzone: Shadow Fall looks better than Ryse, even Resogun looks better than that game.

          • Jordan

            you dont have a clue of what you are talking. cant even differentiate an open world game to a linear game design. it is like saying GTAV and Skyrim are not open world games simply because they will too hit the end of the map. what a moron. you need to shut up already

          • Gamez Rule

            Not even 1080p…LMAO!

        • Cameron Standring

          Not to mention that they’re compressed YT vids of differing quality. Also, I believe an article on this site mentioned that inFamous uses the same SMAA as Ryse, but more advanced (T2x instead of Ryse’s 1x).

          • DJ KID BLAST

            i read somewhere that ps4 could do 1080/60 aswell but the only console thats has an exclusive from day one doing that is xbox hahaha

          • You are flat out wrong

            And it shows.

          • Redinferno124

            Is that Forza?

          • You are flat out wrong

            Sure is.

          • Jordan

            please tell me this is not Forza 5. Because it looks like a last gen game.

          • You are flat out wrong

            It sure is, I’m afraid.

          • Gamez Rule

            Is that a car? Is that this gen? No!, it’s Forza bummed down 5☺

          • PCS4-Box U

            It shows what exactly??? That looks terrible! Heres a pick of Need for Speed Rivals on PS4 (which released at 1080p/60fps on PS4 mind you, is cross gen and cross platform as well…)

          • Redinferno124

            Halo 5 isn’t out yet so what the hell are you talking about.

          • Jordan

            dont know what the heck are you talking. if you dont know facts then STFU. since when PS4 does not have an exclusive from day one that does 1080p 60fps? You are a complete idiot. And an ignorant one. Especially you dont have any multiplat on X1 that is superior to the PS4 version that has been release till date. So what you said are just slapping your own face

          • Gamez Rule

            Name that xbone exclusive that’s doing full 1080p at solid 60fps?

          • DJ KID BLAST

            i read somwhere that sony lied and said killzone was 1080/60 aswell…those pesky liers when will they stop haha

          • DJ KID BLAST

            38fps hahahah

          • Redinferno124

            MS lied about Xbox One being the best place to play Titanfall. DF proved what we all already knew.

            They both lie all the time. your naive if you believe everything thet say.

          • DJ KID BLAST

            it is the best place to play the most powerful console in the world where the game doesnt get hacked in a day like pc?! no lie there… who remembers this one from sony….i stil laugh now..”all games on PS3 will be native 1080/120fps” hahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaah they need to stop bullshitting man!

          • DJ KID BLAST

            its nearly as bad as “driveclub is a launch game” buy the console to play it ….available in 2016 hahahahaahah this is gran turismmo 5 all over again make up a game to sell consoles and say its a launch title then delay it for four and a half years while you make it… then when it got released it was 90% port from ps2 hahahahahahaahahah

          • Kameron Jackson

            They didn’t lie about DriveClub being a launch game. The developers didn’t think it was ready. Would you want to play a half assed game? Then again, you must play Titanfall

          • Redinferno124

            You not making a load of sense. Are you listening to the shit your saying right now? Your clearly not an Xbot as even they aren’t this stupid.

          • DJ KID BLAST
          • DJ KID BLAST

            and im stupid hahahaha no wonder sony are broke claiming DUMB shit like this… lie lie lie sony lie! thats all they do!

          • Redinferno124

            THEY’RE A DAMN CORPORATION, OF COURSE THEY LIE!

            MS is NO different, just like every other corporation. Welcome to reality ignoramus

          • Redinferno124

            You really are.

          • Redinferno124

            Did you really just pull an article from 2005? I’ve seen all I need.

          • PCS4-Box U

            No, Don’t remember that… Care to provide a source?

          • shinitaru

            You’re kidding, right?

          • PCS4-Box U

            I’m not saying they didnt, i’m just saying I don’t remeber that and based on the fanboy dribble he has drooled all over these comments, I have a hard time taking anything he says at face value.
            Regardless, he surprisingly does have a source listed but I wouldn’t call anything said in that as a promise… Just a bunch of “hopes” & “maybe”, nowhere did they promise ALL games would be 1080/120fps… and the source is over 1 year prior to the actual PS3 launch.

          • shinitaru

            No, you misunderstand. My bad, should have been more clear. When I say, “you’re kidding” I mean are you seriously expecting proof for something that outlandish? LMAO

          • PCS4-Box U

            Ahh, i see and I agree! So you can imagine my surprise when he DID have a source! Its old, full of holes and intrepretted by a fanboy to be what he wants it to be but he did provide one… The articles states thats what they wanted to do and were striving for, its a bunch of hopes and maybes really. It’s really depressing though, more than anything, it outlines one of Sonys biggest failures, cell processor. It’s a reality of being a Electronics giant though, its a cut throat industry and everyone wants to be in front. I dont know how i got so far off topic here….Sorry!

          • Redinferno124

            Remember this? Can’t excuse this considering it’s and actual downgrade

            http://i5.minus.com/ib0ruRenTARkod.png

          • PCS4-Box U

            That game is surprisingly ugly in person too… i would honestly say the screenshot still does it more justice than it deserves.

          • Kameron Jackson

            Im sure COD Ghosts was hacked on Xbox before the game even came out

          • Jordan

            yeah while every xbox 360 games printed 1080p at the back of their game case while technically they are not. At least Sony didnt lie about that on their PS3 game case.

          • Preston queener

            When will you stop being a troll. mean really if you don’t like playstation don’t click on the articles. An going on fact the ps4 is the strongest of the two consoles. If you need me to give example here that are COD GHOST : Xbox one 720p 60fps vs. PS4 1080p 60fps or BF4 xbox one 720p vs. PS4 980p. I can keep on going on an on. Look the xbox one is good so is the ps4 but unlike you I Don’t act like a stupid troll trying to be little a console just because you don’t like it. So just go away.

          • Redinferno124

            I don’t think he likes either. I’ve seen people like him before. They just post on the articles with the most traffic because they know they can get replies.

          • Preston queener

            Ashame. People like that just need to get a life, better yet just get off the computer an stop trolling

          • shinitaru

            I suspect that too, you can usually tell by the crazy claims and accusations. True fanboys at least come to the table with something plausible

          • Redinferno124

            I know because he’s replied to every comment that challenges him in under 5 seconds. He’s not even trying to debate.

          • Jordan

            you are an idiot. this already been explained and clarified. technologically it is still native 1920×1080. obviously you only take headers of negative sites and never read actual whitepapers. btw eurogamer has never been trustworthy. they have done articles that clearly proves they are unprofessional and a bias site when come to journalism. The only nice thing to watch there basically only for framerate test video. That’s about it. Everything they said are mostly garbage. And mind you even those tech analysis done are all based on assumptions on what they see with their eyes. Unless you are behind the scene in the dev group. Else none said can be taken into account.

          • Cameron Standring

            I mostly like Digital Foundry, but ’960×1080 upscaled’… what a bunch of tools. It’s vertically-interlaced 1920×1080 combined with a special predictive algorithm designed by Guerrilla and woven into the actual game (unlike the crappier traditional deinterlacing). It’s called ‘temporal reprojection’, it involves reconstructing pixels from both past frames AND predictions of future frames. The end result is a 1920×1080 image with occasionally inaccurate pixels, and it worked so well that basically no one noticed for months. Guerrilla goes into detail on the technical aspects here, and will apparently be discussing it further at GDC on the 20th:

            http://www.killzone.com/en_GB/blog/news/2014-03-06_regarding-killzone-shadow-fall-and-1080p.html

          • Gamez Rule

            Updated official response..

            KZ:SF = “Multiplayer is always making a 1080p image that is unscaled every frame. That’s the standard definition of 1080p”

            KZ:SF is native 1080P because the Pipe Line Textures ( 960 x 1080 used ) are irrelevant to final image output resolutions ( of 1920 x 1080 ). The final image on KZ:SF is unscaled at 1920 x 1080.

            Not everything in games ( including PC ) is a 1920×1080 native use ( lighting given as an example ) hence the term Rendering Pipeline being mentioned yet the output of the images are unscaled at a 1080p making it a ( native 1920 x 1080 image )

            If you select 1920 x 1080 resolution but then lower Lighting Effects ( same Rendering Pipeline as KZ:SF ) you are still running Native 1080p output, but with lower texture resolutions on lighting effects ( same story as KZ:SF )”

            So by saying that it’s not 1080p, then almost all games, ( including PC games ) in some cases are not 1080p then, no matter how good their hardware is.

    • Guest

      I can do that too.

      • Jessie Bristol

        That first image was of the Xbox 360 Kinect tech demo (when they first unveiled the Kinect).

    • D’shawn

      Lol Evolve uses CryEngine and looks almost just as good. It’s the engine, not the system that makes the game look good. Oh, and I’m not sure why you are acting like everyone who develops for Xbox One will pull Ryse graphics. There is only ONE crytek. They are a rare breed. Everyone is not going to get results like this even if they are using the same engine.

      http://i.minus.com/ih2EfaeAhl3g4.gif

      • Redinferno124

        especially since Ryse is really an overpriced movie. Game has to have gameplay to qualify as a game. Difficult concept for some to grasp it seems.

        Nice to see this game gets that.

        • You are flat out wrong

          Yeah, the only reason Ryse looked any good was because it was using CryEngine 4, and even then they had to use extremely linear level design, fog and motion blur to cover up the cracks. Imagine what CE4 will look like on PS4.

          • shinitaru

            “Imagine what CE4 will look like on PS4.”

            Is that something that could happen or has MS bought them too?

          • Redinferno124

            I think the engine is licensed the same way like Unreal Engine.

          • You are flat out wrong

            Crytek are putting the Cry Engine on Linux. They don’t care where it ends up as long as the license earns them money.

        • shinitaru

          I’m surprised that Crytek made that game, looks and plays nothing like what they are known for

          • Redinferno124

            I thought Crysis 1 and 2 were great as a whole, 3 not as much. I expect more from Crytek from no on.

          • Cameron Standring

            Crytek should make a Crysis Trilogy for PS4. Porting from x86 PC to x86 PS4 likely wouldn’t be too tough or expensive, and the work done to make those games look so good on high-end PCs should be seen by more people.

            Same with a lot of other Gen7 games with PC ports – Sleeping Dogs, Metro 2033/Last Light, Max Payne 3, Far Cry series, F.E.A.R. series, Mass Effect Trilogy, RAGE (the guaranteed HDD install would be a real boon for MegaTexture), etc.

          • Averix

            I think they were asked for a showpiece game and really didn’t have time to do much beyond a general story and nice graphics. That’s my theory anyway.

        • D’shawn

          Exactly. Crytek made this engine, and developed all of it’s upgrades. They would know how to get the most out of it, more than anyone.

      • Redinferno124

        Don’t say that out loud or his entire argument is gone.

      • Bankai

        You forgot Sony Santa Monica.

        • Redinferno124

          Which Ryse took inspiration from with mixed results.

    • D’shawn
    • D’shawn
      • shinitaru

        what is that?

        • D’shawn

          Evolve, from turtle rock studios. The guys who made Left for dead. This game is coming out in the Fall for PS4, Xbox One, & PC.

          • shinitaru

            Oh, heII yeahs! I love L4D 1 & 2. Just made my to-do list!

          • D’shawn

            There was a big info blowout last month on this game. Here’s the devs talking with other sites and youtube channels about the game.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UpXcMvFZIY

          • Redinferno124

            A lot of people went nuts over it. Good sign, but as always I will maintain some skepticism at least for now.

    • 9li8

      Let’s see Ryse being open world while maintaining those graphics.

      Hard numbers have been out for long, and it’s obvious that Dudebrobox is ton times weaker than PowerStation 4. You’re too desperate.

      Go play your new dudebro shooter crap, what was the name again? Titanfoul?

      • Redinferno124

        He won’t because he knows it’s not possible to that extent.

        • Jordan

          the ironic thing is. Ryse is actually a 360 kinect game. rings a bell?

          • PCS4-Box U

            Even worse, it was originally a Kinect game!
            (shudders)

      • Jordan

        being a linear game already not maintain a lock 30fps. let alone open world. lol….

      • Cameron Standring

        Eh, Titanfall’s a pretty fun game. I played the PC beta and it was cool – I’ll likely grab it when it’s about $20-30. It shouldn’t get ragged on for being exclusive to the Xbone – the exclusivity came entirely from Microsoft bribing EA. Respawn didn’t even get a say in it – hell, they chose the Source engine in the first place for its PS3 compatibility. Titanfall 2 on the PS4 will probably be pretty sweet – and it WILL be on the PS4. MS won’t be buying Xbone exclusives anymore, not with their current sales. They’ll have to buy entire studios or build up more first-party studios from scratch.

    • superkarma

      Stop embarrassing yourself by posting false screenshots.

    • Loledhard

      Sir, I’ll just expose you with such awesome coolness that you’ll never see it coming.

      Here we have a look at:
      World size.
      Particle system.
      Lighting.
      And texture quality.
      Ryse gets DESTROYED graphically, “in-game cutscenes” is what saves Ryse, the model “in game” looks NOTHING like the prints you showed, Am I lying? no, and I’ll prove it right now.

      Ryse is so shity that there’s no dept of field, the only time you see DOF is when there’s QE/time events, It’s smoke, rain (in “Ryse” there’s no real weather system) and particle effects are horrible!

      Do I have to mention Ryse isn’t even open world? or it’s bad review scores? or it’s short campaign? meh…

    • Gamez Rule

      You must be so proud of Ryse running at 16FPS at 900p☺☺☺

      Or maybe you’re also proud of Titanfall being a screen-tearing, pixelated, laggy piece of turd.

    • Belazur .

      Poor guy!

      The PS4 being more powerful + 100$/€ is killing this guy.

      All these monthly sales numbers are hurting these Xtards.

      No wonder that —> “Xbox owners are deserting Microsoft consoles for the PlayStation 4″ HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
      LINK: http://games.yahoo.com/news/xbox-owners-deserting-microsoft-consoles-playstation-4-174504783.html

    • mekh_grg

      ;D

    • mekh_grg
  • Guest

    Shots fired by Sucker Punch lol.

    “If you’re someone that has to support multiple platforms, especially if one is slightly less powerful than the other one, then you’re kinda in trouble right?”

    http://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2013/06/Xbox-one-PS4-dragon-ball-fight.gif

    • DJ KID BLAST

      yer the system thats running on a last gen dx11 copied api…. while next week xbox moves into the next gen era! with double the power of the weakstation hahaah

      • neko working

        hahaha.. amusing.. then why not M$ sues Sony over propietary DX already ? LOL

      • Averix

        Shouldn’t all fanboys be playing Titanfall? Wait, that’s right. Players play, fanboys rant.

        • shinitaru

          Naw, calling this guy a fanboy would be a complement, fanboys tend to at least bring something plausible, even if they are completely wrong. This guy is just a troll, and not a very good one.

      • Stranger On The Road

        Assuming you believe what you posted; the PS4 uses OpenGL 4.x + PS own graphics API [the same goes for Wii U, by the way]. DirectX is a proprietary API that is only available on a Microsoft platform, such as Windows, Windows Phone and XB.

        By the way, a new API doesn’t mean more power, just more options and perhaps another way to accomplish something better.

      • superkarma

        It’s very obvious you don’t have the slightest clue what you’re talking about.

        If you honestly believe DX12 will give the X1 double the power, I feel incredibly sorry for you. Not only are you embarrassing yourself by saying software somehow improves hardware, but you’re coming off as very desperate and insecure.

      • Belazur .

        Double the power? What power? Do you think their API will somehow upgrade their hardware? You can do what you want, software-wise. It doesn’t matter, when the GPU of the XBone is a piece of shit and around 40 – 50% weaker than the PS4 GPU. You can’t upgrade hardware.

        Jesus Christ…. fanboys these days….

        • dranzer1

          DX12 uses less resources while giving more results giving it more potential than ps4..

          • shinitaru

            Okay, assuming that is true, 1) the best you can hope for is that it is just a few % more efficient, the frames still need to be rendered at the same speed 2)the GPU needs to support the new API’s. XB1′s GPU does not support DX12 since it doesn’t even exist yet. The XB1 was in the drawing room a year ago, maybe more. There is no way they could have written instructions for API’s that wouldn’t exist for a long time. Having said that, there will probably be coding improvements and enhancements to the existing DX11.2 API’s that will help improve performance by a very slim margin but don’t expect miracles because they aren’t coming

          • dranzer1

            Clearly states XBOX ONE at the bottom left of GDC dx12 pic

          • shinitaru

            Run along, little boy. The adults are trying to have a converation

          • Michael Norris

            That is bullshit, and you know it.First off OpenGL gets improved often also Sony has the ICE team that builds up the SDK to make it more efficient.You are wrong man sorry to spoil your day.

      • cozomel

        BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you just proved how delsuional you are. Have fun being letdown again. You do know that just cuz a card is labeled DX whatever doesnt mean its powerful. There are always extremely weak versions of the card that can barely perform at their DX level, but are just labeled that way so they can marketed it as DXxx to try and sell it to the suckers. The chip in the X1 is consider weak for even DX11, none the less DX12. And i bet you, you are only going to get a minor subset of its features. Man, you Xbots are just as bad and delusional as Wii U fanboys now, believe all the bs. MS knows just how to fool ya’s, they just keep stringing you suckers along.Prepare to be letdown again. BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
        And p.s. how the cloud, DX11, dGPU or the secret sauce go? This is the new secret sauce , eh? Keep being stupid xbots, keep being stupid, MS is laughing all the way to the bank, you suckers>

        • Michael Norris

          LOL yea,DX is a marketing tool for MS nothing more.

      • Jessika S.

        Don’t set your dreams to high come down a bit.

      • Michael Norris

        DX12 won’t do much for Xbone it will code better to metal that is all,also OpenGL has a great development community.You will see DX12 tricks on OpenGL,best of luck tho..720 is in your future.

    • DJ KID BLAST

      the powwwwwerrrr!!!!

      • phillip

        You obviously haven’t seen The Order.

      • Fersay Ferrera

        Are you 12?

      • saiyanknight87

        Lol Anthony does your butthurt know no bounds geez you are a true super fanboy…

      • Flyte_79

        LOL nice, comparing a pre rendered cut scene to in engine gameplay, stay classy!

        Hey, I can play silly screenshots too! Here’s a more realistic comparison:

        • Jecht_Sin

          Dang. You posted it when I was writing the exact same thing! lol

      • Jecht_Sin

        PC pre-rendered cutscenes against in-game footage. Nice try.

      • Flyte_79

        And notice that my PS4 screen is a real in engine 1080p screenshot? Can the DumbAmericanBox One produce ANYTHING like that? Even in 720p? lol no.

      • cozomel

        I guess you dont know that the Ryse screen is prerendered whereas the infamous is in engine realtime. Xbots truly are the dumbest bunch and MS loves y’all for that

      • http://www.Kwamejoseph.com/ ProPaperPusher

        Enjoy your 720p Twitch app….while I enjoy 1080p Gaming…

      • Diablo_Jambe11

        Maybe you want to go look up what that scene you posted actually is lol. It’s a pre-rendered cut-scene. Crytek even said it themselves lol. Where as Infamous is actually in game.

      • lesrima88

        xbox one defense force activate!

      • Bilal Prince- Ali

        welll fool… pretty impressive comparing an open world game with a a linear story driver action game.. you clearly dont know how to compare things.. you should compare The Last Of Us too viva pinata!? ¬___¬

      • Michael Norris

        Pre rendered like a mofo….

    • Jordan

      lol a funny one there.

  • Redinferno124

    The trolling is really picking up for this game. Wasn’t this bad for Titanfall, and it was bad.

    • shinitaru

      Did you expect any less from them?

      • Redinferno124

        No but at this point, it’s beating a dead horse. Really wish Halo 5 was out just so there was something else to talk about.

        • shinitaru

          We had Titanfall just last week but now nobody wants to talk about that anymore and Infamous is pretty much it for the rest of the year till around X-mas so this is like the last hurrah for them

          • Redinferno124

            Wouldn’t have been a problem had they not hyped the shit out of it. They really need to put out Halo 2 anniversary to give these people something to do.

    • Preston queener

      Ya I know trolls swarming like flies for example dj kid, obamabush, and Steph

      • You are flat out wrong

        Let those mouth breathers cry their impotent b*tch tears, it doesn’t hide the fact the PS4 is getting the two GOTMs, Infamous and Ground Zeroes.

    • DemonFenton

      Kinda like this, Xbox Mafia at this point looking for ANYTHING to troll upon even if the game isn’t out yet. Face it they are grasping for straws for an UNRELEASED game and making themselves look pretty bad mind you. Infamous Second Sons to me look great in the previews and if it’s like the second game it’s going to be one heck of an PS4 exclusive.

  • You are flat out wrong

    And this is just the start of the gen. Can’t wait to see what new SDKs and drivers can do to really get the hardware to sing.

    “Bu bu but muh DX12!!!!”

    • Robbie Yarber

      “DX12 will at last unlock the Xbone’s secret sauce, and we’ll really show those Sony Ponies with 4k games!!!”

      They actually believe that! LOL

      • You are flat out wrong

        misterxmedia is back to the whole hidden hardware crap after being humiliated over it last year. You’d think he’d get a clue.

  • Eagles83

    Infamous 2 killed my first PS3. Here is to hoping my PS4 fares better this go around. :)

  • Rene Nguyen

    Man there’s so much emphasis on graphics in these threads. In the end gameplay is king, and everything else is secondary. Visuals enhance the experience but shouldn’t necessary break it. As long as it isn’t piss ugly then I don’t think it shouldn’t matter too much.

    I think Titanfall looks good, I think inFamous; Second Son looks good, I think Ryse looks good. But what plays well and what doesn’t? That should be the most important. We’ve gotten to a point where visuals look good enough already. We should allocate more power to making better gameplay. At least, that’s my opinion.

    • Stranger On The Road

      How dare you make sense and be reasonable on the Internet? Let alone have a good opinion! That’s it; your Internet access is revoked :-)

      Any way, I do agree that we reached a point where the graphics do look more than satisfactory and other elements of gameplay should be focused on. As an example; how can it be truly open world when I can’t make my own path? I’m not referring here to having multiple paths to achieve the same objective or multiple way to do the same thing. But literally making your own path; as in “the target is at the otherside of town”.. hummm, perhaps I can drive this tank through every house in the way until I reach the target?

      Gameplay haven’t really changed a lot, and to me that is what would make a game truly next-generation. Otherwise, I was satisfied with the graphics on the previous generation… just didn’t like the ‘loading’ time and limited option.

  • Ken

    the pudgy bastard is just angry his mum didn’t buy him a PS4 so he can’t experience what is Infamous.

    I’d be pissed off too if I got stuck with a Xbox 360 version 2 but I’m not a sheep..

  • Redinferno124
    • Robbie Yarber

      What… is he humping a TV? LMAO

    • datdude

      Is that electricity…..coming from da a$$???

    • Redinferno124

      Take note of whats on the computer screen.

  • lester perdomo

    devs always say these things when making an exclusive game… like respawn saying titanfall pushes the power of the cloud … ..its just a gimmick. were 4 months in on new consoles …we havent seen anything yet …

  • Michael Balchunas

    Thats funny what he was saying about the speed of Delsin moving through the city and not being able to gaurantee if it will load corretly if he moves faster then that. I was FLYING last night on Need for Speed Rivals in the Mclarin P1 fully upgraded and I was seeing cops and road blocks/tire spikes fall out of the sky. I was just moving too fast for the level to load XD.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    They should release the next Infamous game in three years so that they can commemorate 20 years of being in the industry.

  • GameonAll

    This is awesome and makes sense. Have to love how you losers turn it into a console war – amazingly pathetic.

  • born_naughty

    This is disturbing. The new consoles are supposed to be very powerful yet according to this the limit has almost been reached already. In the past this would never have happened so soon.

    • datdude

      Uhhh…you do realize that even super powered pc’s have limitations, right? And what exactly do you expect for 400-500 dollars, unlimited performance? Geez…

      • born_naughty

        Not exactly my point. Everything has limitations. But when I bought my ps3 at launch for example it was a very powerful machine which potential was only unlocked years later. If the above article is correct that won’t be the case at all this generation.

        Which doesn’t mean it’s gonna be any less enjoyable or anything. I was just making an observation. Because Sucker Punch says it like it’s a good thing and I don’t see it that way.

        • datdude

          I don’t believe for a second this game is pushing the ps4 even near it’s limits. I don’t feel you should believe it either. I’m sure there is plenty coders can learn to improve performance in the future, as tricks will be learned and shortcuts now unknown will be found. It happens every gen, where some developer claims to be “maxing” the system, only come to find years later devs are still pulling better and better experiences out of the tech. They are only scratching the surface at this point.

          • born_naughty

            Exactly my feelings. If it’s true it would be very bad imo. But I’m sure devs will find ways to get more out of the system each year.

          • born_naughty

            It’s just a bit stupid that developers keep saying this. Is this supposed to make me buy the system (and the game)? I love Infamous though, and I think this one will improve the predecessors considerably (and I usely don’t buy 3 games in a series). It’ll be a long time untill I can play it though :-(. I can’t afford a PS4 right now.

      • shinitaru

        Besides, this is just a talking point. When they say that they use 90% they are really saying that there are scenes where they reach that threshold briefly, assuming it’s not pure spin. You hear this same kind of thing every time some groundbreaking new game comes along.
        Even if true, what they are really saying (even if they aren’t aware of it) is that they have reached the current limit using the techniques that are available to them right now. The console is new, they have no idea what it possible or what new ways will present themselves to squeeze out more performance or efficiency.

    • Jecht_Sin

      They always say so. Then Naughty Dog and R* publish a game.. And then another one. And another again. Raising the bar each time. :)

      • born_naughty

        That’s probably true. :-)

  • Xtreme Derp

    Infamous is the best looking next gen game imo even better than Killzone. Soon to be followed by The Order.

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