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Microsoft Announces Q3 Financial Results: 1.2 Million Xbox One Consoles Shipped; Xbox Revenue up 45%

by on April 24, 2014 4:02 PM 424

It’s quarterly financial results day at Microsoft today, and Redmond’s corporation sent in a press release detailing the revenue for the quarter ended on March 31st right in time for the closure of the New York Stock Exchange.

The company announced a revenue of $20.40 billion for the quarter ended on march 31st. Gross margin, operating income, net income, and diluted earnings per share for the quarter were respectively $14.46 billion, $6.97 billion, $5.66 billion, and $0.68 per share.

In addition to that, the revenue mix changed, with cost of revenue increased by 24%, primarily due to increased Xbox and Surface production and expansion of the company’s data centers due to the continuing growth of Microsoft’s online services.

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Of course there are news specific to the Xbox division as well, and according to the company, during the quarter 2 million Xbox consoles were sold in (shipped) to retailers. Of those 1.2 million were Xbox One units, while 800,000 were Xbox 360.

The Xbox platform revenue increased by 45%, contributing to a revenue for the Devices and Consumer Hardware divisio $1.97 billion with an overall increase of 41%. On the other hand gross margin decreased by 34% due to higher Xbox console sales and early lifecycle economics of the Xbox One.

As for the Devices and Consumer Other division, the revenue from transactions on Xbox Live increased by 17%. The press release also reiterated that Titanfall was the number one selling game in North America in March according to the NPD.

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CEO Satya Nadella accompanied the release with a statement:

This quarter’s results demonstrate the strength of our business, as well as the opportunities we see in a mobile-first, cloud-first world. We are making good progress in our consumer services like Bing and Office 365 Home, and our commercial customers continue to embrace our cloud solutions. Both position us well for long-term growth.We are focused on executing rapidly and delivering bold, innovative products that people love to use.

CFO Amy hood also commented:

We delivered solid, broad-based financial results driven by strong execution and continued cost discipline. We are focusing our resources to drive growth and long-term shareholder value.

With another quarter in the bag, Microsoft steams on towards the end of the financial year. One thing is for sure. The Xbox division seems to be quite healthy.

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  • Raven Nafariea

    Shipped… Seriously.. Again with the Shipping?

    • oGMo

      The real sales figures would be far worse, or they’d cite them.

      • Raven Nafariea

        Oh yes, it would be devastating for sure but I know we won’t see any actual data on that for a long long while.

        • Gannicus

          you know True_Fan funny thing is, he cant give up and makes me laugh so hard, his resilience is amazing :d

    • Andre Crawford

      For shareholders that counts as $ In their pocket….all those consoles were sold to retailers

      • oGMo

        Yeah but still not as good as sold through (or whatever), because that indicates future sales of both consoles and games. It’s a poor figure and the only thing it does is hide the extent of the damages.

        And it only puts a lower bound on the difference. With 7 million PS4s sold through and .. what, 5 million XBones sold in, that could look a lot more dire if the complementary numbers were 2.5 million XBones sold through and 14 million PS4s sold in.

        • Andre Crawford

          U have to REMEBER the shareholders are not looking at the ps4 sales figures…this is the quarterly report it has to be reported so that the shareholders can see what state the company is in…and from the looks of things the xbox division is doing good

          Also u must REMEBER that retailers wouldn’t continue buying consoles if they weren’t selling…that’s why only 1 million consoles were shipped in the quarter…that’s a good way of seeing how the console is selling…retailers order more stock when they’ve sold their previous stock

          • oGMo

            You can sure as hell bet they’re looking at PS4 sales figures and wondering why the XBone isn’t the dominant console, especially coming off the 360. Investors are not stupid.

          • Andre Crawford

            Look at the revenue…it’s about money…if u think that the shareholders are like wow the ps4 is selling amazing lets sell our stock that is making us tons of money…ur not thinking to logically…would u sell ur Microsoft stock

          • jnemesh

            Absolutely I would sell. First, they are reporting GROSS revenue. Devices and Services division is still BLEEDING money! 2nd…a “sold-in” console, sitting on store shelves does NO ONE any good. MS is selling the XBox One at a VERY small margin, possibly at a loss right now (with the titanfall pack in), and a console sitting in a warehouse buys no games.

            Windows Phone business is still a drop in the bucket, and not looking to improve…I am betting sales TANK when they rebrand Nokia phones as Microsoft Mobile. Surface is still a still born product, again with minimal sales…and their core business is in trouble with the lackluster performance of Windows (h)8.

            They are coasting on the success of Windows 7 and Office 2013 right now…which is where the VAST majority of its profits come from. That stream WILL dry up over the next couple years…and Microsoft has NOTHING to replace it with. The future of MS looks bleak indeed unless they can turn things around, but my feeling is that it’s too late already.

          • Gannicus

            you do know there business side makes ALOT more money than consumer side?

          • jnemesh

            For now…and the “consumer side” has NEVER made money, not EVER!

          • Gannicus

            ah right, good job it aint only the consumer side then haha, bing seems to be going well, ad related revenues could be up… the next google maybe? even though they need to recoup billion and billions in losses from setting bing up initially

          • jnemesh

            Bing is still deep in the red as well. It’s been a continual money pit for them.

          • Gannicus

            think its turning a profit now, although theres still long way to go to recoup those losses

          • Xtreme Derp

            Bing, Surface, and Xbox are all money pits for ms. Why do you think shareholders don’t like them?

          • oGMo

            That’s declining. Scarily declining. People are not urgently upgrading Windows or Office anymore; PC sales are slowing. They’re moving to other solutions; why buy a PC for browsing and email when you can get an iPad or iPhone for a fraction? Office isn’t as big a deal as it was 10 years ago and generations of using Linux and similar tools are very much eroding their server revenue.

            That’s why they’re pushing so hard to get into other markets. Sadly it’s not looking favorable … Microsoft is just too old, too slow, and too far behind the curve to make it anymore.

          • Gannicus

            yeah consumption devices are replacing PC and stuff, tbh WP is really good I like it but yeah your right there to slow in everything its they love other people getting to market first take there time think hmm we need get into that just like MS’s VR project now its going be a rush job and prolly not that good and no games on X1 are going support and it definitely cant run at 120 fps with out looking worse than forza 5 (I saw the one running on PC and thought WOW, if forza on X1 looked like that sony would of bin in trouble) MS will be fine tbh… they always play the long game I think sometimes its to long and the stuff they do in R+D is pretty good but they let everyone beat them to market constantly its insane…

            DX12 well we screwed the PC gamer over by doing better API’s for our own system now mantles coming $hit better release something for the PC, it is getting a bit of a joke gaming wise

          • dapaintrain

            Your only looking at consumer numbers.

            Pretty much every company around the world has computers. Pretty much every business runs windows on those computers and for the medium size to large businesses they are probably running win server 2003 / 2008 / 2008 r2 / 2013 along with win xp / 7 pro.
            And since xp is out of support allot of companies are left upgrading win xp to 7 as xp is vulnerable to future exploits.

            So that’s billions upon billions of dollers just in corporate operating system sales the home devision and games devision is a drop in the water compared to that. Home users could go all apple and ms would still turn a profit as businesses are not going to switch to apple or Linux.

          • oGMo

            Oh, sure, they’re not going anywhere tomorrow… but they’re actively losing ground, and not gaining any on other fronts. Another Google-esque competitor comes along … or another college kid…

          • oGMo

            One does not have to look back far to find other huge losses on unsold stock in Microsoft’s recent past. This is certainly part of why Ballmer is out. Losing big on the XBone for the third straight generation is not going to sit well with the board or investors.

          • Gannicus

            well with the surface it was a $900million write down so depends if they made a loss on it or not. cus its like for example they were expecting $2billion in revenue, $900mill write down = they now project earnings of $1.1billion so pends if they were losing money on the actual cost of making it or not

          • oGMo

            Overall loss or not, even Microsoft does not ignore a nearly $1 billion write-off. Sure they may have made a bunch elsewhere, but that’s a huge huge gouge in their income.

          • Gannicus

            they lost $5billion in the first year of setting up bing…

          • sonyntendosteam

            Xbox has never been in first place since 2001 to 2014 and three generations straight.
            I don’t think that is praise worthy.

            Its like an NBA team never ever won a finals championship for 13 years straight.

            While PlayStation has surpassed them 3 feat grand slam.

          • traind

            I am glad you are not my investment analyst

          • DougLord

            Do all Sony fans sick with numbers. Consumer Hardware and other (non windows or office licences) mad $1.1bbn of PROFIT in the quarter. Sony is projected to loose $1st in 2014 (year ends in march so it’s basically a done deal).

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            PS4 sold 20.5 million software units as of April 1 2014, that’s a 2.92 attach rate.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

            Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

            The gaming division and first party studios are well funded and making a profit. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

            Sony is still worth 18.5 billion. They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

            Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
            Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
            Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

            Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
            #87 in Sales
            #171 in Assets
            #547 in Market value
            78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

            http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/132049-Sony-Q3-2013-Financials-PC-Division-Will-Be-Sold-PS4-Pushes-Income-Up

            http://www.forbes.com/companies/sony

          • You are flat out wrong

            Revenue =/= profit

          • Will Robinson

            Sony doesnt make any money off of their ps4 because of $399. They dropped the price of the ps4 from $499 the day of E3 and its hurting them…..theyre only worth 16 billion as a whole

          • oGMo

            You keep telling yourself that.

            Meanwhile actual facts show the PS4 comes in under cost at $381 and they’re actually making a profit, albeit slim, at $399.

          • DougLord

            The combination of the costs of all the parts does not equal the real cost. Add in labor, logistics, retailer margin. Sony is bleeding to death trying to win this generation.

          • Sucka Free

            You’re really trying too hard.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            PS4 sold 20.5 million software units as of April 1 2014, that’s a 2.92 attach rate.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

            Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

            The gaming division and first party studios are well funded and making a profit. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

            Sony is still worth 18.5 billion. They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

            Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
            Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
            Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

            Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
            #87 in Sales
            #171 in Assets
            #547 in Market value
            78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

            http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/132049-Sony-Q3-2013-Financials-PC-Division-Will-Be-Sold-PS4-Pushes-Income-Up

            http://www.forbes.com/companies/sony,

          • You are flat out wrong

            Keep being wrong. They were always aiming for the $399 price point. SCE made a profit last quarter.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games.

            Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

        • Gannicus

          sony says 7million PS4′s sold to customers which is good I wonder how many consoles they’ve got not sold cus theres plenty of consoles in the UK not sold so would be good to see those figures from sony cus then could see if there in decline/normalizing to a normal sales trend cus ppl would still of bin wanting after xmas for a period of time and maybe the people wanting them have bin fulfilled so now its declined to a steady sales stream… is there anywhere to find that out?

          • Andre Crawford

            It would be in there sales report for the company if they ever release it

          • Gannicus

            I think people in the US are still clambering for them and plenty of ppl wanting but not getting so if they reduced stream of console into Europe countries which are on the decline and pushed more into the US they’ll get more sales obviously also drop Japan off a bit cus there not that interested really, for a home country there not as interested as they should be its more mobile focused these days so yah

          • Andre Crawford

            Naw the ps4 is readily available in the us just go to now in stock ull see…their everywhere

          • Gannicus

            ah right, is it just certain states in America then cus UK can fit in the smallest state in America I think? if so seems like sales are normalizing to what they should be

          • They Call Me Senpai

            Around you maybe, you can’t speak for other states.

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            I regret to inform you, but you can’t put stock in PlayStation. Just like you can’t put stock in Xbox. Want to put stock in Sony or Microsoft? Go ahead! But of the two companies, MS is leagues ahead of Sony. AKA, the best bet, AKA the healthier company, AKA where investors are going.

            You can play the “PS4 is better, so investors should invest in PS” card all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that Sony isn’t a company that people are investing in right now – in fact, the case is the complete opposite.

          • Gannicus

            eh im completely baffled by that, got no idea what your talking about?

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            The report that this article is sourcing from has very little to do with Xbox itself, and nothing to do with PlayStation. Thus, regardless of how many PS4′s have been sold (same goes for Xbox Ones) that feature in-and-of itself isn’t the only thing that these companies do, and isn’t what this report is discussing.

            Microsoft has its phones, OSs, tablets, gaming platforms, cloud services, etc etc…

            Sony has its phones, TVs, record labels, general entertainment hardware, gaming platforms, etc etc…

            You can bring up PS4′s 7+million vs XO’s 5+million, and then sub-divide that into sold-thorugh vs shipped, but that’s nitpicking the larger scope – aka, the important scope.

          • Gannicus

            well not really cus PS4′s figures are sold to customers yet I know theres instant supply in England also other ppl know there instant supply in America so to bring figures more in line with each other would be good to know how many PS4′s have bin shipped to retailers and how many sold… cus sure 7million is impressive BUT if 9 million bin shipped for example only 1.5-2mill remain unsold? everyone hammering MS about shipped and sold why cant sony be under the same scrutiny… I do acknowledge PS4 is selling a lot better BUT without figures in line with each other its ridiculous, every PS4 shipped is NOT being sold so why cant we have those figures to? doesn’t make any sense

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            It makes sense, but I’m not sure we’re having the same conversation. XD

            Not sure where the lines got crossed, so my bad for ‘starting something’ when you weren’t talking about what I thought you were.

          • Gannicus

            yeah we aren’t your first post completely misunderstood what I was saying haah :d so yah

          • They Call Me Senpai

            I’d rather put my money behind Sony, they’re the safest bet because they actually learn from their mistakes and improve on them. Nothing you’re saying is even slightly relevant.

          • scotmacb

            You talk crap sony is shutting its tv division down because they are struggling ms is doing great from making the right decisions idiot

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            Sony is suffering – regardless of which devision it is. One life-raft won’t save the Titanic.

          • Sucka Free

            I can see it, years from now you will still be singing that same tune. Quit dreaming, Sony is not going to fail.

          • Bobby Griffin

            it will take sony two years to make what ms makes in 3 months lmao

          • Sucka Free

            So what? Sony doesn’t NEED to be that big or make that much money to continue to provide a great console. All that money didn’t magically make the Xbox (any version) magically better than it’s competition. If money were the only factor, there would be no contest. The reality proves otherwise

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            I said suffering – not dying. Denying this is denying reality.

            I don’t want Sony to go anywhere, just like I don’t want Microsoft, Vizio, Samsung, LG, RCA, Nokia, Apple, Nintendo, Valve, (etc.) to go anywhere.

            You can ‘fanboy’ all you want, but that doesn’t change the situation.

          • Sucka Free

            “One life-raft won’t save the Titanic.”

            That sound like a fatal scenario to me. Also, not everyone who disagrees with you is a ‘fanboy”.

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            It’s an exaggerated metaphor to convey a point. I’m sorry you misunderstood it.

            Hence the quotations. They simply imply that that’s the best word for my thoughts despite them not being the most accurate. You’re definitely not a fanboy (not in the negative sense at least), but you’re a fan of Sony’s platform(s) and a “not-fan” of Microsoft’s platform(s)… Idk about Nintendo’s plats, but that’s kinda irrelevant so whatever.

          • Sucka Free

            I can accept that. non-apology accepted. ;D

            I like Nintendo, I have a 3DS that is actually my 2nd favorite platform but I’m still waiting to pull the trigger on a Wii U, though I would love to play Super Mario 3d World & DK: Tropical Freeze, they are not enough to get me to shell out $300

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            I’d say Mario Kart 8 would be a fine time to pull the trigger, or at the very latest, later this winter when Smash Bros comes out. I got mine last September, and unfortunately, its primary function thus far has been to collect dust.

          • http://www.fatsackofcrap.com Xtreme Derp Is A Douche

            http://i.imgur.com/O19VJxC.gif

            Time to convert M8

          • http://www.fatsackofcrap.com Xtreme Derp Is A Douche
          • Sucka Free

            So? Are you trying to say that the PC has better graphics? I don’t think that’s news to anyone.

          • Xtreme Derp

            MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games.

            Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

            Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

          • TomaszSzkudlarek

            How is that relevant? This just proves, that despite of poor market situation, they want to deliver top quality product, and this is their goal, not the joy of investors. If MS will start to struggle, i am pretty sure, they will cut xbox division without a doubt.

          • DougLord

            $81bbn of debt and unfunded pensions. Only $18bbn of equity. Declining revenues. Margin down 27% over 3 years. Almost $10bbn Of losses since 2011. Stock down 87%. Yeah it’s dying

          • Sucka Free

            Bet you it doesn’t matter. I bet that you will still be on your knees begging for them to fail 10 yrs from now. It’s never going to happen. But I understand, you have to cling to something, otherwise you would have to accept that your crappy, cheap piece of plastic will never break out of a distant 2nd place…assuming that Nintendo never gets their sh*t together and kicks them out of the competition altogether.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

            Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

            The gaming division and first party studios are well funded and making a profit. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

            Sony is still worth 18.5 billion. They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

            Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
            Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
            Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

            Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
            #87 in Sales
            #171 in Assets
            #547 in Market value
            78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

          • Xtreme Derp

            Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

          • Sucka Free

            Right decisions? You mean like WinPhone, Surface, and Win8?

          • https://www.youtube.com/ButtonBros TheRedButterfly

            Good thing I wasn’t talking to you then.

          • DougLord

            Sony stock has lost 87% of its value since 2000. FROM $140 TO $17.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            PS4 sold 20.5 million software units as of April 1 2014, that’s a 2.92 attach rate.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

            Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

            The gaming division and first party studios are well funded and making a profit. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

            Sony is still worth 18.5 billion. They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

            Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
            Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
            Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

            Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
            #87 in Sales
            #171 in Assets
            #547 in Market value
            78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

            http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/132049-Sony-Q3-2013-Financials-PC-Division-Will-Be-Sold-PS4-Pushes-Income-Up

            http://www.forbes.com/companies/sony,,

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games.

            Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

            Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

      • Raven Nafariea

        Sure, however it is not selling as expected and stores have too much in stock so the trouble comes into play because they are not ordering anymore or very few. MS shareholders are not very happy right now because of this.

        • uptownsoul

          Add the fact that retailers are selling consoles at a loss, and giving away games to boot. And that is even more reason for retailers not to order Xbox One consoles in large bulk

          • Gannicus

            I don’t think the retailers are selling at a loss tbh, I think whats more than likely happening is MS is reimbursing them for any monies lost on the price of the consoles cus it doesn’t make sense that these prices can drop it so much and retailers taking it on the chin.

          • uptownsoul

            Okay, the reimbursement may be true, but retailers still won’t make their future orders very large even if they’re recouping any loss because most retailers are in business to make profit.

          • Gannicus

            well its like most stuff retailer hold this stuff and can give discounts similar to how supermarkets work and there price deals, they do this in the hope you spend more money while your there, maybe they aren’t being subsidized and making money back on software sales or ppl purchasing a new HD TV while there or a sound system or something etc… I suppose there no point thinking about it cus I doubt us lot are ever going know anyway but its just one of those thoughts I had

          • uptownsoul

            No, i get you. I call it like door busters, something to get you into the door. But i think thats done more with smaller electronics and games for instance (buy 1 get 1 half off kinda thing). Most retailers don’t do “door busters” with their major ticket items. And don’t forget, to most of these major retailers shelf and back room stock space is valuable. And they really want to keep those areas for money making products

          • Gannicus

            yeah maybe smaller ones just think cut there losses sell at a loss, gauge the sales keep a small amount, then fill it up with stuff that sells, and just keep games in. Although id of thought though at least for the smaller chains to send unsold stock back for a refund

        • Andre Crawford

          They are ordering more…they shipped 1.2 million in the quarter…u realize that the retailers ordered that 1.2 million right

          • uptownsoul

            But you do realize if retailers are selling Xbox One consoles at a loss, that they will slow down future orders for that product. I mean you don’t order a lot of a product, sell it at a loss, and then go back and order a lot more.

          • Raven Nafariea

            I never said that they were not ordering more. Did you read what I said? I said not ordering more or VERY FEW. Imagine how many they would have shipped if they were selling! Probably quadruple that of 1.2m. Stores were having a hard time selling the console that is why they are having to run sales and give away Titanfall for free. Anything they can do to get them out of there stock room. I doubt stores will be ordering tons more if they had that problem to begin with.

          • Andre Crawford

            I can agree with that

      • Sucka Free

        Which would be good, if they were trying to turn a profit (assuming that they are still making money on the console after all the cuts and bundle) but they are trying to establish market cred. We’ve seen retailers cut the price by as much as $100, just to get them moving

    • Daniel Bennett

      Microsoft should start writing fan fiction, since they love shipping so much.

    • islan

      Isn’t that all that matters to Microsoft’s financials? Sold to customers is what matters to the retailers’ financials.

    • Failz

      Kids like you don’t understand business. Shareholders don’t look at the Sales race. Xbox is winning in its division regardless if it finishes 1st 2nd or 3rd in the Console Wars. But to you that’s very hard to understand.

      • You are flat out wrong

        Good job there’s that licensing to cover up the Xbone’s stumbling at retail.

      • Xtreme Derp

        Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

      • You are flat out wrong

        Xbox barely factors into D&C, let alone the entire company. They could it ditch it tomorrow and it wouldn’t make a scrap of difference.

  • superkarma

    Yay…again with the shipping stats. *yawn*

    • Delsin Rowe

      at least some of us can get a use of it.lol

  • Gannicus

    seems there doing quite well if you look at it as a whole, surface revenues up 365 subscriptions up, xbox shipped well tbh its still money in the bank… hmm actually looking at the D&C hardware graph 41% decline hmm well its not at 0 yet so there technically ok!!! ah comparing to the figures last year hmm not really sure so I wont comment on it

    • Xtreme Derp

      MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

  • Johnnie

    Always shipped, never sold.

    • Andre Crawford

      Shipped is sold…just sold to retailers….the retailers then turn ard and sell to customers…that’s how business works

      • superkarma

        And yet, it’s been about 5 months since Microsoft last gave an actual sold to consumer figure. I wonder why.

        • Andre Crawford

          Does it really matter that much….wow…some ppl would it help u sleep at night….u probably don’t even have an xbox one so how would it help you to know

          • superkarma

            Does it really matter? Nah, not really. It is quite amusing to see Microsoft constantly beating around the bush and remaining quiet about sales for nearly half a year, though. I’m simply making an observation, that’s all.

          • Andre Crawford

            That’s understandable…can’t be mad at observations…I like that they are being quiet…I hate these console wars….I get labeled as a Microsoft fanboy when I have more sony products than Microsoft…I don’t like all the hate that is slung there way…I feel some of it is deserved but not all of it…I really hope they never annouced sold through figures because it just flames the war more

          • Raven Nafariea

            Hey, I can totally understand that. No hate on my part or ill will to you I promise. I respect your comments even if I do not agree fully with them. =)

          • Andre Crawford

            Thanks…I like having conversation and I don’t think uve showed me Ill will ever on this site…dual shockers is pretty tame compared to most sites and I visit a lot of them….I like hearing viewpoints…and I’m not afraid to take opposing viewpoints….I believe if Microsoft was doing better I would constantly defend sony…I think I just like the underdog that’s all…lol

          • Raven Nafariea

            I can understand that, I usually root for the underdog as well. Thanks for being so cool =)

          • superkarma

            You do have a good point. These numbers really are useless…unless you’re an investor for Sony/Microsoft. All they do is fan the flames and continue the war. At the end of the day, we all know both consoles will sell well.

          • Andre Crawford

            The ps4 is selling much better anyone with eyes can see that…but us gamers have to focus on how great this gen has already been btw my xbox one my ps4 and my vita I have to many games to play and not enough time…I haven’t even finished ACIV or tomb raider yet….my backlog is already building up…it’s a great time to play games no matter what console you are on

          • Xtreme Derp

            Go play some games and stop whining about sales talk that “doesn’t matter” then.

          • Sucka Free

            You do have a good point, but I don’t agree that MS should be let off the hook so quickly. When I see that they’ve learned the same lesson that Sony did last gen, I will cut them some slack.

          • Xtreme Derp

            You obviously care since you’re here arguing about it, hypocrite.,

          • Xtreme Derp

            You obviously care since you’re here arguing about it, hypocrite.

    • bleedsoe9mm

      the funny part sony can’t tell you how many have been sold to consumers , they can tell you how many manufactured and how many sold to retailers , but they can’t tell you how many are in homes

      • Johnnie

        Actually, you are mistaken. Sony makes it a point of letting everyone know they’ve sold through (meaning to the retailer, and then from the retailer to the consumer) 7 million where as Microsoft repeatedly only gives the shipped to/sold to retailers numbers.

        • bleedsoe9mm

          Actually , they can’t tell you that its a PR number and will never be in a sony earnings report , actually ms is in a better position to give actual numbers in homes , since the xb1 has to be connected to the internet before using it , the ps4 doesn’t and sony isn’t getting sales numbers from every retailer that sells ps4′s .

          • Johnnie

            I think you’re high…no one can tell you the exact number in homes for various reasons, such as the fact that the Xbox needs to connect once then can go into offline mode, or people breaking systems and not getting new ones and so on and so forth. You can’t track them once they leave the stores, but numbers don’t lie, dude. Sony has sold through 7 million, Microsoft has shipped 5.

          • bleedsoe9mm

            numbers lie all the time , sony number isn’t real and neither is the MS number

          • You are flat out wrong

            Wow, you just embarrassed yourself pretty hard.

          • bleedsoe9mm

            the gullibility of fanboys is what is embarrassing

          • You are flat out wrong

            7 million PS4s sold to consumers, 4.2 million Xbones sold to consumers. That gap’s only going to get wider too.

          • Xtreme Derp

            LOL dumb malicious ms fanboy trying to play damage control “SONY’S NUMBERS AREN’T REAL!!1 THEY REALLY ONLY SOLD 6 MILLION!!”

      • Xtreme Derp

        They said over 7 million, it’s at least that number. It’s not 100% accurate but close and you’re just spinning ms damage control.

      • superkarma

        Are you this delusional? Every company can tell you how much of their product was sold to consumer. Of course Sony knows how many PS4′s were sold to consumers…which is now over 7 million. Please, just stop commenting on something you clearly don’t know about.

        • bleedsoe9mm

          every company can tell you exactly how many they manufactured and shipped , and every retailer can tell you how much they sold but these information sources never cross nor could they , sony is selling to too many different retailers to get actual numbers , and if you think they can you need too grow up and work in the real world

          • superkarma

            Yeah…you really are delusional and have absolutely no idea how the business world works. Thanks for confirming that.

          • bleedsoe9mm

            lol ya your magic fairy dust sounds great you should try to sell it you’d make a fortune

    • You are flat out wrong

      Shipped to the landfill. Maybe that’s why they’re digging up Alamogordo!

  • mekh_grg

    good?

  • Dikan45

    HERE WE GO!!!

    • Sucka Free

      Wheeeeee!

  • static5125

    Here’s an interesting point of reference. Microsoft shipped 1.7 m 360′s from January to March 2006. X1 shipments are actually behind those of the 360. So while the X1 enjoyed the best launch of the Xbox family, it was probably more of a flash in a pan moment. That does not bode well…

  • Jewy McJew

    I LOVE my PS4 and I LOVE fanboyism (like Dennis Miller says, Jews are not violent but occasionally we debate someone to death).

    But I am so curious why Microsoft just can’t get any love, specially on message boards. It can’t be due to Microsoft’s “arrogance” because Apple is the most arrogant company in the world and people love them!

    Microsoft has a very serious image problem.

    • vicky

      they need to sack major nelson and hire hot PR women, Its the only way to distract people from their evil practices, like the israeli army and its “spokeswomen”.

      • Jewy McJew

        Really? Was that really necessary on a video game message board?

    • Xtreme Derp

      MS has a lot of bad rep with gamers since their initial Xbox One reveal.

      ms fanboys are the most rabid, delusional, and constantly wrong of any period in console history. Just look at misterxmedia’s blog, it’s unprecedented.

      • Jewy McJew

        If they just made their online sharing system optional to downloaded games only, I think they would have had a winner.

        Ironically, their original plan was VERY generous. Sharing your games instantly with 10 friends? That’s insane! But man they made us all so paranoid with their horrible sales pitch.

  • TZuck

    3.9 + 1.2 = 5.1M Xbox Ones Shipped. but still sad that they only shipped 1.2 million over 3 months. thats 400,000 units a month, globally. Meanwhile PS4 was sitting at 4.2 million sold at end of 2013, selling 2.8 million in the last quarter, or 930,000+ sales a month. quarter sales revenue was $1,120M: PS4 to $600M: XBO.

    Also does anyone else think it’s weird that Microsoft’s financial year ends in the summer? I’m so used to company’s fiscal year ending in March…

  • Delsin Rowe

    guys , dont mess up with xbox. they cant sell enough so they have to post how much they shipped. lol
    god , how much i can goie to see the real number ?! lol

  • True_Fan

    ps4 fans are just mad because when sony reports its earnings they will see another billion dollar loss, their umbrella has a ton of leaks.

    • Delsin Rowe

      go back to sleep kid.

      • True_Fan

        lol the anger.

        • Delsin Rowe

          why ? i’m really in the mode right now.

          • Xtreme Derp

            lol

          • Xytan

            LOL

    • static5125

      A billion dollar loss coming from outsourcing their TV division and selling their PC business, two of Sony’s largest losing departments. Yeah…. Nice try

      • True_Fan

        Its still a billion dollar loss.

        • static5125

          And what point are you trying to make? Exactly… You’re just trying to draw ire from Playstation fans. Your beloved company doesn’t have that many good things to say, so you’re basically taking your frustration out on us.

          Not to mention, the billion dollar loss was already predicted, instead of being a horrible surprise. The fact that Sony is getting rid of two of its largest losing divisions will allow the company to earn profits more easily. So in actuality, you should have been wishing that Sony did not sell off their TV and PC divisions.

        • vicky

          but the playstation division is extremely profitable now. playstation is sony.

          xbox is 1 bad year away from being shut down by ms board of directors.

          • D-Kon

            Playstation is not Sony…also what part of increase did you not understand?? Those figures show MS and xbox doing just fine. It even mentions that at the end of the article

          • superkarma

            Playstation is not Sony…what? I never realized another company owned Playstation.

          • D-Kon

            Playstation is a part of Sony..a cog in the wheel..not the wheel itself..smh

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

            Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money.

            Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

          • vicky

            The playstation boss Kaz hirai got promoted to sony CEO after bringing playstation 3 back to life, He is now rebuilding the company around playstation.

    • Jimmy DoneGood

      It’s true. Sony will probably report another billion dollar loss on May 10.

      • Delsin Rowe

        well, they can take care of us. thats important to us. nobody cares how much they lost , they alway taking care of us.

        • True_Fan

          You sound pathetic, sony is stroking you and ps4 fans accept everything.

          • Delsin Rowe

            we can have this. you know that ? lol

          • Raven Nafariea

            Ha! Nice. Remember your advice to me yesterday? hehe

          • Delsin Rowe

            yes. but i’m not argue with them. i just wanna show them the better way.lol

          • Raven Nafariea

            Okay Dokey, Go get’em boy… hehe

          • Delsin Rowe

            they already quit. i was just getting started.lol

          • Xtreme Derp

            Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.
            ,

      • Xtreme Derp

        They’ll be making a profit soon after spinning off the TV business and selling Vaio. The rest of Sony is turning a profit.

        Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

    • superkarma

      Why would PS4 fans be mad about something that doesn’t affect them? I fail to see your point.

      • D-Kon

        You could ask them why they care about xbox sales…these numbers don’t do anything for us. Funny thing is this report shows increase yet the comments speak adversly

    • Jecht_Sin

      Mad? We are not mad. Just laughing at MS always telling irrelevant numbers. Like “shipped” instead of “sold to customers”.

      What don’t they do to make the Xbone looking less miserable than what it is. ^_^

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

      MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves.

      Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

      Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

      MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

      Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money.

      Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

  • Jimmy DoneGood

    Well done MS. Windows PC and Xbox are my platforms of choice.

  • stealth20k

    The gap between PS4 and X1 is even larger than people thought.

    360 sales also dropped off. Great profit news, Game news is so so

  • vicky

    this tells me there are almost 1 million xboxes sitting on retailer shelves. And worldwide shipments have slowed down to 400k unit per month.

    Ps4 7million sold to customers, with worldwide shipments at 1million per month.

    by the end of the year, at this rate it will be 15 million PS4 sold to customers. vs 8 million xboxes.

    • 2wisted

      How does 1.2 million shipped equate to 1 million sitting on shelves when Xbox did like 300k in March alone? 400K of that max is sitting on shelves

      • Jecht_Sin

        Because those 300K Xbones sold in March were still part of the old total of 3.9 million consoles shipped in January. Close to a million still sitting on shelves is just about right. Well, more like 700K now.

      • vicky

        they only sold 3 million of the previous 3.9 million they announced as shipped.

        march was also tittyfall month and did nothing for hardware sales.

        in the UK, retailers are desperate to get rid of titanfall bundles, they are selling it for £349 plus a free controller or free forza copy.

        The RRP for xbone here is £429. The retailers are selling £80 cheaper with 2 free games. They sound over stocked to me. desperate to get rid. Storage in warehouse is expensive.

        • 2wisted

          Oh okay, fair enough my mistake. Cheers for the correction!
          Good performance then, but still needs a pricecut if they wanna match PS4, they should just match PS4′s RRP when a large title comes out (like they did with TF) to get that userbase up, software is where the money is, take a hit on the hardware to get them in the ecosystem and then MS will earn a profit from software. Sony understood that last gen with PS3, but their losses were greater.

          • vicky

            ms will have to remove kinect. and drop price to £249 before average consumerthinks its worth buying vs the ps4 their kids are going crazy over.

            PS4 RRP is £349, most people know xbone is around 50% weaker in term of power, PS3 won loads of people over eventually with the huge number of quality first party games like the last of us.

            I think at £249, £100 cheaper than PS4 would be the only way to win them over here in uk. the rest of europe is PS4 land there is no hope.

          • 2wisted

            Nahhh that’s far too low, only disparity we’re seeing thus far is resolution, mainly due to devs struggling with eSRAM, I remember early PS3 ports running lower res too, and that fixed itself when devs got used to the SPEs. Although the PS4s GPU advantage wont disappear, it’s not a day and night difference here. I think games and price are the biggest determinant, the PS2 was the weakest of its generation (Xbox and Gamecube were literally twice as strong) and the PS2 dominated. I don’t think power alone (especially when the only disparity is resolution which is expected to reach 1080p eventually for XB1) is gonna determine it.

            Price and games, plus I say they leave Kinect, it’s something that actually makes it different, maybe offer a kinectless SKU for £50 cheaper but I wouldn’t outright remove it.

          • vicky

            Except it doesn’t have a better games library.

            It has titanfall, dead rising 3, forza and ryse. These are not exactly system sellers.

            here is the games released up to May on both platforms. the italics are exclusives, the bolds are multiplats.

            Also, PS4 development techniques will also improve, so the gap will not diminish in terms of graphical quality.

            [img]http://i.imgur.com/gT5kpTb.png[/img]

          • 2wisted

            All I see are a bunch of indie games, that will probably end up on Xbox anyway. Quality means more than quantity, a game like Titanfall means more than all those indie games, to me, because I can actually see myself playing that.

            It’s a matter of preference, but right now MS have put out more quality AAA titles in my opinion, namely Titanfall, Forza and Killer Instinct, with Halo in some shape or form at the end of the year (Halo 2 remake I bet) and Gears, Fable, Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive all expected in the future. On PS4 Im only really liking Uncharted 4, Order looks alright and Driveclub looks a little meh.

          • Drakenkaizer

            Saying that The Order “looks alright” and that Titanfall is a “quality AAA game” in one same post doesnt even measure how much of a xbot you are!

          • 2wisted

            Order has nice graphics, didn’t really see anything that impressed me beyond that, gameplay looked basic.

            Titanfall on the other hand, I thoroughly enjoyed, and it won more awards at E3 than any other game I swear? And it’s one of the highest rated next gen games, how is it not a quality title by those merits? I never said Order was bad, but I haven’t played it and the very little footage I saw looked lacklustre, it very well may end up better!
            Be a little more civil man lol

          • vicky

            The order looks better than anything I’ve seen on xbone.

            Xbone games are not very pretty. even eurogamer are probably going to stop doing “comparisons” because it’s a forgone conclusion.

          • 2wisted

            Wow…Really? I mean at first you were level headed, but saying the whole damn system hasnt got a single looker?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Vu8sVvaWk

            Not telling you to go find something that looks better, but how can you watch that and tell me it’s not an incredible looking game? From a launch title too. Both platforms are gonna have amazing looking games, visually though yeah Order looked good, but as a game I saw nothing that personally interested me, shooting looked clunky and it looked linear, and no MP in a linear 3rd person shooter makes me skeptical, but that’s opinions for you.

            Best looking next gen game I’ve seen is probably The Witcher 3 or The Order on pure graphics alone.

          • vicky

            that doesn’t really impress me, I have just spent a month playing infamous second son. The gameplay in ryse is the clunkiest thing I’ve played in years. Terrible combat animation.

            BTW this video is curiously rendered at 1440p even though the game only goes upto 900p. Whats going on? is it part of the #XB1M13 marketing campaign?

          • 2wisted

            The games rendered at 900p, it wont make a difference but watch at 720p if you want, still looks amazing.
            Second Son looks great but I cant see how that can impress you, yet Ryse doesn’t. They’re in the same ballpark of quality, Ryse has better character models, Infamous has more particle effects, both use a very similar 2XSMAA solution, I’d probs say Infamous is more tech impressive overall because it’s open world, but Ryse looks better on pure graphics mostly due to it being linear. See 0:50 on that video, it looks insane. I think Second Son is the better game tho.

          • Drakenkaizer

            they showed like 40 seconds of actual gameplay and you say it looks “basic”…have you played Tomb Raider…from what they showed it was just basic stuff…when I played it it blew my mind how much action it was on that game, and that was even before I hit the 50% mark

          • 2wisted

            LOL yes! To me, it looked basic. What aspect of the gameplay looked good to you or stood out? Genuine question. I’ve played Gears, Uncharted, Tomb Raider, Dead Space etc, tons of great 3rd person shooters, what does the Order do differently? It’s still early days, but of what they showed, it looked dull. Uncharted 2 amazed me from the E3 demo all the way till it was running on my PS3, I could tell I’d like it because I judged the shooting and action when I first saw it. It looked smooth and different to what was on the market at the time.

            I’ve played tons of games so I can judge a game based on video gameplay fairly accurately with respect to my tastes. Games are becoming more and more samey and predictable, especially shooters, so standing out from the crowd is a big deal in that genre.

            Tomb Raider is more akin to Uncharted, I like that game, The Order didn’t strike me as anything new. Titanfall has actually refined parts of the class based FPS formula and innovated in ways that drew my attention. It’s different in enough ways to offer a new experience and does what it does very well. I think the reason you keep trying to dismiss it as a bad game is because it ain’t on PS4, because if a PS4 game had that kind of success I doubt you’d be singing the same tune. But if you don’t like FPS in general fair game, but calling it outright shit and not in the same league as the Order is misleading.

            Is it really laughable to say that a game that won tons of E3 awards, that came from a respected studio with accolades under their belt (CoD1, CoD2 and CoD4 were fantastic and made by the same team, as was Medal of Honour) is better than a game from a studio who have never produced a top notch game? I’m talking about Ready at Dawn btw, not Sony Santa Monica. Just play what you like man.

          • Drakenkaizer

            The part that actually stood out (from the 30 seconds of gameplay shown) was when the guy is on the ground and you make a decision to either kill him with the knife or use the brick. Yes it “looks” like gears of war but that doesnt mean it will play like gears of war.

            Just because Prototype looked like infamous didnt mean it played like infamous. ANd again that is from 30 seconds (I think it ws less than that).

            But what intrigues me about the game is the story actually. I cant wait to see what ready at Dawn created.

          • maybe

            I think hes talking about how the game looks as a whole. Titanfall is a very fun game to play and you can put a lot of time into the multiplayer. Although it’s really early and I wouldn’t be able to make a decision on the order yet but it looks like a graphical showcase for the ps4. It looks beyond amazing but as far as gameplay goes it seems like it’s going to be a game thats played once in a while or just beaten once and forgotten.

          • vicky

            one cant comment on “gameplay” without playing the game, we know exactly what he meant, no need for an interpreter.

          • Drakenkaizer

            you can put a lot of time into the multiplayer, because you can ONLY put time into the multiplayer…it is a Multiplayer ONLY game!

          • maybe

            No s***…. What I said still stands though. Titanfall has multiplayer and the order doesn’t. Single player only games tend to get far less play time then games that have multiplayer.

          • Drakenkaizer

            Not really. Yes the multiplayer part is an incentive to come back but no multiplayer game trumps a well written single player game.

          • vicky

            “bunch of indies”? Games are games.

            But i’ll humour you.

            In march, xbone had titan fall exclusive, that’s it, just 1 game.

            PS4 had the best graphical version of the multiplat MGS GZ
            It also had big exclusives like Infamous Second son and dynasty warriors 8.

            Then 8 other games that you deem a “bunch of indies”, one of which “towerfall ascension” was rated higher than titanfall.

            PS4 had something for everyone.

            Lets look at April.

            Xbone got kinect sports rivals. That’s it.

            PS4 got Final fantasy 14 reborn, DAYLIGHT, mercenary kings, octodad, and about 8 others,

            Lets look at may, : multiplat : watchdogs and wolfenstein on both ps4 will get graphically superior versions.

            Exclusives.
            No releases from microsoft, NOTHING. ZERO exclusive games from microsoft.

            PS4 has MLB the show, Bound by flame and transistor as exclusives.

            Now u discount these “bunch of indies” because they will be on Xbox soon anyway.

            Titanfall 2 is confirmed to be multiplat and coming to PS4

          • 2wisted

            Errrr that’s totally unfounded. Nothing has been said of TF’s future or platforms, everyone just assumes that it’ll come to PS4 because it’s EA. But nothing has been said either way.

            If I recall, a bunch of indie games that were on Xbox exclusively (Braid, Castle Crashers, Trials etc) ended up on PS3 a year later, Bioshock too along with a bunch of other multiplats. None of the games you listed even remotely interest me, Octodad? Mercenary Kings that’s already on PS3? Outlast, the game that’s on 360/PS3? Backgammon? Chess? I mean cmon man…

          • vicky

            Indies should be multiplatform, but because they are small they work on one platform at a time. And for the risk they take, they deserve every success. I’m happy for people on all systems to experience their beauty, and fun gameplay. Right now though they seem to be preferring to start their development on PS4 first.

            Titanfall 2 being multiplat is completely unfounded? hahaha. It’s been confirmed by zampella himself on twitter. The sequel is coming to PS4. infact EA did the original Microsoft deal behind his back. I don’t see a repeat this time round.

            After failing to sell xbox one systems, I don’t think microsoft will waste their money on it.

          • 2wisted

            If there’s a TF2, I don’t doubt it’ll be on PS4 unless MS renew a contract. I just hadn’t heard any news of it either way, I didn’t even know TF2 had been confirmed. But if it was said on Twitter by Zampella then fair game. That wasn’t really the point I was making anyway u kinda just brought it up.

          • Xtreme Derp

            Better get your marching orders straight, Spencer says indies are a good thing now.

          • 2wisted

            Dont care what the man says, I bought a grand total of about 5 downloadable titles last gen, and played the demos for many (every indie game on XBL has a trial, and so do most arcade games) and they’re just not really my cup of tea. More games means a better library for the platform but it doesn’t make a difference to me or most gamers I’d say, because these games rarely break a million sales. However relative to the costs of production, they turn a good profit and as the barriers to entry in the AAA game industry is rising with costs, I see the market growing in the future for both platforms.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 has the superior version of all console AAA multiplats, The Order, Driveclub, MLB 14: The Show, Deep Down, Uncharted 4, TLOU Remake, more dev support including indies, free to play games and MMOs like FFXIV and Warframe, and unannounced 1st party games (Gran Turismo, God of War, Media Molecule, Quantic Dream, etc.) Titanfall 2 and future 3rd party games will almost certainly be on PS4.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is more powerful, cheaper, AND easier to program for.

            Sony’s 1st party is stronger, you’re confusing 3rd party exclusives (Ryse, Dead Rising, Titanfall, etc.) with 1st party. Sony’s strong 1st party is what helped them recover with PS3 sales.

          • 2wisted

            True, most of my examples were 3rd party. But Forza, Killer Instinct, Halo, Gears, Fable, Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive are 1st party. However I cant comment on the quality of most of those upcoming titles as I’ve seen little to no gameplay, but the 1st party looks strong as opposed to PS4s Uncharted, Order and Driveclub (the big ones right now). Uncharted will probs push me to get a PS4, but I see more games that appeal to me on XB1 at the moment. If you like more of an indie mix, PS4 is def the better one atm, however I see those indies moving to Xbox soon similar to how we saw Braid, Castle Crashers and tons of other downloadable titles on the PS3 later on. No doubt Sony will be consistent with their 1st party support, Microsoft may or may not, we’ll have to see.

            And the biggest reason PS3 recovered imo was the aggressive price cuts, it was cheaper than the 360 since 2009, whereas MS stuck to their price, libraries on both are very similar and filled with system sellers. The last 3 years I’d say PS3 had a more varied library vs Halo, Gears and Fable entries being the only big xbox exclusives since 2011.

          • maybe

            It also doesn’t help that 360 exclusives got worse as last gen went on while ps3 exclusives got better like you mentioned.

            Better games will also help sell consoles. I’d expect to see more sales when some more anticipated titles are released especially since the console will more than likely have a price cut by then.

    • Xtreme Derp

      PS4 rate will slow down it won’t hit 15 million by end of 2014.

      • DougLord

        Yes it will. Q4 2014 will be FAR larger than Q4 2013 for both companies.

        • Xtreme Derp

          How can you be so CONSTANTLY WRONG AND STUPID?

      • vicky

        At which rate? What is your calculation?

        this Q1 jan – march sony sold around 3 million units to customers, Thats a rate of roughly 970k to 1m per month.

        Microsoft managed 1.2m Shipped to retailers in the same 3month period. thats only 400k per month.

        PS4 is selling more than double worldwide.

        Now remember jan – march is usually the slowest period for hardware sales. so these are the most conservative estimates.

  • static5125

    So basically, XBone shipments fell off a cliff. 3.9 million down to 1.2 million is horrible. In contrast, Xbox 360 sold 1.8 and 1.7 million in Q2 and Q3 2006, respectively. Here’s another catch. The 360 sold 1.7 m in Q3 2006 while being severely supply constrained. In contrast, the XBone sold 1.2 m in Q3 2014 with truckloads of them still sitting in shelves in retailers. Yeah, the XBone might have beaten the 360′s launch numbers, but at this rate, it’ll actually do worse than its predecessor.

    • SuperJamaican

      1.2 million consoles sold in retailers(console not specified) 800,000 of consoles were Xbox 360($pecified). Read buddy….lol.

      • superkarma

        You’ve got that confused. 2 million consoles were sold to retailers, 1.2 million of them were X1′s.

        • SuperJamaican

          My bad I’m a douchebag today with selective vision.

      • static5125

        2 million Xbox consoles, 1.2 million of them are X1′s meaning that 360 shipped 800k.

    • Xtreme Derp

      ms fanboys are too stupid to understand terms like “supply constraints”, they just eat up the PR numbers and start dancing like idiots, then cry like children when people with a clue start talking.

      Not coincidentally it’s why they’re constantly wrong.

  • BigDickKaman

    OOH MAN XBOX ONE IS SOOO COOOL CANT WAIT TO GET ONE

    • Delsin Rowe

      man, chill out. my neighbors undrestand by now you wanna buy an xbox one.

    • such.wow

      Buy one then. There’s over a million of them laying around.

      • Raven Nafariea

        They are trying to get them off store shelves so badly they will probably pay him to take one.

  • BigDickKaman

    this single image will make poly station fans shit themselves

    • superkarma

      Considering PS4 has nearly double the sales of the X1, I don’t understand why “poly station” fans would shit themselves.

    • Sucka Free

      what does that even mean, PigDick?

  • D-Kon

    Suddenly everyone becomes a business/economics expert with insider info from stockholders…smh lol

    • Xtreme Derp

      Suddenly a bunch of clueless ms fanboys start celebrating a PR report with words they don’t understand like “gross margins” and “revenue”.

  • such.wow

    They sold 1.2m consoles to retailers this year? No wonder they only announced 5 million sold-in… Would love to know the actual sold-through numbers.

    • Xtreme Derp

      About 4.2 million

  • Jimmy DoneGood

    Just a simple boring statistic but what MS made in net profit for the last 3 months almost equals the market value for all of Sony corporation. That’s just incredibly weird.

    • superkarma

      That’s also incredibly predictable, considering Windows/Office makes up about 75% of Microsoft’s overall profit. We all know Microsoft makes billions every quarter. This is nothing new.

      It’s just amusing how that means absolutely nothing when it comes to selling X1 consoles. Meanwhile, Sony (a company that didn’t post a profit for nearly 5 years straight) comes out with the more powerful console, nearly double the sales and no indiction of slowing down.

      • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

        Oh, don’t tell Sony fanboys about their lovely company hemorraging money. It’s going to hurt their core.

        • vicky

          #XB1M13 for life!

        • Sucka Free

          Hmm, looks like you fooled me. Savor the flavor, it wont happen again

        • Xtreme Derp

          Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.,

          • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

            You don’t sense sarcasm and satire in my comment? I don’t even have a horse in this race. Oh well, you better grow a funny bone, because you don’t have a sense of humor.

            Thank you.

      • Vious

        The company has a diversified portfolio.
        They have multile billion products there going for them.
        The company is doing good.
        -
        hopefully Sony can turn a profit this coming quarter. I’d hate to see them go bankrupt, they’ve been selling off properties for a while now.

        • superkarma

          Did I say the company wasn’t doing good? Nope, but that’s just you doing your usual passive-aggressive approach. Go ahead, tell me how you’re not a fanboy again…lol.

          Hopefully Microsoft can sell some more consoles this coming quarter. I’d hate to have their Xbox division become a blunder like it did last-gen, forcing investors to push for the sale of the division.

          Don’t worry, I won’t be replying to you after this. You’ll just do the same shtick as before and attempt to portray yourself as unbiased and not a fanboy, meanwhile we all know you are. Have at it, boss.

          • Vious

            you said you’ve looked through my comment history before right?
            therefore you should’ve seen that I’ve said before that I’m a Microsoft fan. it’s as simple as that and I have no problem saying so.
            - once again, my comment history is open, I have nothing to hide.
            - I think I can be as passive-aggressive as I want to be. the truth is the truth though deal with it.

          • superkarma

            Oh, I know you’re a Microsoft fanboy. There’s no doubt about that. As I said, you make it blatantly obvious in your replies. Keep it up — your failed attempts at trying to come off as unbiased are funny to read :)

          • Vious

            there’s a difference between a fan and a fanboy. know the difference.
            i’m not trying to “come off as unbiased” or however you want to put it. I write what I think, nothing more, nothing less.
            - it’s burning you up inside isn’t it. lmaoo

          • superkarma

            Yes, and I know that difference. It’s a shame you obviously don’t. Burning me up? Lol, hardly. I’m sitting here playing Trials while listening to music…all the while having a good laugh at you attempting to say you’re not a fanboy.

          • Vious

            whatever floats your boat pal. think whatever you want, it still won’t change anything.

          • superkarma

            Exactly — It won’t change the fact that you’ve proven to be a Microsoft fanboy. I’m glad we’ve come to this realization.

          • Vious

            ok pal. i’m sure you feel better now.
            did it change xbox sales?
            did it change Microsoft or sony’s profits?
            did it put money in your pockets?

          • superkarma

            I’m sure you feel better as well boasting about Microsoft’s profits. Did doing so put any money in your pockets?

          • Xtreme Derp

            You’re definitely a dumb fanboy that can’t get the most basic facts straight and has fevered WRONG delusions of Sony going bankrupt.

          • Vious

            does that make you feel better? want a cookie now?

        • Xtreme Derp

          Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

          • Vious

            anyway, just letting you know. i’ll be ignoring you in this thread too going forward along with @superkarma:disqus
            have fun.

      • Xtreme Derp

        Yes MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games. Their consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

    • vicky

      ALL that money and they only pay you 5 cents a post…

    • You are flat out wrong

      All that money and barely any of it will go to the Sh*tbox. Bots must always be antsy about that.

  • Vious

    I don’t know how they do it, but making a 50% profit to revenue margin is almost unheard of when it comes to huge corporations…
    Look at Apple, they just made almost $50 billion for the quarter…..but only a $10 billion profit… That’s a 20% profit to revenue margin.
    -
    seeing that Microsoft will buy a part of Nokia and will take on about 30k workers on their currently 100k work force….I wonder how that’s going to be looking in their next quarterly report.

    • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

      It will take time for MS to actually get their bearings going for Nokia. Also I wouldn’t be surprised that MS have a 50% profit. They’re kings anyways in the OS market.

    • Xtreme Derp

      It’s called Office, Server, and Windows licenses and has nothing to do with playing video games. Their consumer products like Surface, bing, and xbox are all money losers.

      Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox to end up losing money.

      • Vious

        and what does that have to do with my comment?

      • DougLord

        Nope. Consumer Device Hardware MADE $258mm of profit last Q and $875mm in the last 9 months. Consumer other (non-license) made $875mm last Q and $1.324BBN in the last 9 months. So MSFT’s consumer non windows, non-office divisions made a profit of $1.1bbn in a QUARTER, while Sony will loose $1bbn this year.

        • Xtreme Derp

          PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

          MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

          Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

          PS4 sold 20.5 million software units as of April 1 2014, that’s a 2.92 attach rate.

          Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

          Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

          Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

          The gaming division and first party studios are well funded and making a profit. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

          Sony is still worth 18.5 billion. They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

          Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
          Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
          Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

          Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
          #87 in Sales
          #171 in Assets
          #547 in Market value
          78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

          http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/132049-Sony-Q3-2013-Financials-PC-Division-Will-Be-Sold-PS4-Pushes-Income-Up

          http://www.forbes.com/companies/sony

          .

  • MTM2

    So 1.2 million consoles shipped in 3 months?

    Assuming the trend continues, 4.8 million consoles shipped in a year is pretty crappy.

    • Spencer

      But that isn’t a very good metric seeing as how there aren’t any high profile games released yet and it hasn’t even had a solid holiday season yet. I’m guessing each next gen system will sell much higher than that. It’s outpacing the 360′s sales by a wide margin and future content and price drops will influence sales volume

      • Xtreme Derp

        Look at sales since 2014 began. Frontloaded launch numbers mean little long term.

        • Spencer

          So PS4 sold 4 million units and Xbox One sold give or take 2 million? That’s pretty damn good. In the case of Xbox One, that’s right in line with how the 360 did in the new year after it’s launch, and that’s despite selling double what the 360 did in it’s first two launch months. In the case of PS4, it doubled both the launch month numbers AND doubled the numbers that PS3 had in the first quarter after it released.

          You are simply wrong. There’s no other way to slice it.

  • Vious

    There’s so many salty people in here.
    gaming wise the company is selling consoles and games.
    Software wise the company is also selling and creating new billion dollar priduxts
    they even turned Skype into a billion dollar product…..I don’t even know how they did that
    when before Skype couldn’t pass $500 million.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Gamers really care how many Office and Windows licenses MS sells. Microsoft fanboy.

      • Vious

        dude you’re one salty sony fantard.
        anyway, gamers are real people and people care about many different things. and at least I can appreciate other things that’s not gaming related.

  • Jamal

    Good for MS

  • dranzer1

    Soo.. Many Sony fanboys butthurt that Xbox did good.

    • superkarma

      So many Xbox fanboys struggling to find excuses for the laughable X1 sales.

      • D-Kon

        Sales do what for you?? Are you getting residuals??

      • Aaron ray

        XBOX One sales struggling? Laughable? Look at the numbers again before you make such a silly comment. The XBOX One has only .84 million less consoles shipped to stores than the Wii in the same time period, consoles had never seen numbers like that before. To make your comment valid people would have to believe that the PS4 is only getting by or just doing ok and that the Wii had poor sales. The fact is the XBOX One is selling great and the PS4 is selling like hot cakes.

        • superkarma

          Why are you comparing a next gen console to a console that came out 8 years ago? Lol. That right there proves how laughable your argument is. Try comparing it to the Wii U (which is still outselling the X1 worldwide) or the PS4. That would be a more logical comparison.

          • Aaron ray

            You must be some fanboy to come up with logic like that.

          • superkarma

            Says the fanboy who dodged my question. Not only that, but you avoided the fact that this report proves there are roughly 1 million X1′s sitting on retailer shelves. Again, laughable.

          • Aaron ray

            Me a fanboy? I wasn’t the one who made a silly comment. Sorry to disappoint you but I have no need or desire to be a fanboy, own every Nintendo,Sony and Microsoft console excluding a few hand helds.

          • superkarma

            You may consider my comment silly, but it’s proven facts. I’m sorry the proven facts bother you, but that’s on you to tell with. Enjoy.

          • Aaron ray

            Those are not facts, those are opinions. There is a difference.

          • superkarma

            You’re half right. I said the X1 sales are struggling…which is a fact. In 4 months, the X1 has only sold about 1 million units. Meanwhile, the PS4 has been essentially selling 1 million every month. In that same time-frame, retailers have dropped the price for the X1 over a dozen times. That is the very definition of struggling. The laughable part is an opinion, so I’ll give you that one.

          • Aaron ray

            The facts are that both the PS4 and the XB1 are selling well, that is determined by previous consoles and their sales records. To say that the XB1 is selling poorly is an opinion as the facts say otherwise.

          • superkarma

            I didn’t say the X1 is selling poorly. I said the sales are struggling for it, which is true…and has now been proven. Sure, both are selling well…but when compared, the PS4 is doing exceptionally well, while the X1 is struggling to even outsell the Wii U.

            You can continue to go around in this circle and debate this, but that won’t change the facts.

          • Aaron ray

            You keep on throwing out the WiiU, you do know it has a year lead on the PS4 and XB1?

          • superkarma

            And you do know the PS4 surpassed it’s worldwide sales by nearly 2 million…meanwhile the X1 still hasn’t even come close?

          • superkarma

            Time to go watch some shows, later fanboy.

          • Aaron ray
        • Xtreme Derp

          Yeah no. Xbox sales fell off a cliff since 2014. That initial fanboy frenzy at launch was a one time thing.

          PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

          MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves.

          Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

          Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

          • Aaron ray

            In what world do you live in to believe the crap that you are typing? The only thing that is true in your last statement is that MS is losing on their Surface tablets, every thing else is dribble or conjecture. Where you fanboys come up with this stuff is beyond me.

    • Vious

      I think they don’t know how to handle the news….so all they’re left with is “it’s shipped, not sold”

      • superkarma

        You mean, the actual fact that it’s not sold to consumers, but rather sitting on store shelves? Yeah, that is all we’re left with…considering that’s the truth.

        • Vious

          not sold to consumes? why are you so butthurt about that? doesn’t matter to you if it’s sold to consumers are not?
          let it be man.
          you claim it’s it doesn’t bother you, but by your comments on the matter it’s obvious it’s the other way around.

          • superkarma

            Why would I be butthurt over the fact that PS4 is doing nearly double the sales of the X1? Your claim is that sold to consumers means nothing, but apparently overall company revenue does? Very interesting how you pick and choose which stats matter and which don’t. But go ahead, tell me how you’re not a fanboy some more.

          • Vious

            you can miss interpret my comment all you want, it doesn’t change anything.
            - I asked you what does it matter to you if the consoles are sold through to consumers or not? I asked that since you’re a sony fanboy. what does it matter to a sony fanboy?

          • superkarma

            You’re clearly a Microsoft fanboy, so what does it matter to a Microsoft fanboy how much money Sony makes?

            Sooner or later you’ll realize you’re no better than any other fanboy. Sooner or later you’ll realize picking and choosing which stats to stand behind is not a valid argument.

          • Vious

            as I’ve said before I don’t want sony to go bankrupt, but NOOOO, you take that as me being passive aggressive.
            then you want to come with this? dude I can’t do this anymore with you.
            have fun.

          • superkarma

            You were/are being passive aggressive. That’s just not me taking it that way, that’s you being that way. I’m sorry you’re now forced to backpedal, but oh well. Enjoy it, fanboy.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.,

          • Vious

            for a guy who doesn’t like xbox, you sure talk about it a lot.
            anyway, you want a cookie now?

      • Sucka Free

        You mean the news that MS is still trailing by over 2 million consoles, shipped or sold, your pick? I think we can handle that

        • Vious

          doesn’t matter how much they’re trailing by at this early stage in the game. the company made a lot of money last quarter and that speaks volumes, lets see how well their competition stack up at their end of quarter report

          • Sucka Free

            I don’t care how much money they make. PS4 is in the lead and they will stay there this gen. Everyone knows it, including MS. the PS4 is simply a better console. fact

          • Vious

            if saying that makes you feel better, doesn’t matter to me if the ps4 stays in the lead or not. it’s not like I won’t be getting games on my x1.
            it’s all good. ps4 can stay in the lead i’m sure that will make you feel a lot better.

          • Sucka Free

            Aww, are you going to pout about it now? After all that gloating you were just doing now you going to act like it doesn’t matter to you?
            Does it make me feel better that PS4 is in the lead? Yeah it does, seeing as how I own one, why wouldn’t it?

          • Vious

            gloating? I was saying the company did great for the quarter, how is that gloating?
            -
            lol, great that you feel that way. have fun

          • Sucka Free

            More passive aggressive nonsense, save it for the chumps

          • Vious

            more “passive aggressive nonsense”?I guess the internet doesn’t have a sarcasm detector.
            and “save it for the chumps”? then stop acting like one.

          • Sucka Free

            “then stop acting like one.”
            That sounds a lot like, “Stop calling me on my bullsh*t”

          • Vious

            lol, how did the hell you get your comments bolded?
            sorcery trickery are you using?

          • Sucka Free
          • Vious

            oh, I didn’t know you could use html tags in the comments. this opened up a whole new world

          • Sucka Free

            Yeah, its a game changer for sure.

          • Sucka Free

            there are more than just those too like bold

            or Click here for more HTML tricks and tips

            which is Click here for more HTML tricks and tips

          • VersaType

            You realize that the xbox one is only in 13 countries right? And they’ve sold at least 4.3 million consoles that have been bought by people and not just retailers. PS4 however is in 48 countries. The fact that the xbox one has sold that well even when bundled with the kinect and being a $100 more, and is in a fraction of the countries the ps4 is in is substantial.

            Just because a console sells better doesn’t mean it is better. And people have different preferences. The true gamers though don’t really give a shit about stupid fanboy competitions between platforms. They play the games regardless of platform. They don’t refuse to play on any platform (unless they can’t afford it which is understandable). The fact is though neither the xbox one or the ps4 is a must have system.

          • Sucka Free

            In this case, the PS4 sells better because it is the better system. Benchmarks prove this and go ahead and ramble about those 13 countries, the reason they aren’t expanding is because they have no traction in those other countries, they never have. The Xbox survives on the US market alone, always has. It has a bit of a showing in EU as well but Sony has always had the upper hand in those markets. Now that Sony is outselling MS in the US as well, the gap is even greater.
            You go ahead and try to tell me that I’m not a “true gamer” by your narrow definition, I don’t care. I’ve been gaming since there were games to play.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

        • sony is nearly dead

          How about the news that year after year sony is bleeding out financially? Do you mean that news?

          Where as Microsoft is still a power house in comparison to that dying relic called sony.

          • Xtreme Derp

            You are a mentally ill, delusional, rotten, malicious, and WRONG microsoft fanboy. Disgusting horrifying and evil.

            PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

            Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

            Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games.

            Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

      • Xtreme Derp

        I think you’re too stupid to even comprehend the financial report, let alone judge what it means.

        • Vious

          want a cookie?
          you butthurt?

        • sony is nearly dead

          Man you truly live in Sonyfanboy Fantasyland don’t you.

          sony are financially ruined atm.

          Microsoft DOMINATE sony financially

          • Xtreme Derp

            You are a mentally ill, delusional, rotten, malicious, and WRONG microsoft fanboy. Disgusting horrifying and evil.

            PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

            Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

            Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            MS makes money on Office, Server, and Windows licenses which nothing to do with playing video games.

            Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.,

          • DougLord

            Fun with numbers starring everyone’s favorite Sony Pony troll.
            Question 1: What is 7.1/4.3. Sorry Sony Pony Its not 2 no matter how bad you want it to be!!!
            Question 2: What is $88.6, $78.9 and $72.2. Answer Sony Revenues for 2011, 2012 and 2013. Hmm that seems to be going the wrong direction!
            Question 3: What has declined 23% in the last 2 years? Answer Sony’s gross profit!
            Question 4: What is NEGATIVE $8.2 billion? Answer Sony’s cumulative net income for 2011, 2012 and 2013.
            Question 5: What is Negative $1 billion. Answer Sony’s expected profit for 2014.
            Question 6: What is -87%? Answer the return Sony’s stock has generated since 2000.
            Question 7: What is $81 billion? Answer: Sony’s total debt and unfunded pension liabilities.
            Question 8: What is 79%? Answer: The odds of Sony going bankrupt by the end of 2015.
            Question 9: What is 7.8mm vs 6.7mm. Answer: US software sales for XBone vs PS4.
            Question 10: What is 16,400 and 181%. The number of consoles the XBone sold in the last 2 weeks MORE than PS4 in the US and the increase in that gap week over week.
            Question 11: What is gay, has a 2 inch penis and masturbates to furry porn. Answer. Everyone’s favorite little Sony Pony ExtremeDerp.

          • superkarma

            Hey, I’m still waiting for that link I requested earlier from you. You wouldn’t be dodging me now, would you?

          • DougLord
          • superkarma

            I said credible..VGchartz is not credible…lol. Also, you do realize that’s weekly stats, right? Where are the 6.7million and 7.8 million figures you mentioned?

          • DougLord

            Look on the far right. It has total consoles sold lifetime and total software sales. 3.0mm vs 2.7mm for consoles – advantage Sony. 7.8mm vs 6.7mm software advantage MSFT. So for all the Sony Pony talk of having more and better games – Xbox fans seem to be buying and playing far more.

          • superkarma

            Again, VGchartz is not credible nor reliable. Neither Sony nor Microsoft have released any figures to back up those claims, so those numbers are meaningless. Not only that, but they’re only for 1 single country.

            But hey, if that proven unreliable site makes you sleep better at night, so be it. Whatever it takes for you to continue living in your fantasy. Back in reality, we know the truth. We also realize “better games” is subjective.

          • DougLord

            Ah the your data isn’t reliable and mine is card. All of you Sony Ponies are using VA Chartz data when it’s in your favor. But XBone outsells PS4 by 5k last week and 11k this week in 1 country and It’s a huge conspiracy. Just like the FACT that 55% of 360s were sold in countries where the Xbone hasn’t launched, but tier 2 countries won’t do anything to improve sales. You are a joke. Use data or just admit you are guessing.

          • superkarma

            *yawn*

            It’s not a card, it’s a fact. I’m sorry all you have to go by is an unreliable site that doesn’t cite their sources or attempt to back up their numbers…at all…and doesn’t even track digital sales.

            Anyways, I’m done humoring the fanboy troll. Time to go back and enjoy the fact that the PS4 is dominating worldwide (not just in 1 country) and the X1 is roughly 4 million behind in sales. Later, fanboy.

            Protip: The term “sony ponies” only further proves how pathetic you are. Just an FYI.

          • Xtreme Derp

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            PS4 sold 20.5 million software units as of April 1 2014, that’s a 2.92 attach rate.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

            Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

            The gaming division and first party studios are well funded and making a profit. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

            Sony is still worth 18.5 billion. They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

            Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
            Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
            Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

            Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
            #87 in Sales
            #171 in Assets
            #547 in Market value
            78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

            http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/132049-Sony-Q3-2013-Financials-PC-Division-Will-Be-Sold-PS4-Pushes-Income-Up

            http://www.forbes.com/companies/sony.,,

          • You are flat out wrong

            lol VGChartz. Xbots getting slaughtered.

          • Xtreme Derp

            WRONG AND EVIL

            PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

            MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

            Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

            PS4 sold 20.5 million software units as of April 1 2014, that’s a 2.92 attach rate.

            Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

            Xbox One will be a net LOSS, not profit. Only question is how much they’re going to lose.

            Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. You should be worried if Sony WASN’T cutting those losing divisions, but they’re making the right business decisions. They won’t ever be an empire again but they aren’t going under.

            The gaming division and first party studios are well funded and making a profit. During the quarter ending 31st December 2013 the Game business made a profit of $172m off the back of an impressive 64.6 per cent rise in sales year on year. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

            Sony is still worth 18.5 billion. They just aren’t bringing in enough revenue or profits to bring that number up, and for a time, and probably for a few quarters here or there for the next few years, they might lose money. They also obviously have working capital, because they have games in development right now, and are able to market their newest system and do what they have to do to sell their products. If Sony were on the brink of bankruptcy, we wouldn’t be seeing AAA game announcements with budgets ranging from $50-100 million dollars. If they were on the brink of bankruptcy, they wouldn’t be buying Gaikai, or investing in new tech such as Morpheus or the PS4. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt.

            Sony’s market cap is 18.65 billion as of today (2014).
            Market cap in 2013 was 17.6 billion it has gone up since then.
            Sony is ranked #80 in world as the most valuable brand 2013.

            Sony is ranked #506 in the global 2000
            #87 in Sales
            #171 in Assets
            #547 in Market value
            78.52 billion dollars in sales in 2013

            http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/132049-Sony-Q3-2013-Financials-PC-Division-Will-Be-Sold-PS4-Pushes-Income-Up

            http://www.forbes.com/companies/sony

          • Sucka Free

            What a pleasant personality you have there. I’m not being sarcastic…really :

    • You are flat out wrong

      Not bad but not good either.

    • Xtreme Derp

      Xbox did good? Do you even know what revenue, profit, or gross margins are? Do you realize xbox has lost MS total billions of dollars overall? No, you’re just a dumb, clueless fanboy, of course.

      • sony is nearly dead

        People in glasshouses shouldn’t throw stones derpy buddy.

        sony are so dead at the moment, financially they are on life-support mate. Year after Year after Year sony have cut and sold and sacked their assets.

        Financially Microsoft OWNS sony on EVERY single level. sony are OWNED by Microsoft on a yearly basis.

        Sonyfanboy Cognitive-Disonance on full display again.

        • Xtreme Derp

          You are a mentally ill, delusional, rotten, malicious, and WRONG microsoft fanboy. Disgusting horrifying and evil.

          PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

          Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

          Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

          PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

          MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

          Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

          Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

          Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

  • Vious

    I guess downvotes are back. lmaooo, it’s funny to see all the downvotes I received
    lmaoo, these guys are so butthurt

    • superkarma

      Says the guy that’s commenting about being downvoted. Seems to me you’re the only one who is butthurt.

      lmaoo.

      • Vious

        it’s all good,
        here streaming an black bullet from naime4fun through my dell xps 9530 to the big screen through my xbox one. it’s all good no butthurting by me.

        • superkarma

          Neat — while you’re watching shows on your X1, I’ll be playing games on my PS4. Enjoy :)

          • Vious

            sure, no problem.
            I just came in from work not too long. got some food and decided to watch some animes while I ate food and comment online.
            after this I might go play some games (not sure yet).
            -
            the fact is, I can watch shows AND play games, I can even do them both at the SAME time. you can go praise your single purpose device. lmaooo

          • superkarma

            So much for not being a fanboy, aye? It didn’t take much for you to show your true colors…lol.

            Anyways, enjoy watching shows and playing games at the same time. I’d rather just play games, but that’s just me.

          • Vious

            my colors are always showing.

          • superkarma

            Very true.

          • Vious

            sure enough. I have nothing to hide, do you?

          • superkarma

            Nope, but then again, I don’t pretend I’m something I’m not.

          • Vious

            accuse me of being a fanboy in disguise
            me: i’m a fan, you can check my comment history it’s clear as day, I have nothing to hide
            - I asked you: do you have anything to hide?
            - your answer: nope
            - reality: check the picture, it sure as hell say otherwise
            -
            done with you. away with this one.

          • superkarma

            In disguise? Nope, not at all…you’ve already proven to not hide how much of a fanboy you are.

            Also, I chose to hide my comment history as this is my main disqus account. You can take that to mean I have something to hide all you want if it makes you feel like you’ve won that argument. Reality is, I speak in proven facts and truths. I’m sorry that bothers you, but that’s on you, champ.

            You’ve said countless times how you’re done with me…but you keep replying. Go away already, fanboy.

          • Vious

            done with you, clearly you have everything to hide.
            you can call me a fanboy as much as you like, it doesn’t change anything.
            you can stop replying to me now as you’ll be ignored.

          • superkarma

            Ok, delusional fanboy. See you on the next Sony article. I can’t wait to read your next passive-aggressive post.

          • Sucka Free

            Praise a single purpose device that does its job better than that multi purpose one. It must be nice to have it function in ways other than game related since it has so few games.
            I’m glad that PS4 doesn’t run cable since I don’t watch TV at all

          • Vious

            oh, ok, if you don’t watch TV and all, then that’s cool. but I usually download movies or watch stream from online to the console through my computer….
            it turns out the only time I watch TV is when my girl comes over and spend the night.

          • DougLord

            Sony Ponies don’t have girls. They have Furry Porn.

          • DougLord

            Sony has only managed to sell 6.7mm pieces of software for 3.0mm consoles in the US. MSFT has sold 7.8mm pieces of software for just 2.7mm consoles. So it seems most MSFT owners have a lot more games to play than Sony Ponies.

          • superkarma

            Link your (credible) sources or be gone with your blanket fanboy claims.

          • DougLord

            Assuming you are talking to me http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41742/USA/

          • superkarma

            I said credible…VGchartz is not credible…lol. Also, you do realize that’s weekly stats, right? Where is the 6.7million and 7.8 million figures you mentioned?

          • superkarma

            Pssssst….still waiting for that link, fanboy.

    • Sucka Free

      nope, just Disqus glitching.

      • Vious

        probably so. but i’m seeing the DVs, not sure if you can

        • Sucka Free

          I saw* one earlier but I was logged out at that time, when I logged back in, it disappeared

          • Vious

            oh, i’m logged in, still seeing them
            edit: you are right, refreshed the page…they’re all gone

          • Sucka Free

            just downvoted you, see?

          • Vious

            yeah I saw

          • Sucka Free

            I don’t up or downvote anything, I think that system is broken, I was just doing it to show you that it was glitching. It keeps logging me out and it takes a long time to refresh the post. Disqus is glitching, don’t worry about it

    • Gannicus

      I don’t even know what down votes or up votes are supposed to do tbh

    • Xtreme Derp

      Or maybe you’re just an obnoxious, hypocritical misterxmedia fanboy that’s constantly wrong.

      • Vious

        want a cookie?

  • chuckyj

    All these people blasting MS…When is the last time Sony turned a profit? They’ve been bleeding like a stuck pig for some time now and to this day haven’t turned everything around… You can bash MS all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that even the Xbox team (home and Device) has turned a rather large profit. Maybe some people are jealous, which is rather pathetic when people argue like children over which is a better company… How much money do fans of these companies make? Unless you actually own stock $0 dollars…

    • Xtreme Derp

      Uhh no. Xbox has lost MS billions of dollars total.

      You’re a wrong and hypocritical microsoft fanboy.

      • chuckyj

        Nope not a fan boy… I don’t like either companies policies very much. But, interested to see your link proving Xbox has “LOST” MS BILLIONS… Not really hypocritical either… This Quarter Xbox’s team pulled in almost 2 billion dollars of revenue (Devices and Consumer Hardware)… Sony FAGBOYS need to get a life MS Fagboys do too… Both companies don’t give a F**ck about you it’s your money they want… I have realized their is a life outside videogames quite some time ago…. and my Videogaming time has been cut way down… You should try it sometime… Don’t worry about how much some Company is making that don’t give a F**ck about you and try going outside or getting a girlfriend…

      • sony is nearly dead

        sony is bleeding out Derpy Boy. year after year after year after year sony is dipping more and more into the red and needing to sell off assets, close divsions and sack 100′s of employees.

        Your bosses are soon going to loose their job mate

        sony is slowly dying Derpy…. it isn’t long mate… and playstation is getting sold off.

        Microsoft… make sure you snap up Naughty Dog when they get sold… should be nice to get Last of Us2 on Xbox WON.

        • Xtreme Derp

          You are a mentally ill, delusional, rotten, malicious, and WRONG microsoft fanboy. Disgusting horrifying and evil.

          PS4 will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional microsoft fanboys disagree.

          Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and dreams.

          Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime soon.

          PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7 million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very supply constrained in some non-US countries.

          MS shipped 5 million to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial, and damage control and buying PS4s.

          Xbox will hardly sell anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4. The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global sales.

          Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

          Xbox is not “doing well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are increasingly unhappy about it.

        • DougLord

          No one will buy the PS brand. The loose $$ on every console sold. They think that selling the most boxes for the least $$ is a winning strategy.

        • neko working

          who’s dreaming now ? LOL
          err.. do xbot can even dream ? LOL

      • DougLord

        Uhmm no. X360 turned a profit DESPITE the RROD costs. XBONE is making $$ from DAY 1.

  • Gannicus

    215 comments from an article stating “1.2 Million Xbox One Consoles Shipped; Xbox Revenue up 45%” what is that revenue? does it state it? no. we all know shipped isn’t sold to customers so why is there 215 comments all you lot used to say I was trolling, but fack me its ridiculous the last x1 vs ps4 thing I saw think it someat with games line up or someat 400+ comments 95% not worth reading and again im apparently a troll and I didn’t post anything… tbh you should all take a look in the mirror if theres a bridge behind ya your prolly a troll just cus your a pro sony site don’t mean jack,

    oh btw giantbomb review of watchdogs saw the PC + PS4 version in action, he said ps4 version is fine he’d be happy with it but states PC is clearly where its at cus everything is much sharper and better detailed

    PS4 version is fine and hed play it just PC version is better, which tbh it should be cus we do have better hardware… no trolling simple fact.. well that is if the PC playing it HAS the hardware to run obviously hahah an NVidia 460 not so good haha NVidia 770 max :d

    • VersaType

      The xbox one since launch has sold at least 4.3 million consoles to consumers. That leaves around .7 million in stores as of now.

      • ImonadrugcalledCharlieSheen

        You wish anyway.

  • Vious
  • Jessenia Lopez

    rest in piece xbone

  • You are flat out wrong

    Nice to see licenses covering up the Xbone underperforming.

  • Vious
    • You are flat out wrong

      RIP Nokia. ;_;7

  • ImonadrugcalledCharlieSheen

    You can post all the numbers and graph charts you want, still doesn’t change the fact xbone failed this gen.

    • Vious

      13 countries, 5 months out of 8 years. ..and according to you it failed?

      • sony is nearly dead

        Please don’t even attempt to reason with him, just step back from him slowly, real slowly.

        There’s absolutely no way to bring him back to reality. We’ve lost him… he delved too deeply into Sonyfanboy Fantasyland, there’s just no reasoning with him now.

        • Vious

          Lmaooo I’ll do that hopefully real quietly before he notices

        • Xtreme Derp

          You are a mentally ill, delusional, rotten, malicious, and WRONG microsoft fanboy. Disgusting horrifying and evil.

          PS4
          will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and
          software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more
          dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net
          profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional
          microsoft fanboys disagree.

          Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and
          delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and
          reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and
          dreams.

          Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by
          PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor
          fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime
          soon.

          PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7
          million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing
          wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very
          supply constrained in some non-US countries.

          MS shipped 5 million
          to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store
          shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial,
          and damage control and buying PS4s.

          Xbox will hardly sell
          anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4.
          The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global
          sales.

          Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re
          given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t
          going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

          Xbox is not “doing
          well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set
          to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface
          tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are
          increasingly unhappy about it.,,

      • You are flat out wrong

        If you think “tier 2″ is going to save the Xbone you need to temper your expectations.

        • DougLord

          You need to get your facts straight, The US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand and other countries XBone has launched in so far accounted for only 45% of X360 sales.

          • You are flat out wrong

            Tier 2 European and Asian countries are already importing Xbones and the other markets are too immature to make a major difference.

            There’ll be a bump of around 200,000, probably enough to cover the sales gap in the UK. That’s it.

    • sony is nearly dead

      Sonyfanboy Cognitive-Disonance wins the day again.

      You guys live in a true fantasyland.

      Whereas if you look at the financial situation of sony… hmmmm… now there’s a completely different story. you’ll be lucky if sony doesn’t dissolve another division or two of it’s company. Maybe the TV division will be sold off or liquidated next? Maybe the playstation division after that?

      sony is bleeding out mate… it’s only matter of time before they breathe their last breath.

      • Jecht_Sin

        Whatever. Still the Xbone failed this generation.

        • Raven Nafariea

          They are scared and frightened and jealous so the only thing they can do is throw around conspiracy theories and try to spread as much as doom and gloom as they can in order to try to drag us down to their level. It is very sad really but also amusing as well. I love seeing them post all day long their tripe. They are really freaking out. =D

      • You are flat out wrong

        And PlayStation gets sold off to another company because it’s a global brand with value.

        I’m not sure if anyone outside Redmond gives a f*ck about Xbox.

        • Guest

          Not for anybody else with a brain. Nobody in the world will touch $0N¥ PauperStation when the rest of the company dies. Hahaha, it would probably be MS themselves to bury you paupers once and for all.

          • You are flat out wrong

            Go away, Guy Brohski.

      • Xtreme Derp

        You are a mentally ill, delusional, rotten, malicious, and WRONG microsoft fanboy. Disgusting horrifying and evil.

        PS4
        will have the graphics advantage the entire gen. PS4 hardware and
        software will outsell Xbox globally the entire gen. PS4 will have more
        dev support and more 1st party games the entire gen. PS4 will make a net
        profit, and Sony won’t go bankrupt. Only dumb, demented, delusional
        microsoft fanboys disagree.

        Why are microsoft fanboys so dumb and
        delusional and hate it when knowledgeable people state tech facts and
        reality? You sound upset that reality doesn’t match your delusions and
        dreams.

        Your favorite piece of plastic is getting dominated by
        PS4 in sales, games performance, and dev support, causing you to harbor
        fevered delusions about Sony going bankrupt. Sorry, won’t happen anytime
        soon.

        PS4 is currently outselling Xbox almost 2:1 globally, 7
        million to ~4.2 million as of April 6 2014. The sales gap is growing
        wider despite price drops and free Titanfall bundles. PS4 is still very
        supply constrained in some non-US countries.

        MS shipped 5 million
        to stores, sold ~4.2 mil to consumers, with ~800k rotting on store
        shelves. Most console gamers are ignoring MS fanboy apologizing, denial,
        and damage control and buying PS4s.

        Xbox will hardly sell
        anything in smaller “tier 2″ markets already dominated by PS3 and PS4.
        The global gap is growing wider, Xbox will never surpass PS4 in global
        sales.

        Xbox does not have access to all of MS’s money, they’re
        given a budget by shareholders and expected to turn a profit. MS isn’t
        going to throw endless billions into Xbox.

        Xbox is not “doing
        well”. The Xbox brand has lost MS billions of dollars, with Xbox One set
        to lose even more money. MS consumer products like Bing, Surface
        tablets, and Xbox are all money losers for MS and some shareholders are
        increasingly unhappy about it.,,,

        • DougLord

          Ohh its my favorite smart, realistic, fresh, benevolent, and always right little Sony Pony. You are delicious, delightful and good.
          PS4 has no meaningful graphics advantage. Avg TV size is 46″ and average seating distance is 9+ feet. Avg person can’t tell the difference between 900p and 1080p at that distance. They can’t even tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at that distance. And with all of the masturbating to furry porn you do, you couldn’t tell the difference at the 2 inches you would need to stand from the tv so you have enough room to rub your tiny little precious Sony Pony peepee.
          Did the little Sony Pony get mad that the XBone out sold the PS4 in the US 65.5k to 53.4k this week? Out sold you last week too – 59.4k to 55.1k. Is the precious little Sony Pony mad the XBone sales were up and PS 4 sales were down? Or is the precious little Sony Pony mad that lifetime US software sales are 7.8mm for XBone vs 6.7mm for PS4.
          Only smart , mentally stable, realistic little Sony Ponies agree.
          Im sorry I forgot you aren’t good with numbers. You think 7.1mm/4.3mm is 2:1.
          XBone is going to CRUSH it in both China and India, just like the 360 did. The 360 sold 44mm – or 55% of its total consoles out side the US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand and other countries the XBone has launched in.
          Poor little Sony Pony, please don’t kill yourself when the manufacturer of the little plastic box you prefer goes bankrupt. You tried your very best to keep them solvent by trolling for them from your mother’s basement. You and your tiny little 2″ peepee just weren’t enough.

          • Sucka Free
          • DougLord

            That was hillarious

          • You are flat out wrong

            Oh look, another cute little Xbot griping about resolution. $500 for a gimped cable box, you’d have to be mad.

            Let me guess, VGChartz, right? Let’s ignore the fact that it was totally wrong about March’s hardware numbers (Xbone ahead of PS4 by 50,000 when PS4 was ahead of Xbone by 60,000). By the way, lifetime global PS4 software sales are at 20.5 million. Xbone is…oh wait, they didn’t release numbers.

            Consoles haven’t taken off in India (it took a decade to sell a million PS2s) and China is mobile/F2P PC MMO land, so you can get that idea out of your head. This time the Xbone doesn’t have a year lead or Sony’s bad PR to give it a boost either.

            It’s over. Finished. I’m sorry. :)

      • DougLord

        Nope – they already sold off the TV business. Same with PCs, phones & cemeras and all of their buildings. At this point they are basically just PS4 and a movie studio with around $55 BILLION of debt.

        • vicky

          keep crying a river xbot.

      • vicky

        Microsoft CFO amy hood has said they are “drawing down” Xbox one production because they can’t sell the stuff they already made.

        IF xbone continues to be sell badly, the Microsoft board will shut xbox division down. Microsoft isn’t a charity for xbox fanboys. It’s a business.

        Xbox very rarely makes a profit due to the incredible amount of cash they spend on marketing.

    • Michael Cardwell

      They failed at nothing until 3 years have passed and they are still struggling in my eyes… Lot of great games that people will undeniably buy the console for anyway are inevitably coming. Halo 2 remake will move consoles! That’s not even Halo 5 either wait until next year for that! Gears the year after. Get back to me then… Until then don’t bother saying anything to me cause I want respond until then

      • vicky

        halo halo and gears? is that it?

        yeah just like titanfall was going to change the world. but didn’t. remind me how many xbones titanfall shifted?

        • Michael Cardwell

          It’s called loyal fan bases… Maybe you know nothing about that. Regardless good for you… Lol

  • They Call Me Senpai

    All that money means nothing if they aren’t going to use it to make worthwhile products. Microsheep will bleat on all day about Sony supposedly going bankrupt, but they’re still putting millions of dollars into R&D to keep improving their products – meanwhile, Microsoft seems content with just sitting on theirs.

    I guess it’s to be expected, though, seeing as Microsoft has the wool pulled down over the eyes of idiot consumers who make the conscious decision to settle for crap because Microsoft has them accustomed to it.

    • You are flat out wrong

      They need the money to fix Windows.

      • Sucka Free

        Don’t worry, they will…in Win9 while simultaneously introducing a whole new batch of problems. Remember, at Microsoft they are not called bugs, they are called “undocumented features”

  • Failz

    Sony fanbabies in MS news? It must sting them knowing that what MS make in 1 quarter of the year is worth more then SCE. GO play PS4 games… oh wait I understand. Keep posting.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Must be bored of Titanfall.

      • Vious

        I don’t even have that game yet.

        • You are flat out wrong

          But I wasn’t talking to you.

          • vicky

            must be an alt account, MS astroturfers are getting sloppy these days.

          • Michael Cardwell

            Lol

          • You are flat out wrong

            Obviously not paying them enough in Redmond.

    • superkarma

      And yet, all that profit doesn’t do anything to help move X1 units. Funny how that works out, eh?

  • Fusion_Pirate

    I know this is a report for investors & shareholders…but really?! Only 1.2 million Xbox Ones “shipped in” to retailers over the last quarter? Not only are they getting spanked by Sony, but the paddle is getting bloody. LoL

    • Michael Cardwell

      What does it matter if there actually making a nice profit instead of a loss lol? That’s what matters most to companies…

      • vicky

        They are not making a profit. Retailers are discounting heavily. and giving the games away for free.

        • Michael Cardwell

          Ok Vicky whatever you say.. Not even talking about that but ok.. Lol

  • Guest

    Hahaha, all those desperate $0N¥ Paupers on this site full of schmucks watching how their company goes to death when a company like MS can even have a hard time with the Xbox One and continue to destroy them. LOL! Poor low IQ paupers.

    • superkarma

      Why bother posting if you’re just going to delete your own comment moments later? Are you really that much of a coward? Lol, silly fanboys.

    • vicky

      keep paying $100 more for your for weaker xbox hardware. That is the real stupidity.

  • Galen Nycroft

    People keep skipping to the ending without seeing the big picture. There are NO GAMES out right now. Once more AAA titles start rolling in, more systems will move!

    Why do people think the ‘gaming war’ is already over, or even that there is any kind of war?

  • Michael Cardwell

    When Halo and Gears drop X1 will fly off shelves… Think If Sunset Overdrive,Quantum Break,and that Halo 2 remake actually come out this year the X1 could really help itself this holiday as well!

  • MarcusGrayMD

    Wow, so the console is so channel stuffed they’re planning to slow or even stop production? Demand must be near non-existent now Titanfall has come and gone (Not that it seemed to do much for the console anyways).

    Can’t say as I sympathise considering what a huge disappointment my Xbox One has been so far.

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