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The Order: 1886 Dev Explains “Filmic” Definition, Promises Surpises; E3 Video Ran on Actual PS4 Hardware

by on July 2, 2014 3:02 PM 124

The upcoming PS4 exclusive  The Order: 1886 has been defined “filmic” quite often, both by developers and by gamers, with those that criticize the game using the term to describe the game as some sort of largely non-interactive Dragon’s Lair revival.

Today Ready at Dawn CTO Andrea Pessino clarified On Twitter that their definition of “filmic” has nothing to do with lack of interactivity:

“filmic” is meant to describe the visual style, not the gameplay. Perhaps we should have just made up a word… : D

Pessino also promised that Ready at Dawn still has a lot of surprise in store for us from here to launch:

We got a lot of surprises left to reveal as the date gets closer… stay tuned. : )

Many have stated that the game has more open and colorful environments than the corridors we saw so far, and hopefully those are part of the “surprises” awaiting for us.

The game’s official Twitter account also confirmed that the gameplay footage we saw at E3 ran on a “Real PS4,”  it’s “how the game looks.” dispelling any doubt about it running on different specs.

Hopefully we’ll get to see more soon. February 20th is still quite far.

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  • Guest

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    • Stanleyros

      Good for you

    • solkeher

      You already apologized. Just let it go… ;)

  • BlackestNight63

    I don’t doubt that the game is running on PS4, but I will say they need to show more open, colorful environments at Gamescom bc a lot of people are underwhelmed by the amount of footage shown so far. I love the lore, but the gameplay shown thus far has been a bit drab.

    • Cassive

      Couldn’t of put it better myself

    • Alkaporty

      Yeah I agree, it kinda seems like an average third-person shooter to be honest. I hope they are reserving the big surprises for the end

      • BlackestNight63

        I want to hope that’s the case bc I liked the games that RaD have worked on in the past.

      • BLOB

        I think that the only reason why this game was delayed.
        It’s a multiplayer mode.
        Wait & See. :-)

        • Mr0303

          No multiplayer, please! I implore you!

          • BLOB

            I don’t care if it’s not mp . the game is great without multi.
            Many wants mp mode (complaining)

    • Mr0303

      Have you been to London? :D We don’t have colour here. Seeing the Sun is an astronomical event. So this may be just them chasing realism. Obligatory: praisetheSun.jpg

      • BLOB

        Colors are just great for that game. Its like Van Helsing. Sleepy Hollow.
        With The Order :1886. AWESOME!

      • BlackestNight63

        I’m aware of how London looks, and I can appreciate the accuracy in their portrayal of look, but I’d like to see more. Like it says in the article, other people claim to have seen more than just the grayish outside parts of the game, so I hope they show some more colorful parts soon.

        • Mr0303

          Sure. There should be more, fields, swamps, ancient castles. All that belong in the Order of the Round table universe.

  • Delsin Rowe

    we heard that ALOT !!! “We got a lot of surprises left to reveal as the date gets closer… stay tuned”
    Honestly, as much as i love this game, but i didn’t see any suprises from it. ready at dawn should work harder to advertise. they are not good at it.
    i want a video that shows pure gameplay. 10 minutes of gameplay.

    • Giuseppe Nelva

      You have missed the fact that Ready at Dawn isn’t the publisher. Advertisement isn’t their job.

      What’s shown is decided by Sony.

      • Delsin Rowe

        what? so everything that we see is up to the publishers? i don’t think so.
        ready at dawn don’t allowed to shows us videos? i don’t think so :D

        • Voice of friendship

          Actually he is right technically they have no ability to directly influence the advertising. That’s all on sony’s end.

        • Porcu Peth

          he’s right, it’s up to Sony. Although, not Sony as a whole obviously, just certain key people.
          For example, when Sony streamed that short demo a few weeks before E3, RAD, the following day, said they didn’t even have any idea that that was going to happen. Sony just did it on their own.

        • Giuseppe Nelva

          May not think so. But that’s how it is.

      • solkeher

        Do you think this game will get reviewed well? By that I mean, if critics will like it? Some people have mixed opinions about The Order. My only fear is that Sony is advertising the game and spending a lot of money on it but if it doesn’t get a good reception, it’s going to be bad. However I don’t think that reviews will affect sales, not that much, similar to Beyond Two Souls.

    • MrSec84 .

      The reveal of the half breed was a surprise, no one knew exactly what they were outside of Ready at Dawn or Sony prior to E3.

      No one knew just how tough that enemy was compared to the Humans people will be facing, not until the E3 demo.

  • supersungin

    stay tuned he said

    • Delsin Rowe

      it’s not coming to your stupid pc you know. lol
      don’t worry. you can play destiny on your pc. oh my, you can’t do that either. lol

      • supersungin
        • Delsin Rowe

          i know that :D

          • supersungin

            and also ff15 pc release

          • Delsin Rowe

            NOpe. final fantasy never comes to pc.

          • supersungin
          • Redinferno124

            Sungin, PLEASE STOP! Every time you post you purposely get into these dumb little fights with Delsin. I know you two hate the hell out of each other, but stop dragging everyone else into it.

            And for the record, that article only mentions that it’s using Direct X11 and only speculates that a PC version “MAY” be in the cards, nothing is confirmed. You should know better than to take anything that SE says at face value. For all we know, the games wont release at all!

            Please stop being such a narcissist and Delsin learn to chill, you know he pulls this crap on purpose.

          • supersungin

            DirectX 11, enables the addition of advanced effects and features in NVIDIA-enhanced titles, ranging from tessellation and HBAO+, to Percentage Closer Soft Shadows and (NVIDA) HairWorks.i neve say anything,his the one who start the bad feedback in every comment i post,so its not my fault.

          • Redinferno124

            OK, but if you don’t have definitive proof, DON’T POST IT! You know Delsin is gonna go off on you why do it?

            I’m not dismissing the possibility since I’m very aware of the implications of what the article is saying, but we’ve been at this for nearly a decade and we still don’t have any concrete information beyond that the games are gonna be on PS4 and Xbox One.

            You should know better than anybody that despite how game development works, the idea of a PC port is still probably up in the air right now.

            Do you know how much Nomura had to do to convince SE to keep the games from going mobile? Read this please:

            http://www.p4rgaming.com/tetsuya-nomura-spent-3-months-convincing-square-enix-not-to-move-final-fantasy-xv-to-smartphones/

            I understand the desire to see the games look their best, but we need to actually get them out first!

          • Delsin Rowe

            i can’t do that. i hate pc gamers that think they are right :D
            But just for you i won’t say a thing anymore ;)

          • Redinferno124

            But you have to recognize at this point that you guys won’t agree on most topics and trying to win a console vs PC debate is so utterly stupid because half the time it doesn’t matter. I’m surprised People haven’t learned from Watch Dogs yet. Too much emphasis on graphics, not enough substance.

          • Jeff Maxwell

            http://store.steampowered.com/search/?snr=1_4_4__12&term=final+fantasy
            wrong, and if FF15 bin in development for 8 years and AAA games costing more and more they prolly NEED it to be released on more than 1 platform

          • Redinferno124

            ^^^THIS! The reason for KH3 and FFXV isn’t because of some petty console war, it’s because they need the money! Think about it, 5 Million people on X1 + 7 Million people on PS4 = BANK!

            Why would they be so stupid not to consider the potential combined sales? If things go well, there will probably be at least a PC port of FF XV, but lets make SE just focus on getting the games made and released first, OK!

          • Redinferno124

            You are one the few PC guys I know that doesn’t go out of his way to be a jerk.

          • Dynasty2021

            Console owners are never right though.

            PC users said PS4 wouldn’t do 1080p and 60 FPS.

            Name one game that does. Looks like we were right. Suck it peasant.

          • They Call Me Senpai

            Tomb Raider, Resogun, Ground Zeroes, Wolfenstein, etc.

            Man you’re a dumbass.

          • supersungin

            ground zeroes demo for 30 dollars,tomb raider are always on pc,wolfenstien too

          • They Call Me Senpai

            Be careful, those goalposts look heavy.

          • Creed

            You just named 3 games that are 1080p 60fps on PS4.

          • Redinferno124

            What’s your obsession with calling everyone peasants? I bet $100 that’s your just some average guy like everyone else with an average salary who just happened to save up enough for a decent gaming machine. If you were rich, I know you wouldn’t be here. Wake up and face reality, you don’t live in an Ivory Tower.

          • Delsin Rowe

            lol. you are so funny

          • Ben

            I Love you Troll :)

          • Jecht_Sin

            To PC? To do what? To have all those losers bitching because the m&k controls are terrible? Or to delay the games even more, especially FF XV? For what? a couple of hundred thousand more sales? That would be quite an SE thing to do indeed.

          • supersungin

            no reply ? ok

          • Redinferno124

            Deslin we both know that’s a lie.

        • Jecht_Sin

          Confirmed, huh?

          There’s currently no official announcement for a PC version of No Man’s Sky, so naturally this is all highly theoretical.

      • Dynasty2021

        So?

        Destiny is just more generic Halo crap from the guys that made Halo.

        The Order looks like another generic 3rd person cover shooter.

        Everything about the PS4 so far is generic. At least PC has cheaper, UNIQUE games like, oh I don’t know, DayZ or The Forest that the console devs are SCRAMBLING to copy with laughable crap like H1Z1.

        • Redinferno124

          Oh great lets add some more fuel to the atomic bomb that’s this comment section.

          Dynasty, we all know you hate the PS4 and all it’s games and anyone who buys one including myself is a peasant and moron, but can you please not rehash this crap again?

        • They Call Me Senpai

          As if the opinion of a brain dead troll matters to anyone.

        • Delsin Rowe

          lol
          shhhh, chill out.

        • Jecht_Sin

          Demon’s Souls and Bloodborne say hi. So they do all FF and KH SP RPGs since FF IX. Probably the sales of FF VII and FF VIII on PC were so disappointing that SquareSoft rightly decided to move on.

        • Anarky

          Dayz is a mess that’s still in alpha. H1Z1 actually looks like a completed game. Also Bloodborne and LBP 3 say hi! But knowing you’re type you’re going to try and downplay those games and claim their garbage even if their extremely good.

        • Budgiecat

          PC sux

      • Redinferno124

        God, watching you two go at each other is like watching Goku vs Frieza all over again. It just drags on and on.

    • http://www.twitch.tv/MC_A_DOT A DOT ASANTE

      You do make me laugh…

      http://i.giftrunk.com/bk39bx.gif

      Sit down son.

  • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

    I can’t wait for this game. I like that they are incorporating “multiple” styles in to the final product. I don’t think “filmic” should be a negative at all…especially since the style has a beauty and flow to it.

  • Ricoh123

    Another disappointing game for the ps4.

    Driveclub next.

    Will the ps4 get any decent games? Just one triple a blockbuster perhaps?

    • Delsin Rowe

      xbox ponies alert. lol

      • Redinferno124

        He’s a PC bastard.

        • Delsin Rowe

          sad for him. he just can play his multi platform games with a high end pc. lol

        • rudero

          He’s both a boner and pc fanboy which makes me think he jumped from the boner defense force because he has nothing to fight with so brings up the PC now. Noticed a lot them changing over to “my PC” in order to brag.

          • Redinferno124

            just forget it.

        • BLOB

          LoL!

    • Redinferno124

      Another generic PC troll who thinks have a gaming machine that costs over $1000 makes him queen of England.

      • supersungin

        yes we do

        • Redinferno124

          No…..you really don’t. The only thing guys like you can claim to have are narcissistic personalities.

          • supersungin

            you know i stopped watching one piece when ace died.

          • Redinferno124

            That’s cool, but how exactly is that relevant?

          • supersungin

            go figure

          • Redinferno124

            In case you’re interested at all, One Piece is currently at episode 651 and chapter 752.

          • supersungin

            they can get the game or wherever they like,but they cant run away from the criticism..

          • Redinferno124

            Who is running away? Please explain?

          • supersungin

            every fanboy who dont like facts or reality

          • Redinferno124

            That’s fanboys. What evidence is there that RAD is running away from criticism? This game could bomb horribly, but it’s not fair to judge a game that won’t be out for like 7 months.

          • supersungin

            thats true

          • Redinferno124

            Thanks you. I won’t pretend that this game is good if it turns out to be a disaster, but I’ll never understand why people don’t want more good games to play rather than garbage like this that gets approved on steam:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=T3cOz37OLoQ

          • supersungin

            this game ejected by valve

          • Redinferno124

            Good, now they can get rid of greenlight all together, it was a mistake that had a few success stories, nothing more.

          • supersungin

            then how we know talent game developers who need choice?

          • Redinferno124

            They’ll find away. Give devs more credit.

          • They Call Me Senpai

            What do you know about facts or reality? Everything you say is fanboy crap.

          • supersungin

            but what i said is fact

          • Redinferno124

            Again, you posted an article that while it explains some very exciting possibilities, does not prove anything one way or another. It’s not true, it’s not false, it’s simply speculation based on a some known factors that may or may not mean anything.

          • supersungin

            i watch naruto shipuden

          • BlackestNight63

            Maybe he was guessing on your progress in the story, so it would’ve possibly have pissed you off.

          • Redinferno124

            That’s possible, but then why didn’t he just ask me directly? I would have gladly answered. It’s getting so hard to tell when people are being serious.

        • Budgiecat

          there’s no Godzilla games for PC

    • Alkaporty

      Kinda stupid to say that at this point.

    • superkarma

      Another pathetic troll in another Sony article. What a shocker.

      As I told you in the other Sony article you attempted to troll (but failed miserably)…you don’t own a PS4, so why do you care?

    • They Call Me Senpai

      You couldn’t be anymore wrong if you tried, little troll.

    • toddraynerart

      Troll fail! If PS4 has no decent games, what the hell do all the other inferior game consoles have? They must be in really big trouble, on my god how will the gaming universe survive on X-bone and Wii U alone. Bro’ Please. Get a life.

    • Not_true

      The Order seems like a well done third person shooter with gameplay variety and a strong story . It will review and sell well. You should give the game a chance or wait for more details before condemning it.

      “Cover shooters” with a story focus are among some of the highest rated games last gen (The Last of Us, Uncharted, Gears of War, Mass Effect, etc.). TLOU gameplay is considered good on the highest difficulty mode with a focus on survival, conservation, and stealth.

      PS4 has many great AAA games that gamers love. That is why it’s 3.8 million ahead in sales and growing.

  • MrSec84 .

    Variety is important in all forms of entertainment, if every game was the same people would complain that no developer tries anything new & they’d get bored of this hobby.

    This format of blending cut scenes with gameplay isn’t done very often, nor does it look to be as seamless in any game prior to this.
    The setting of this game also seems very unique, IMO it’s a great thing that Ready at Dawn are trying something different with their story.

    This looks to be a very appealing title, with great gameplay & a very compelling story, IMO gamers can’t ask for anything more, another awesome title for PS4.

  • SaiyanJedi_Trunks

    Why do people have a “problem” with this game? People just want to compare games to established franchises all the time. Then you wonder why we only get sequels…especially when it comes to shooters. I personally have loved what I have seen so far, and I hope it turns out well.

    • Sexy Mcgee

      I think it’s because despite being a new IP everything about 1886 but the visuals is stale. People yelled at shooters last gen for being corridor whack-a-moles that focused on graphics and then one of the most pre-ordered games of the new generation is a corridor whack-a-mole with pretty graphics.

      Funny part is that while this new IP is coming off as a bare bones shooter with tired gameplay almost all long running series I’ve seen at E3 are trying to refresh or build on their established ideas and expand their gameplay.

      I think at the time of unveiling fanboys clung to this game in a desperate attempt to prove something but as time goes on and more games of actual worth are revealed and released 1886 will be forgotten. Everything I’m seeing and based on previews this game is heading in the direction of Lair or Haze, Heavenly Sword if we’re lucky.

      • Budgiecat

        Nobody complained about Gears of War, Uncharted or the Last of Us..

        Now all of a sudden people are whining? Yet praising Uncharted 4, and a Last of Us port?? And a Halo collection??

        • andy

          Yeah but this guy clearly has seen and played this entire game, don’t mock him. He is said everything based on absolutely nothing whatsoever.

  • Raian K.

    I actually think that even if this game is ” filmy” its a welcome addition to PS library. Its very similar to Gears yes, but the lore is very interesting and its graphics are mind-blowing to think the PS4 could even handle 4x MSAA surprised me.

    • supersungin

      4x MSAA??

      • Raian K.

        Yeah the game is running on a 1080p 30 FPS frame buffer with 4x MSAA and also using a custom physics engine.

        • Edward CORE

          The game will be a custom 1920×800, which will help them to render those extreme system pushing graphics. But since they went with the “filmic” style, with black bars above and below the image, like a 2.35:1 Bluray, we won’t notice the lower resolution, and it will look like a real full HD image.

          • RyTeOuS
          • Edward CORE

            Kotaku explanation is off. Understanding this is easy.

            The game image is rendered at 1920x800p. The difference is that the image won’t be made to be stretched or fitted on the whole screen, but will be scanned line by line, hence the black bars. There’s not such a thing like a “1080p image but displayed at 800p”, as the article says. That’s only marketing talk to prevent confusion. That black space won’t be used for rendering image, but the pixel density will match the same of a 1080 pixels horizontally. That’s why the image will be have “1080p” fidelity, but it will have a scan of 800p horizontal, and remain 1920p vertically.

            This is obviously an ingenious trick to boost image quality making the rendering area smaller and improve performance graphic-wise, and pretty much the same as making the game with a lower resolution (1600×900 as an example), but without the loss of image fidelity when you have to stretch it to fit the screen.

          • RyTeOuS

            So when the devs themselves said “full HD 1080p”, I should not believe them but rather believe you, I should also disregard kotaku’s input, okay then.

            But no matter how it is running in the background I am sure it will look great on my tv.

            “Currently we do not aim [for] 60 frames per second. In a first person shooter that [surely] makes sense. Also fighting games are undoubtedly predestined for 60 frames. But for us, the cinematic experience is in the foreground [basically focus] – presented in full HD 1080p. In favor of spectacular effects and the highest resolution we restrict ourselves to a fluid 30 frames per second,”

          • Edward CORE

            The resolution on the screen will match a 1080p, but only a space of 800p will be rendered, it is not that hard to understand. This a technique used since the 8-bit days, when the sprite count on the screen could be dramatically reduced by positioning the status menus in a black bar under or above the game, just to make sure the whole screen is used, but only partially filled by the game’s sprites. As an example, Super Metroid uses the status menu above on a black bar.

            It won’t be less crisp than a 1080p image, because it will use the same pixel density but on a 800p area. If the devs are smart enough, they can use the black bars to show subtitles out of the render area, much like we have subtitles on a Bluray movie. The filmic style is just a cool way to say they are solving a performance problem without sacrificing image quality.

            Honestly, I think this technique should be used more often than making games at a smaller resolution overall and it be fitted on the full screen. Of course, not all games could benefit from this, but

          • Raian K.

            I think what Edward is trying to say is that by the definition of Full HD which is an image taking the whole screen and rendering it at 1920×1080 it does not do that. While it may have the pixel density of a 1080p image, technically it isn’t. None the less its easy to understand why simply because the GPU on the PS4 while great, isn’t powerful enough to handle bough advanced aliasing along with a constant frame buffer of 1920×1080, 700 PC can handle that, so to expect a 400 unit to do so would be crazy. None the less its gonna have the best console graphics, until Uncharted or the next Gears so the specs could mean less.

        • Not_true

          UFC on PS4 also has 4x MSAA.

    • Edward CORE

      I just hope they include some vertical sync, maybe it’s the buffering, but in every video I saw, there was some unwanted tearing. I think they made an smart choice going “filmic” with this game, the can subtly lowering the horizontal resolution to 800p (vertical is still 1920) to boost image quality and keep up with all the graphical showcase. It does resembles a bit of Gears, but I would say, for me, it is the first game that looks just as beautiful as Ryse, they share a very similar graphical structure, with all those classic setup, but a step up with all those particles and lighting effects. Really want this game to be as good as it looks.

  • Ω GUNTZ

    All this back and forth between fanboys is keeping me entertained greatly.
    http://i.imgur.com/Enb8b4j.gif

    • Budgiecat

      Goku is Sony, Cell is Microsoft?

      • Guest

        foolish

  • TRICO

    I Love the atmosphere and level design in this game

    (Day1 )

  • Emir Gacevic

    everyone is talking about this game ! :) haters and ppl like me who cant wait to put it in the ps4 :) Like they say in Wolf Of Wall Street THERE IS NO BAD advertisement.

  • RealityCheck2013

    I CAN’T WAIT :P (+ it’s difficult but i won’t be watching any more Videos of this game) I know i want it :P

  • Budgiecat

    “filmic” is meant to describe the visual style, not the gameplay. Perhaps we should have just made up a word… : D”

    I knew this before they explained it.

    Of course, some idiots need it spelled out for them..

  • erMonezza

    The atmosphere looks awesome. If the story is going to be good and with just a couple on-rails sequences (werewolf corridor gameplay), to introduce a new enemy or a bit of storyline I’m probably going to buy this one, otherwise I’m keeping my money.

  • Why So Serious?

    Super excited for this title, I’ve said it before that I don’t understand the constant criticism and questions it receives. It’s not like RAD is Ubisoft which has made some questionable changes with graphical fidelity after showing different game models. Lighten up people, we should all be grateful an IP like this is going to grace the PS4.

  • Craig Sloan

    Gameplay is king, Nail that and it will be good.

  • daxecutioner

    If this game mixes several components together such as suspense, horror, gunplay it will be golden. Hopefully you get to actually kill one of those werewolves with bullets

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