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PlayStation Now Survey Hints to Possibility to pay 15% More for “Deluxe Versions” With All DLC

by on July 4, 2014 2:34 PM 78

PlayStation Now‘s pricing model has ruffled feathers between fans and even between many of those that were enthusiastic about the service before. In the meanwhile Sony seems to be looking into more options, as shown by a survey seeking for the testers’ opinion on possible “Deluxe versions” of games.

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Apparently the Deluxe option would prompt users to pay 15% more in order to get access to all the DLC coming with a game, while we also get a question on possible further rental periods.

Of course this doesn’t mean that Sony Computer Entertainment is going to implement the option for sure, as this kind of surveys are designed to gauge preliminary interest in the option, but it’s very likely that there will be some kind of support for DLC, whether in this form or another.

Would you pay 15% on top of the original price for this kind of PlayStation Now version of a season pass?

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  • Eggman

    Still hoping they implement a subscription based service and add a ton of PS1 and PS2 games.

    • Jeff Maxwell

      they may offer subscription based for certain games but new AAA’s no chance

      • Eggman

        Yeah I wouldn’t mind that at all. Like Netflix the movies are older but I still don’t mind paying the $7.99 a month for it. Would love them to throw some classics on their like some of the classic jrpg’s from PS1

        • Jeff Maxwell

          something like that PS1 + 2 era combine into 1 tier of subscription, PS3 era into say tier 2 subscription… they’ll never do a PS4 one unless it incorporated indies but then that might wipe out the free ps+ games. who knows

      • Sucka Free

        But there aren’t that may new PS3 AAA’s and there will never be any more new AAA PS2 and PS1 games. I’ll be buying new games for my PS4, only thing I care about with this service is having access to legacy games

        • Jeff Maxwell

          read my post lower again hahah answer your reply I think :d

  • Jeff Maxwell

    I think +15% is reasonable seeing as say BF4 on origin was £45 + £40 for premium dlc so +15% not that much although it depends on how long your going to be renting it for. If its BF4 and your a hardcore BFielder or any sort of multiplayer game renting the game for months on end may end up costing you more. If it was single player could rent it for a month complete it then wait for dlc pay for 4-7 days complete that wait for the next one etc or if they’ve thought of that… would they start cutting stuff out or creating more and more dlc just so you top that subscription up. food for thought

  • Guywithbrains

    Why should I pay for the games that I already own? Now that Last of Us is coming to Playstation 4, there is really no reason to rent old games.

    • They Call Me Senpai

      That’s the beauty of it, you don’t have to.

    • Eggman

      People are already saying they are able to stream games they have purchased on PS3 for free. Also you don’t have to pay if you don’t want to.

  • DLConspiracy//

    Let’s just see if the actual games get off the ground first. I am not really sure this thing will take off too quickly without that subscription based service. I can’t imagine too many people jumping at the idea to pay more. Seems like the games that are running heavier engines or newer engines seem to lag the most. Older games seem to run the best on the service.

    • Jeff Maxwell

      prolly cus the newer engines are more complex to render and may not be enough server power available or something

      • DLConspiracy//

        You might be right. I don’t know how they are running things on their servers really so.. it’s entirely possible. If they were just running a hardware streaming from consoles that may be different. It wouldn’t really matter at that point as it’s a hardware stream of a hardware console. So it has to be all software if they are running into that problem.

        • Jeff Maxwell

          or it could be your connection, ISP, latency, distance to the PS Now servers etc etc lots of factors really. cant imagine theyd do ps4 games that havnt got enough power to stream em though

          • DLConspiracy//

            Well from the people who have talked about it (varied mbps speeds) it has been the same response. Slow or Fast connections so far. The side scrolling older games that use up less GPU/CPU seem to work fine even on low speeds. However, games like the sniper game dropped to crawl on the fast speeds.

          • Jeff Maxwell

            ah right… ive watched BrokenGamezHD youtube when he had a go and he said the game he got… it was indie title or someat just to test it out said that it looked washed out and was like youtube compression. So would suck to rent a new AAA game only for it to be compressed somewhat and losing quality cus end of the day that’s what you’ve bought your new console for, high fidelity. they might be seeing how tolerable certain compression levels are over the network to try get as less compression as possible but I wouldn’t be happy with a compressed feed. may as well just buy the game then sell least its at full quality

          • DLConspiracy//

            Yeah I agree and this is why it’s important to do a subscription based program. Don’t let the consumer figure out what to spend it on by giving us varied prices for different games because of rights between Sony and developers/publishers. Sony should figure that out and give us a smorgasbord to choose from. This will help them give consumers a foot in the door and gain money enough to build those servers up even more. It will also make people feel a little more understanding for any hiccups the service has in the beginning. At least I would be more willing to accept these issues if there was a flat fee. Rather than paying X amount to get crappy service maybe. If that makes sense.

          • Jeff Maxwell

            yeah but I think youll still get a sub standard experience through compression and input lag and stuff based on your own connection cus if your local exchange is having a bad day or ISP is having routing problems then its not going to do it much good haha. think that’s one of the problems of streaming games, films isn’t a problem cus its a 1 way street but in games your inputting that has to get to server processed then streamed back down which takes time and any interruption in between is bad soooo its hard to say how good it is and if its worth the money

          • DLConspiracy//

            That’s very true. I don’t think it would be such a problem when they put the new fiber optic lines in. Google fiber is popping up in a few cities in the states. That’s CHEAP service. It’s like 250mbps down and like 50 up for $60 a month. INSANE. PS NOW is not a service for capped bandwidth though.. So those people with crappy ISPs miss out. I think that’s s$%t for cable companies to do that anyway.

          • Jeff Maxwell

            well that’s the thing its a service for everyone and not everyone has fast internet especially in eastern europe if it takes less than 400KB’s down and less than 20KB up they prolly got a winner.

            Ive got a massive problem I bought a PS4 when I was drunk off ebay and was going sell it but I got it here and I want to open it havnt got any games for it though but really thinking about keeping it now cus its a new toy, and im thinking about getting infamous seeing as I gave it loads of heat to see what its really like and maybe get KZ cus both would only cost £40 used. What you think I should do?

          • DLConspiracy//

            Well I have both. I like both. I tend to play my Xbox One a little more because I have a lot more friends on XBL. I bought and traded KZ. It was cool, but nothing worth keeping really. It’s cool to play and beat for SP and maybe a few MP games. Infamous I have still yet to play. I have only heard a few of my PS friends say they wanted more from it and that it got a little too repetitive. However, they did say it looked pretty great. I personally think you should keep it. At least to collect some of the free games you will get for the PS+ service. There will be more games for it.

            I break my categories for games down like this.

            PS4 – SP games, Indies and exclusives
            Xbox One – MP games, Indies and Exclusives
            PC – Any of the above leaning more offline, but I am starting to play more MP on PC lately.

            Wii U – STILL waiting to get.. too much money on games lately. I still want it.

          • Jeff Maxwell

            I havnt owned a console since the N64 had a PC for like 20 years now so hmm I dunno also today was thinking about infamous and you know the photo mode it does how stuff like the chain looks really fluid I kind of reminds me of the gloss effect in Photoshop… I wonder in photo mode adds a gloss filter to make it look much better than it is in photo mode I dunno

          • DLConspiracy//

            Yeah I don’t know. I don’t know too much about the game tbh. Well, I guess you should decide on if the exclusives outweigh the cost of selling the system man. If you think you could regret it at SOME point, you may want to hang onto it.

          • Jeff Maxwell

            can always rebuy it again it doesn’t cost that much does it, seeing as im not sure when new GPU from AMD + NVidia are coming out so I got time. Project cars and stuff will look better on a better GPU, I put watchdogs onto ultra textures even though I cant run the game properly with it I usually set it to high rest ultra get 30ish fps and OMG the difference between high and ultra is massive, the detail just in the road being highlighted by a cars headlights is mental. you can seen the bumpy imperfections its stunning tbh. im not 100% into racers so I can live with it think I want to run Witcher 3 and defo SC for release at 1080p max/ultra and 60+fps which only the new GPU’s can achieve

          • DLConspiracy//

            Yeah I did the Worse mod too. I hear there is another version now. v.3 that gives you MORE options on the visuals for Watch Dogs btw. Here it is.

            http://www.dsogaming.com/news/watch_dogs-enhanced-reality-mod-v3-released-comes-with-five-different-presets/

            Yeah I am definitely getting The Witcher 3 on PC. That’s one thing I always want on PC. RPGs or anything that can look that pretty on a system.

          • Jeff Maxwell

            no theres TheWorse mod 0.8 which is a collaboration between 3 ppl, Kadzait 5 I think and errr that one enhanced reality v3… so dunno which is the best tbh. might play with enhaced reality tomorrow. theworse mod 0.8 is apparently the new patch compatible but theres the laught the ubisoft patch made the game WORSE for ppl, how does that happen. pure incompetence man incompetence

      • Sucka Free

        No, the whole point of a server is to have overkill specs. The problem doesn’t lie at the server end but most likely the internet latency or throughput

        • Jeff Maxwell

          yeah its why I said a post lower could be ISP latency distance to servers etc so hard to pinpoint a problem that a person may be having

          • Sucka Free

            yeah, each person will have a slightly (or not so slight) different experience. Back when the beta was free, I tried a few games and they ran just as well as if I were running the disk

          • Jeff Maxwell

            were the games you tried PS4 ones at 1080p or PS3 ones at 720p or other games at lower native res because that has a big impact on bandwidth and speed judging at least from how youtube runs, lower res is faster

          • Sucka Free

            There are no PS4 games on PS Now and I think the whole service is 720p

          • Jeff Maxwell

            ah right ok 720p is pretty fast to stream if its half the rate of 1080p 200KB/s connection should be enough which most ppl should have, but guess its down to local exchange subscription, line contention ratios which can be pretty high in the UK, ive heard a lot of times in cities even smallish ones the exchanges are over subscribed to the load they can handle properly so can have an effect more so in peak times and then virgin media keep upping the speeds without properly upgrading the network…. traffic management is the bane!

  • James

    I don’t know why they just don’t make it like Netflix where you get access to everything for a low monthly fee.

    I mean with Netflix, I haven’t watched a movie on there for months but I haven’t canceled my account ’cause it’s do damn cheap… It goes under the radar with me.

    • Jeff Maxwell

      yeah me to its like £6-7 for me atm cus I was a subscriber before the price hike but with Netflix the films only come on when there like 1-2 years old so youd prolly have to wait that long for the ps4 games. if you want new releases then you goto like blinkbox or someat and pay maybe £3.50 for like 3 days rental or something

      • Porcu Peth

        lmao you guys are insane. access to the whole library would cost hundreds of dollars.

        • Jeff Maxwell

          I don’t think it would cus Netflix Lovefilm etc have 100’s films and TV shows for a low price and if they tiered the old stuff out like ps1+2 games under 1 tier subscription there getting revenue back that disappeared a long time ago…. now then new AAA subscription yeah for a sub would cost a lot

        • Sucka Free

          I’m not expecting to have the entire library, maybe about 20% of the library with games shuffled in and out periodically. Like Netflix

    • Sucka Free

      Same here, I’ve been subbing to Netflix and Hulu Plus for years, rarely watch anything. Keep it around because it’s so cheap and just in case I feel like watching something, I know it’s there waiting

      • Jeff Maxwell

        im either a really good friend or just stupid and allow 2 of my friends access to my account, someone may as well get some use out of it haha

        • Sucka Free

          I let my daughter access mine

          • Jeff Maxwell

            ah nice, ive never had any problems with Netflix and I think I know why… if I try access steam from IE instead of chrome itll say oh another browser has accessed your account is this near to you…IP address says Plymouth, its like 100 miles away from me. I think as long as it stays in England its ok cus they don’t pinpoint they aint fussed

          • Sucka Free

            I don’t think they even check. I first subbed to it so that my dad, who was in a nursing home could watch movies on a Roku. At the time I lived 120mi away in a different state. Never a peep out of them about it

          • Jeff Maxwell

            I wonder what the limit is on profiles? could always errrm check and get random people to use it and set up profiles and heavily use it see how long it would take to get a response hahaha kinda stupid but would like to see what there tolerance is

          • Sucka Free

            I’ve never bothered with the profiles, we all just watched as a community pool, but I’ve had as many as 3 households connected to mine at a time. That’s both Netflix and Hulu Plus

          • Jeff Maxwell

            I didn’t either my friends set it up and its kinda good cus say your half way through a series it obviously saves that point plus other stuff like what you’ve previously watched recommendations for you etc and its all different and tuned to your profile. kinda like windows you have different profiles desktops etc and loads em up when you log in

    • Mitch

      Based on the current rental prices, that might be really high. There’s games which cost $14,99 for 1 month. Imagine how high the prices would be if you get access to everything!

  • Alexander

    Wait so I don’t get my PS3/PS2/PS1 games transferred to PS now, do I still need to pay for a game I’ve already bought?!

    • Jeff Maxwell

      id say yeah, your paying for the priviledge of having it run on 1 system and paying for the server time to do it

    • Eggman

      I have heard people say they have been able to play games they have previously purchased for free with PSNow. But today was the first day I have heard it so must be new.

  • Carl

    I think PS Now’s rental pricing policy (which seems to be too high according to leakers) is catered towards more casual gamers. Paying something like $30 for a 3-month rental of a single game is too much. Hardcore gamers would be better served with a subscription of some kind. But let’s wait and see what Sony will officially announce when it is time to launch the service.

    Since PS One/2 emulation will be brought to PS4 eventually (it would be a joke to actually implement it), I hope I will be able to play (either via streaming or emulation) any PS3 games I bought digitally from the PS Store on my PS4/Vita in the future, but I will not pay again to “rent” what I already have bought.

  • Sucka Free

    I’m beginning to have serious misgivings about this service. I don’t want to rent a game here and there for $x.xx for __# of days. I want to pay a subscription for an “all you can eat ” service. Unless that is an option, I’ll have no interest in PS Now

    • 3rdworldgamer

      i agree. sony should have just followed the ps+ model.

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    • Not_true

      It’s meant for people to stream to their phones or TVs. If you already have a PS3 it’s cheaper to buy the disc or buy on PSN.

      Prices are set by publishers not Sony. Those beta prices will probably change.

      They will probably work on PS4 on PSNow which should be in greater demand than PS3 games.

  • EdwardJamesKenwayACIV

    Not really.

  • FAT MAN GO BOOM

    If I am renting it… they should have the extras for free… I am sorry… but there is NO VALUE as a consumer at all on the PlayStation Now.

    • They Call Me Senpai

      No value to you, you can’t speak for others.

  • https://www.facebook.com/TheGamingAlcoholic The Gaming Alcoholic

    All things considered though, they seem to really be shooting themselves in the foot with this whole PlayStation Now business. This is shaping up to be a blunder from everything I have read.

    Wouldn’t they benefit from having a flat subscription fee for this service? Especially if these ridiculous rental prices seen in the beta hold true?

    • DLConspiracy//

      When you invest 380m into something you better turn a profit somehow. They need to see the big picture at the end of the tunnel rather than trying to be greedy up front. Subscription is the ONLY way this will work.

      • https://www.facebook.com/TheGamingAlcoholic The Gaming Alcoholic

        Certainly seems to be the logical step, and would beat the cases where renting a game for three months is more than the price of buying a physical copy to own.

        • DLConspiracy//

          Plus they bank on the ones that don’t use the service which I am sure a lot of casual gamers would do. So it would help them. Get some money/return on the investment.

    • Not_true

      It’s meant for people to stream to their phones or TVs. If you already have a PS3 it’s cheaper to buy the disc or buy on PSN.

      Prices are set by publishers not Sony. Those beta prices will probably change.

      They will probably work on PS4 on PSNow which should be in greater demand than PS3 games.

    • someguy

      You need to do more research before you make final judgement. Sony isn’t the one making the prices the publishers are, maybe for Sony 1st and 2nd parties yes but other games no. Its all about balance here. Sony needs to be able to make profit here. So the way they’re going about it as of now with thr surveys and such is much needed. God if it was up to guys like you they would go out of business already. And believe me before you try to compare it to netflix don’t bother its NOT the same by any stretch. Too many and I mean way too many complications.

      • lassenwolf

        and that’s the point if sony cant control the price it will fail, that’s like saying netflix or any company even burger king has no control in price , its a fail and why be in business for that product

  • DIGITALxALCHEMIST

    Why the dlc is not part of the “rental” at the same price is beyond me…

    But i agree with most about the pricing being to high..

    Read a comment where someone mentioned older games like sonic cd would cost 4.99 for 90 days and agree its a good price but the twist is for sonic cd and most of ps now games library i can go to my local game store and buy it and own the game for the price of that 90 day rental

    • superkarma

      Why would it be included? When you rent games on Gamefly or Redbox, is the DLC included? No…so why would this service be any different? It’s just silly to expect all DLC to be included in the rental price.

      • DIGITALxALCHEMIST

        Ps now is NO gamefly nor redbox not even close psNow is a pay per game where it being older games should have all doc included seeing how they are last gen titles and further back and again PsNow is NO Gamefly period

        • superkarma

          It doesn’t matter. The same principle applies. If you’re talking about pay per game, that may not be Gamefly, but that’s exactly what Redbox is. Do you get DLC included with a Redbox rental? No.

          It also doesn’t matter how old the game is. Expecting DLC to be included simply because it’s a last gen title or older is more than just silly…it’s entitled.

        • someguy

          Well ps1 and ps2 games had no DLC for one and two it would obviously apply to ps3 and ps4 games but those are extra content which come at a price probably 80% of the time so the option would be given here. So why shoukd it be given for free ?

      • Jecht_Sin

        I am quite sure that Sony originally spoke about the PS Now games being fully updated with all DLCs included. What would be the point of making two different installations with two different offers? It would just add confusion.

        • superkarma

          I never heard them ever mentioning all DLC being included with all games. If that were the case, they wouldn’t have asked this survey question. Also, what would be the confusing part about it? It’s just another rental option for the person to choose from.

          • Jecht_Sin

            Nothing, I can’t find it. To google “Playstation now, DLC, patch” or similar terms is a nightmare. I get all kind of irrelevant results. But I do remember it was hinted, because this article surprised me. Regarding the confusion good luck with the microtransactions.. People will hate them even more.

            I consider two options a waste of time. It’s a video game streaming service, Just install all DLC and patch everything and adjust the prices according to the demand.

          • someguy

            There wouldn’t be any confusion becayse it will give you two options, full game with DLC or full game without and descriptions on said DLC what it contains etc….I doubt it will be as confusing as you may think.

  • Jecht_Sin

    The good thing is that Sony is surveying. I am quite sure the results will be pretty much in the opposite direction of what Sony is planning. Because honestly I find the PS Now offer just not interesting.

  • lassenwolf

    I stopped playing or testing the beta since the rentals and lack of free play testing. There is no point and without a subscription Model , Now will fail. The service works well the current model will not.

    • They Call Me Senpai

      Sony stated a while back that there’d be a subscription model and you don’t how successful it’d be without one, so saying it’ll fail with nothing but your opinion to back it up is (for lack of a better word) stupid. As for the prices, all people need to do is continue to complain and they’ll be addressed, it’s that simple.

      • lassenwolf

        Your stupid I ‘ve been in the now beta all year and i’ll tell you what, put up or shut up, play it and if your in it start buying and renting or wait till july 30 and rent. If you are name the games and the price ,dummy for doing it. I’ll guess 1% of us in the beta renting any game

  • Ian Dylan Bareilles

    Honestly there should be a option to not only have a monthly substation to have unlimited access to all the games but also I think their should be a option to buy/purchase a said game honestly .

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