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Spencer: Diablo III 1080p on Xbox One was a “Good Partnership;” Won’t Dictate Frame Rate or Resolution

by on August 20, 2014 4:48 PM 215

It’s pretty funny to see how things work in the gaming industry: when people don’t get something, they often demand it. When they get it, they still find room for criticism. Microsoft has been target of a lot of flak for the fact that many Xbox One games don’t reach a 1080p resolution, and now that Diablo III has touched that “magic number” on Microsoft’s new console, some are criticizing the company for somehow “forcing” Blizzard to do it.

Xbox head honcho Phil Spencer took the chance to clarify on Twitter that no one has been “forced” to push the resolution of the game:

We didn’t force any game to ship at 1080p. We work with devs to make the game they want to make on XB1.

Diablo III was coming through during GPU increases in June, was good partnership to create a great Diablo on XB1.

I just thought we could get to 1080p. If Blizzard thought it wasn’t right for Diablo they had the call on what shipped.

Spencer also responded to a fan who mentioned that he does not care about resolution numbers, as long as they look good and run well:

I agree with you, let the studios make the call on what they want to ship. They know their games better than I do.

Studios decide, even our first party studios, I won’t dictate a framerate and/or resolution on a game.

That definitely seems to be a sensible approach, and I’m pretty sure that we’re going to see more games running at a sub-full HD resolution in the future.

I’m also quite sure that we’ll see many regretting that Microsoft didn’t “force” those developers to push for a higher resolution, but such is the voluble nature of the internet.

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  • oGMo

    “That definitely seems to be a sensible approach, and I’m pretty sure
    that we’re going to see more games running at a sub-full HD resolution
    in the future.”

    Yes. Like I’ve been saying … given they had trouble getting a 2-year-old, graphically mid-tier game running on a very similar architecture to 1080p60, this can only be the beginning of issues.

    Naughty Dog on the other hand ported TLoU, last year’s already-graphically-impressive game, from a very foreign architecture, and got it to hit 1080p60 with significant improvements. Lots of room there.

    • Covert Gamer

      Precisely.

      And not to make one source look bad and another good, but it’s not exactly Internet heresay. Eurogamer spoke with Blizzard devs at Gamescom about it, which is where the whole “dictate” thing originated (link below). I personally love DualShockers and Eurogamer as well, so again not trying to discredit what is posted here.

      And of course Microsoft is not going to come out and say “yes, we told w 3rd party developer what to do on our platform”, that’s bad PR. Everyone wants the massed on heir side, not against them…

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-diablo-3-xbox-one-1080p-patch-performance-analysis?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph

      • Giuseppe Nelva

        Phil Spencer isn’t also going to come out and flat out lie. He’s not forced to answer questions. So if there’s something uncomfortable, he could simply just ignore it. It’s not a formal interview.

        On the other hand, it wouldn’t be the first time that the words of a dev said during a crowded convention in the middle of the noise are misinterpreted or warped, not to mention the fact that the dev himself might very easily word something the wrong way.

        • Sumyung

          Microsoft would not flat out lie?

          The cloud.

          Mate, get yourself a proper job. You’re sh*t at journalism.

          • Giuseppe Nelva

            Thank for the invitation, but I think I’ll pass.

            On the other hand, I’m sure you won’t be surprised by the ban that just hit you in the face. I did warn you beforehand, and if you can’t hold a civil conversation, you got no business here :D

            Have a nice day.

          • ak33715

            No dev I know of has used the cloud for anything other than AI computations. Supposedly Crackdown will rely heavily on the cloud for physics and that demo Microsoft showed focused on maintaining frame rate. Just because it isn’t available on a widespread basis doesn’t mean Microsoft lied about its potential. It’s called being patient.

          • Suliman العمر

            Exactly. We have yet to know what the cloud can offer, it’s still young in terms of development and technology. But, the fanboys around here like to bash anything that relates to Microsoft.

    • Raian K.

      ” Similar architecture” the Xbox 360 and One don’t share anything in common besides the title Xbox LOL. They are vastly different and the Xbox One is also far more complex to code for than the PS4.

      • Bliss Seeker

        The Xbox One is not far more complex to code for than the PS4. If anything it’s slightly more difficult.

  • doplerradar

    I agree with you about how you view the internet. People ask for things and complain when they get it. It is like when people unbundled Kinect or brought a couple games to PC. It is one of the reasons why I am not sure how I would feel about the possibility (unlikely though) that the Master Chief Collection will come to PC. There are plenty of people who ask for it but there would be others who want it just to troll and say it is a “sign of weakness”.

    • demfax

      It’s more that some people don’t understand a jump from 720p or 900p to 1080p is typically not a free lunch. There’s usually a framerate penalty associated with going up in resolution.

      Some people were under the wrong notion that as soon as devs better utilized ESRAM, there would be a jump from 720 or 900 to 1080 with no other penalties.

  • Jacks Hit

    Yeah right.

  • DuckNation

    Says he doesn’t care about resolution…. couple days later is crapping over a game not being 1080p

    • doplerradar

      You are assuming that it was Spencer that said it “was unacceptable”. Truth is that we don’t know who said it. It easily couldn’t have been Spencer.

  • sawao_yama

    Except 900p runs at 60fps and 1080p dips lower than 50. I would rather stick with 60fps then lower.

    • jaskdavis

      Rarely dips below 50fps, perfectly acceptable? Or would you like Battlefield 4 to be dropped to 720p with X1 because it dips below 50fps too?

      • John Nemesh

        Actually, it would have been better if BF4 didn’t release AT ALL until it actually worked….just sayin’

      • sawao_yama

        It already is 720 and dips to low 40s. So yes, I would rather have a smooth framerate without input lag. It isn’t rare at all for the xbox one version of Diablo 3 to dip to lower fps. It happens often. 900p runs at a smooth 60fps without any downgrade to visuals, which 1080p suffers.

  • Victor Lavon Richardson

    If we are at the point of being impressed and having Diablo 3 being 1080p 60fps on Xbox One a news worthy topic then I’d really had to see the specs for Gears of War Trilogy Remastered especially Gears 2-3.

  • albatrosMyster

    This is funny, he got caught red handed saying 900p was “unacceptable” for Diablo 3… oh well.

    We will never get to be in these meetings between platform owners and third party studios.

    • demfax

      Phil Spencer probably didn’t say that himself. The Blizz dev didn’t attribute it to any source, just “MS”.

  • Gaikai

    This guy is so funny, first he say that resolution doesn’t matter and framerate is more important then he goes and forces blizzard to bump up the resolution even if that means worse framerate.. what?

    • Dan

      Did you even read what he said or could not wait to get here and bash one of the most forward thinking guys in the industry?

      • Sumyung

        Yea but hes lying? Blizzard stated in an interview with Eurogamer that Microsoft told them 900p was “unacceptable” and they needed to increase it. Who are you going to believe? Blizzard or the company that just spent the last 12 months cramming lies down our throats about kinect, DRM, policies, the cloud.. I mean Jesus Christ how much are you going to take before you stand up for yourself?

        Phil Spencer and everyone at Microsoft who work in the Xbox division are lying c**ts.

        End of story.

        • Giuseppe Nelva

          So because one guy says one thing and another says another thing, you automatically believe that one is a liar?

          That’s an interesting point of view to have.

          • Sumyung

            When one of those guys works at blizzard, one of the worlds most respected studios, and the other works at Microsoft who, like I just said, have literally just spent the last year telling us lie after lie after lie (if you deny that they have done that then you simply have not been paying attention…) then yes I assume that the guy who works at Microsoft is the liar.

            Ask yourself this question. What motivation does the guy at blizzard have to tell that lie? And what motivation does the guy at Microsoft have? There’s your answer right there.

          • Giuseppe Nelva

            Actually, since I’m not a rabid fanboy trying on purpose to find fault in people, I can easily see that Spencer has absolutely no motivation to lie here.

            The backlash created by the possibility of Microsoft having pushed blizzard to get the game up to 1080p is minimal, and absolutely ridiculous, so if Spencer didn’t have cause to say what he said, he could have simply avoided responding.

            This without even mentioning that we have what Spencer said first hand, directly from him, while the opposing quote is not direct, and has been reported through another source, so there’s a lot more room for mistakes/misunderstandings/out of context quoting there.

            Oh, by the way, clear cut insults towards developers aren’t very welcome here, and if repeated can lead to a ban. Just thought I’d put this out there, for the record.

          • Ominous Prime

            Developers hate optimizing software so they tend to point fingers as to why they can’t figure out a problem. I’m sure if you follow the development of games, you hear them whine about hardware all of the time. They love cutting edge hardware, so working on something that limits that, they point fingers. Blizzard barely works on any console games, so there is no other motivation than whining. It’s probably not a lie, but nobody knows the context of the conversation that was had. “Unacceptable” may be the term used to describe the attitude of the developer saying they couldn’t accomplish 1080P. Apparently they could with help.

          • Fake_of_Silva

            You have a very dumb unilateral point of view.

          • John Nemesh

            When the two statements are in direct conflict, yes…that would mean someone is lying.

          • Giuseppe Nelva

            or someone has been misquoted, or misinterpreted, and besides that, arbitrarily deciding that Spencer is lying just because is ridiculous.

          • GoldenBay

            Giuseppe you’re a good journalist and you make very good articles that i love to read, i have respect for your work and i visit this site everyday, there is just one thing bothering me. Don’t take this as an insult or offense cause i am not trying to do that in any way or form, you are not forced to protect every Dev out there, they may be wrong and they may actually lie about something, doesn’t mean that you should try to explain what they were trying to say, they could be easily lying about that matter, as of Microsoft they blatantly lied many times and are not so easily to be trusted by many, Phil may be different but still he’s working for the same Company that did all these things.

          • Giuseppe Nelva

            I’m not forced to.

            It’s simple logic that dictates that assuming arbitrarily that spencer is lying is ridiculous.

            And I do tend to follow logic, unlike some others around here.

          • Rewire

            I tend to ignore this site among many others because of the hypocrisy and blind hate for one console or another but id like to say thanks for rising above it and actually putting effort in to your job. I may come back more often if I see more of this. I know I’m just one person and that doesn’t matter one way or another but there are likely more that feel the same.

          • Suliman العمر

            Sony told many lies, I don’t see the same hate.

            Microsoft introduced bullshit DRM then have forsaken it completely to please everyone, they fixed their errors and called it a day. What lies have they told? The Cloud? No one knows what it is capable of, you can either hate on it all you want or wait and see it come to life, if it improved the system some games, great. If it didn’t, it powers Xbox Live and on my end, that is another win.

            Microsoft has done nothing but improve it’s system from the release date, allowed more resources to be used and devs seem to be happy with that, why can’t you? Or is it because you dislike Microsoft so much that whatever they try to do to please people, you turn it against them because it is not your platform of choice?

            Since the release date, the Xbox has released numerous updates to further improve it. They will release external HDD support, .MKV media playback support as well. Let’s be realistic, how many people have asked for that since last gen? 9/10 out of my friends wanted that feature so desperately. They are working hard to give their users a unique experience be it a weaker system or not.

            Tell me one thing. What’s wrong with that? Why do a lot of people choose to blindside Sony and Nintendo’s lies and only focus on Microsoft lately? Didn’t Sony remove OtherOS, promised remoteplay PS3 feature on Vita, Bioshock vita? And many more that has escaped my head, a simple google search will reveal a lot more BS that Sony pulled over the years.

            And before you claim I am a “Fan boy, Xbone, Xdroid” or whatever weird nicknames you can come up with, I own all systems and I am gladly enjoying all of them.

          • GoldenBay

            You on crack? seems like it.
            And you don’t want to be called a fanboy, Pathetic.

          • Suliman العمر

            No, and your rude comment is unnecessary and proves my point even further.

          • GoldenBay

            My rude comment? did anyone ask you for your opinion? that comment was for Giuseppe not for a Xbox shill like you.

          • Suliman العمر

            Lol. And here you go being rude once again. You do know acting that way makes you seem childish. You can’t even write something sensible without referring to idiotic insults. “Microsoft shill” that’s new, did you come up with that?

            The only “shill” here is you, and as it seems, you worship Sony and choose to be blind when it comes to their numerous mistakes. Hate on Microsoft, Nintendo or whatever you choose to hate, it won’t really affect me whatsoever. But you made my point pretty much crystal clear.

            P.S: Try to create better replies than being rude and insults, not for me or anyone else. It’s for your own sake.

          • GoldenBay

            Nah, the term “Fanboy/Shill” is perfect for you, were you living under a stone that you never read or heard about the word “shill” you should actually know about that, cause after all you’re the definition of that word.

            Having said that, you really took sometime and effort to write all that comment about how Microsoft is trying to improve, hahaha you’re making me laugh so hard. You seem like those drones that don’t have a thought of their own, did Microsoft delete all that what you knew to be true, well i am not sorry haha. And this conversation ends here, i have no time and i am not willing to write anymore to someone who thinks that is worth writing and putting all that precious time to protect a Company which he doesn’t even know.

            P.S Put some very cold water to this 5th degree burn. BYE.

          • Suliman العمر

            Thank you for proving it further, insult after insult as it appears, it is the only thing you know. Were you to try to actually make sense and give me one good reason why they are not trying to improve like everybody else, I would’ve taken it in mind, hell, I might be convinced as well. But as I said, being rude is all that you are good at.

            And to be truthful, the term “Shill” or “fanboy” doesn’t really apply to me and never will, I own more PlayStation games then I do on Xbox, actually double the amount to be precise. I go where my games are. Nothing more. And if you bother to even ask, you’ll know for the time being, I am much more active on PS4 and PS3 then my X1 for the time being, enjoying TLoU and FFX HD for a few weeks now.

            Work on your communication skills. Insulting someone will get you nowhere. And your “burn” is hardly even a burn to begin with. If you want the other person to accept your point of view, you have to be sensible and make it crystal clear, insulting them will not get your point of view across. It will make you seem more of a rude imbecile who likes insulting anyone with a different view from yours. As for definitions, I believe you are familiar with the world “Imbecile”, it fits you perfectly. Because as of now, you have yet to prove your point and only using idiotic remarks and idiotic insults without even putting one logical thought into what you write. Does insulting people make you feel better because it washes all your trouble away? Have you nothing better to do than insult people on the internet and calling them shills, fanboys and drones? I believe not. And before you ask me the same question, an insomniac who’s recovering from a depersonilzation disorder, I obviously have nothing better to do at 3 AM. I work, attend my university classes, work more and do a bit of social climbing before returning home at 12 AM. I don’t really like fighting with people, and I most certainly don’t like fighting in the internet too. Were you to read what I posted clearly, you will know exactly what I meant. And were you to even have a tangible point, you could have made it clear without referring to lousy insults.

            P.S: Forgive me if this seemed insulting, for I wish you nothing but the best in your life.

          • GoldenBay

            Bla bla bla, this comment shows me that my words burned You, imbecile or whatever you may call me you’re still a shill, get a life you lifeless prick. Insulting you is the best way to communicate with bottomless people like you, look at your English you’re trying so hard you idiot.

            P.S Shit people like you could never insult me, did you think i would read all that comment you wrote, go back to elementary school, TURD.

          • Suliman العمر

            You’re as hopeless as an idiotic troll. Going back to elementary school? You really did run out of shit to say, it’s okay, I know you’re brain capacity is limited. I don’t have to try hard at all to prove a point or write the way I do, unlike you, I can prove my point without using cheap slang. You lost whatever credibility you have when you started blabbing like a mindless idiot you are. And I do have a life thank you very much. I pretty much proved my point.

            Go back to elementary? Last I checked, you’re the one who needs to learn proper language because it is something you clearly lack. Jackass troll.

          • GoldenBay

            If i ran out of shit, you wouldn’t be having anything to eat!!

          • Bliss Seeker

            Damn you’re patronising.

          • Suliman العمر

            Yes I was, I love patronizing rather than being a brute..

          • Bliss Seeker

            You didn’t have to be either…

          • Suliman العمر

            I chose to be.. And more often than not, I do it unintentionally. As I mentioned before, sometimes I don’t really remember typing the words because of my disorder, whilst it’s mostly gone, it’s still lingering and finds a way back briefly..

          • Bliss Seeker

            Well I’m sorry to hear about your disorder.

          • Rewire

            So you seem just full of insults, have yet to state in what way MS lied, and ignore anything that challenges you to make such a statement by calling them a shill. I would like to know what exactly MS has been lying about out of curiosity as an owner of all three consoles and a gaming PC.

          • Suliman العمر

            I called him out on it, he called me a microsoft shill. The funny thing is, I’ve been playing PS4 more than my Xbox One lately, he lost whatever credibility he has. I asked him kindly to tell me those “Lies”. For I only remember one thing, the DRM and technically speaking, it wasn’t a lie. They fixed the error and moved along. Same goes with Nintendo and it apologized numerously for the false advertisement. So did Sony with the whole OtherOS fiasco and PSN hack.

          • Bliss Seeker

            Sony told many lies, I don’t see the same hate.

            Maybe it’s because you’re on an article about Xbox? Or if you’re generalising, maybe it’s because you’re such a fanboy you refuse too see what’s in front of you, because I’ve seen plenty of hate on both sides.

          • Suliman العمر

            I have yet to see people hate on Sony for their mistakes, I’ve seen fanboys hate for idiotic reasons, mainly because it is not their platform of choice, but not for the mistakes they’ve done. And no, I am not really much of a fanboy. I despise closed mindedness and like to own all sorts of things, from cars to electronics. Pets too!

          • They Call Me Senpai

            “… I have yet to see people hate on Sony for their mistakes”

            The PSN hack, The DriveClub DRM, PlayStation Now prices, etc. If you’ve yet to see people attack Sony for their mistakes, then you really need to open your eyes and stop pretending like the venom is only ever sprayed at Microsoft.

          • Fake_of_Silva

            I’m still waiting for the online petition to lower PS Now prices. And I think people already forget the PSN hack, because sony gave everyone some free candy.

          • NeoTechni

            “I have yet to see people hate on Sony for their mistakes”

            Because you haven’t looked. Like, at all.

          • Suliman العمر

            I’ve looked enough.

          • Somebodyissilent

            Man I hope you remembered to stretch before reaching that hard.

          • Suliman العمر

            Hehe, always stretch before a workout, eh?

          • Drakenkaizer

            What lies other than the DRM? Okay, like Mario would say “Here we goooooo!”:

            1. Halo 5 in 2014.
            2. The power of the Cloud.
            3. Kinect is NECESSARY for the Xbox One.
            4. We are not spying.
            5. Numbers sold to customers (more like withholding information)
            6. Games running on PC’s at E3, and Jimmy Fallon Forza gameplay.
            7. Killer Instinct being Free to Play.

            Those are just a few.

          • doplerradar

            Several of those were never lies. Killer Instinct is free to play. You get one character for free with all modes open. You can buy extra characters individually or buy them in a pack. The cloud is not a lie. Just because a ton of games haven’t used it doesn’t mean it is a lie. It has been used to run AI for Forza and Titanfall and it will be heavily used for the next crackdown to help run destruction in the game. Not telling sales sale numbers isn’t lying. Also Microsoft never said Halo 5 will be out in 2014. They specifically said “Your Halo journey begins on Xbox One in 2014″. Many people picked up on that and realized that Microsoft could be talking about Halo 2 Anniversary when there were rumors coming up about it. By your logic, Sony lied about The Order since it isn’t coming in 2014. Also Sony also does the same thing about showing gameplay on PC.

          • Drakenkaizer

            That is not free to play, that is shareware. You get a piece and have to pay for the rest. I didnt say The cloud, I said THE POWER of the Cloud. They were saying that whatever Titanfall was supposed to be could only be done on the Xbox One because of this. That game can be played on the 360. And about Halo they actually said ” Your NEXT Halo journey begins on Xbox One in 2014″ I mean I played all of them before so my next journey should be the new one right? Technically they are correct if they were referencing the master chief collection anyways, because it is the NEXT game released not the NEXT story told.
            Sony showed games running on PC’s yes, but they didnt say that the game was running on a PS4. They would say running in-engine. But when it says in-game then that was a PS4 running it like Uncharted.

            Phil SPencer went to Jimmy Fallon and sold the Forza game as running on the XBox One. and that sir was a total lie.

          • Suliman العمر

            1): Driveclub was promised as a launch windows title yet it got delayed, doesn’t that count as a lie? And they never said Halo 5 to be specific, they only dictated “Your next halo adventure begins now” and technically speaking that is, Halo MCC is a next halo adventure especially with the fact that Halo 2 multiplayer mode looks amazing imho.

            2) We have yet to know what the cloud has to offer, as of now, Forza 5 uses it for Drivatar A.I. Crackdown is said to be using it even more. You can’t label something that we never seen a proper live demo as a lie.

            3) Technically speaking, that was a pre-drm issue, right? Because before it launched they said you do not need it.

            4) How are they spying? (Real question, don’t flame I would really like to know how they’re spying on Xbox users so I could be more careful).

            5) That’s an error on their behalf, withdrawing information is not cool whatsoever and cannot be dismissed.

            6) Games running on PCs: Weren’t they Devkits? Because I’m pretty sure they were. And there are devkits which use PC’s (Excluding PS4). Original Xbox was a PC in an early devkit. Xbox 360 Alpha kits were PowerMac G5′s, is it not? It will only come natural that an x86 console would have a PC as an early devkit.

            7) Killer Instinct is F2P in some sense. Just as long as you have an XBL subscription. If you want more characters that is, you need to pay for it. Aren’t all F2P games have the same concept more or less?

            Thank you for listing and not actually bashing, I appreciate it. If only most people were like you, we’d be all okay.

          • James

            I love how you assume someone has been misquoted or misinterpreted.

            You know what they say about people who assume, right?

            At the end of the day, all we’ve got to go of is what’s been said and the history of these companies and people.

            And with what’s going on with X1 under performing compared to the PS4 and as a result… Killing their sales, it makes perfect sense what that guy said at Blizzard.

            MS knows that if a game doesn’t perform as well as the PS4 version… People are once again going to buy the PS4 version.

            Hence why MS said it was “unacceptable”.

            I’m not claiming to know this but when you think about it – and what’s been going previously – it makes sense when you think about it…

          • Ominous Prime

            The guy from Blizzard never said Phil Spencer told him it was “unacceptable”, did he? It’s possible both are telling the truth.

          • superkarma

            And Phil never said “I didn’t force”…he said “we didn’t force”. So, he’s saying Microsoft never said what Blizzard said. So one of them has to be lying…

          • Ominous Prime

            John Hight’s quote = “We did find it challenging early on to get it to 1080p. That’s why we made the decision to drop to 900. That’s what we demoed and were showing around E3 time. And Microsoft was just like, ‘This is unacceptable. You need to figure out a way to get a better resolution.’ So we worked with them directly, they gave us a code update to let us get to full 1080p.” He doesn’t say they were “forced” either.

          • superkarma

            Touche — you got me there. Blizzard’s quote sure seems to imply that they were essentially forced to change it, though. But yeah, I see what you’re saying.

          • NeoTechni

            Unacceptable means it was forced, since they wouldn’t accept 900p…

          • doplerradar

            I am not sure if anyone was forced. Here is a possible situation where both MS and Blizzard are telling the truth. Blizzard shows off Diablo 3, Microsoft wanted push the resolution and asked Blizzard to do that. Blizzard said “okay” and Blizzard and Microsoft worked together to make it happen. There is a chance Blizzard was willing to do it (rather than forced like you said) especially if Microsoft was going to help them do it. If Blizzard said “no, we don’t feel comfortable doing that”, that would have been likely to kept it at 900p.

          • Bliss Seeker
          • Ominous Prime

            John Hight – “We did find it challenging early on to get it to 1080p. That’s why we
            made the decision to drop to 900. That’s what we demoed and were showing
            around E3 time. And Microsoft was just like, ‘This is unacceptable. You
            need to figure out a way to get a better resolution.’ So we worked with
            them directly, they gave us a code update to let us get to full 1080p.” <———-Where do you see in that quote that Phil Spencer told him this?

          • cozomel

            What!? Thats a interesting answer. Yes, somebody is lying, stop trying to act all balanced. We can see right through it. You know damn well that resolution has been dogging MS and they are trying to do everything they can to lessen the blow, by lying to us and telling us crap like res dont matter, while at the same time pushing devs to achieve it.

          • Giuseppe Nelva

            There’s no need to “try” to act all balanced. All you need to do to be balanced is not being a bitter fanboy.

            And not assuming that X is lying just because he works for a company is the first step on that direction.

          • cozomel

            Naive, naive, naive and oh so gullible. And a bitter fanboy? And you do know that i own a 360 right? I think the PS4 is a complete and utter letdown, unimpressive, weak, not much going for it yet. But i just also happen to think that the X1 is even worst. And you mistake my take no bullsh*t from either side as bitterness. Oh well, believe what you want. And I dont think Spencer lied because he works for a certain company, i think he lied cuz they have more to gain by lying about it.

          • Giuseppe Nelva

            Spencer has absolutely nothing to gain by telling some dude on twitter that he didn’t force blizzard to get diablo III to 1080p.

            Because aside from some rabid fanboys that go around hunting for ammo with a torchlight and a lens, no one cares about whether Microsoft forced blizzard to get Diablo III to 1080p or not.

            In the grand scheme of things it’s absolutely inconsequential. Spencer could have not responded at all, and no one would have been the wiser.

            I don’t “believe” anyone arbitrarily, but what is obvious here is:

            1: Spencer has no real reason to lie.
            2: Blizzard’s quote is not direct. It’s second hand at best, while Spencer’s is first hand. So while the possibility that Blizzard’s dev may have been misquoted or misinterpreted, or maybe he misquoted or misinterpreted something that has been told to him, that possibility doesn’t exist on the other side.

            It’s really not rocket science.

          • They Call Me Senpai

            “I think the PS4 is a complete and utter letdown, unimpressive, weak, not much going for it yet”

            You must be smoking some high quality stuff.

          • Suliman العمر

            He isn’t. Underclassed, low-powered mid to lowend GPU with an even worse CPU. It is a complete let down to the point a GPU two generations ago can and will out run it in terms of raw power. And an even worse example is the X1 because it’s even weaker. But seeing how you’re a Sony buff, you’ll outright deny it and call it the holy grail of power.

          • Ominous Prime

            Your assuming that it was Phil Spencer that claimed that 900P was “unacceptable”. Phil Spencer states he didn’t say that. Isn’t it possible that someone other than Phil Spencer from Microsoft said that 900P is “unacceptable” to the employee at Blizzard? Isn’t it also possible that this person from Microsoft showed Blizzard how to get the resolution up to 1080P? That would mean nobody is lying, wouldn’t it? Think about it.

          • Suliman العمر

            Don’t try to reason with them.

          • Ominous Prime

            It’s not to try and reason with them. It’s just to put the other side of the coin on here as well. Otherwise it’s just a comment section full of bile.

        • http://ryan.snook.us/ Snook

          The quote says “was just like, ‘This is unacceptable’”. It’s not a direct quote, it was paraphrasing. There is no telling from the article how it transpired.

          • cozomel

            Right, excuses.

        • Bobby Griffin

          Gtfu

        • Ice

          Agreed. Phil Spencer is a douche. I don’t like his business tactics.

        • Gamez Rule

          Agreed. Blizzard’s John Hight, the production director stated …

          (( “We did have 1080p, but we were finding it challenging to keep our frame-rate. Because Diablo’s so much of an action game, we wanted to have a responsive feel – especially with four players. When you get four witch doctors in a room full of demons, that’s probably the worst case scenario for us because we have effects going off everywhere. We want to make sure that it still feels very glassy, very responsive, and that’s why we dropped resolution down on it”.

          “We did find it challenging early on to get it to 1080p. That’s why we made the decision to drop to 900. That’s what we demoed and were showing around E3 time. (( And Microsoft was just like, ‘This is unacceptable. You need to figure out a way to get a better resolution.’ )) So we worked with them directly, they gave us a code update to let us get to full 1080p.” ))

          It was just like when Xbox’s UK marketing director Harvey Eagle stated that the Xbone will not function without Kinect connected. “Kinect does require to be connected to Xbox One in all cases, yes,”. ( So not true ☺ ) he lied as proven by MS themselves with a Kinect less bundle release.

      • cozomel

        I dont care what he said, either he is lying or Blizzard is lying. And i believe Blizzard. Stop being a apologist fanboy.

      • Bliss Seeker
    • demfax

      You’re assuming it was Spencer who told Blizz to get 1080p. That seems unlikely.

    • Looktoofar

      Do you ponies get buttthurt when a Xbox game becomes 1080?
      Does it show you how much the ps4 isn’t as powerful as you think?
      Maybe you guys should stick to playing your indie games

      • They Call Me Senpai

        Seeing as concessions have to be made for the Xbone to reach 1080p in most of its games, it’s not affecting people view of the PS4 in the slightest.

        And yes, most PlayStation fans are very majestic and pony-like. Also, we will stick to playing our imaginative and extremely addictive indie games.

        • JoinTheRest

          imaginative? dude i have a ps4 and the only thing it has is indies lol

      • Bliss Seeker
      • Gaikai

        Chill down, I I’m not trying to flame him or anything I don’t own a next gen console so I don’t really care which is more powerfull, I just find it funny how he contradict himself saying that he doesn’t care about resolution and 1080p isn’t some mythical perfect resolution and that framerate is way more important than resolution then he tells blizzard that 900p [which btw is not that bad compared to 1080p most people won't even be able to tell the difference] is unacceptable and forces them to make the game run at 1080p even if they have to sacriface the framerate and other graphic details.

    • Mike

      you didnt read anything . you just want to troll. do us all a favor and just stop breathing.

  • Axe99

    Not criticising the article as it is a story, but why on earth are people getting so exciting over this? As far as I’ve heard, every version of Diablo III that’s shipped has been a great game (other than the initial teething issues on PC, but they got to beta-test it for everyone else), and even the Eurogamer article noted that the frame rate was still good, even if it wasn’t got a rock-solid 60. It’s not like we’re talking about something being forced into sub-20fps territory for the sake of resolution.

    • Giuseppe Nelva

      Because people love to have things to point finger at.

      Welcome to the internet. Put your feet up and grab some pop corn, because you’re in for a hell of a ride.

      • Axe99

        Oh aye, the emotional mechanics of people making themselves feel better by belittling other. On reflection, I guess we should be happy that people are getting excited over this, it’s a better alternative to racism, sexism, religious persecution and the like. Still, if only we could raise the level of emotional maturity of humanity….

      • John Nemesh

        Only for a few more months, until MS decides to stick a fork in that turkey of a console they released.

  • RealityCheck2013

    I thought the Xbox ONE could only just about do ‘Space Invaders’ in 1080p LoL:D

    • Vious

      well there’s much evidence out that you completely thought wrong, huh?

    • doplerradar

      Stop trolling.

    • Bugdiecat

      nope, just 900p, after you take away kinect.

  • John Nemesh

    Well…either Blizzard is lying or this toolbox is, one of the two…

  • Aquadysseus

    I can’t wait to get stuck into this game on Saturday without giving a damn about this stupid pissing contest. If the games fun who gives a f**k.

    • cozomel

      If you dont care then why comment? Me thinks somebody is full of sh*t.

      • Aquadysseus

        Because I’m excited for the game, moron. Use your brain.

    • doplerradar

      Finally, somebody gets it. I miss the days when nobody cared about resolution. Halo 3 wasn’t even in HD (which is low compared to other games especially other Halo games that later came out) but it didn’t stop it from selling 11 million copies and being a really fun game. As long the game looks great and runs great, who cares.

  • Vious

    this game is not in my line. hope those who get this game enjoy its it.
    game on.

    • cozomel

      Ta ta old boy.

  • superkarma

    We didn’t force any game to ship at 1080p. We work with devs to make the game they want to make on XB1.

    I guess Blizzard lied about Microsoft saying…

    This is unacceptable. You need to figure out a way to get a better resolution

    Sorry, but I’m more inclined to believe Blizzard over Phil. Phil has already lied to the public in the past. The most recent example (that I can think of) is him saying GWG is “fundamentally different” than PS+, because you get to keep your games. About a month later, GWG changes its policy to reflect PS+ model.

    Keep your usual PR spin, Phil. I’m not believing any of it. It’s cool you guys got a last gen game to hit 1080p though.

    • Vious

      yes he did say that and he wasn’t lying about GWG at the time and I believe if you’d take those glasses off you’d see.
      at the time of the statement GWG wasn’t out of the xbox one yet and he was making reference to the xbox 360 version of the service which is actually fundamentally different from ps+.
      he did say in that same interview that he’s looking at the ps+ policy
      -
      a month later he changed to a ps+ type policy as they would be able to get more modern game on the service isn’t of older games.

      • superkarma

        I already proved you wrong with that laughable argument when you tried to defend him months ago. I don’t feel like digging up the actual link/interview to prove you wrong right now. Maybe I will later tonight when I have more free time. Unlike you, I don’t have “glasses” on to skew my argument. I read the interview in its entirety. There’s nothing to spin. He said exactly what I pointed out. I suggest you take your own glasses off accept these simple facts.

        Anyways, he was referring to GWG as a whole. Stop attempting to spin it to mean the 360 version or saying he just meant bringing more modern games. That “fundamentally different” quote was a completely separate talking point than the game lineup talking point.

        Nice try, though.

        • Vious

          he was referring to GWG as a whole which wasn’t available on xbox one yet at the time, correct?

          • superkarma

            Lol, so that’s your new argument? If so, it’s even more laughable then your failed original argument. They obviously had plans to bring GWG to the X1 at the time he said that.

            If I remember correctly, he said it about 1 month before the first GWG game hit the X1. I fail to understand the idiotic point you’re trying to make here. Just because GWG wasn’t out on the X1, he wasn’t talking about it? Hmm, it’s strange how there was absolutely no mention of the 360 in the interview (as far as I remember) where he said it was fundamentally different.

          • Vious

            the “fundamental” difference he was talking about is that you get to keep your free games with GWG whether you are still subscribed to the service or not.
            and yes, THAT is a fundamental difference between the two services. that’s not something you can deny.

          • superkarma

            I get to keep my PS+ games as well. What’s your point? They’re useless unless I’m still a subscriber, just like X1 GWG games are useless without a subscription. So yeah…there’s nothing fundamentally different about those aspects of the services.

          • Vious

            you get to keep ps+ games even if you unsubscribe? this is the first time I’ve ever heard this.
            - guy once again. it’s clear he was making reference to the xbox360 GWG as you get to keep the games you download.
            and once again: there were no xbox one version of the service at the time and it is unlike (not to say it hasn’t been done before) AAA devs, system devs, hardware devs, policy makers to talk much about games/hardware/policies before they are ready or want to talk about them.
            -
            so for you to sit there and acting like that is just ridiculous on your part. and NO you do not get to keep your ps+ downloaded games if you are no subscribed. and NO he wasn’t talking about the xbox version as there were no xbox version at the time. the only service that was policy that was out at the time was GWG for the 360 which YES you do get to keep your games downloaded EVEN if you are not subscribed.
            THAT is the fundamental difference.

          • superkarma

            Yes, you keep your PS+ games even if you unsubscribe. It’s been that way forever. Like I said, you can’t play them, obviously, unless you’re a subscriber…but they don’t just magically vanish from your console once your subscription ends. Your ignorance about this isn’t all that surprising, since you seemingly have no clue about anything Playstation.

            Also, it’s not clear he was making reference to the 360 GWG, considering the 360 wasn’t even mentioned. It’s only clear to delusional fanboys such as yourself who feel the need to defend him at all costs. He screwed up. He opened his mouth too soon. Accept that and move on. Trying to defend it is just embarrassing at this point.

          • Vious

            as I said anyone with even a lick of common sense should be able to deduce it on their own.

            also, you not having access the games is the same thing as not having it because you can’t play it.

            - oh just like the other day when you tried to say because the general xbox population doesn’t have the screen capture then to you it xbox doesn’t have it, even though my OP was that the feature was IN the system.

            - now here on the flip side you’re trying to say you still consider yourself as having the games even though you CAN’T access them. l

            maybe I should C/P this below

            then you DONT have them. you can’t play them, they’re just there as data you can’t access which is the same as NOT having it. correct?
            -
            you’ve reached a low point now man. you’ve backed your own self in a stupid corner.

            quick edit right after post: lol i’ll just leave you to continue this on your own. you’re weak.

          • superkarma

            Refer to my above reply to you. I’m waiting for you to prove me wrong about your laughable 360 argument. I’m expecting you to start backpedaling, though. So which one will you do?

          • Vious

            here’s some logic thinking for you
            he didn’t say xbox one either. however xbox one didn’t have a GWG service yet, therefore he could only be making reference to the system(s) that actually have the service = logical thinking = common sense.
            -
            i’m done.

          • superkarma

            Lol, so…you’re going go with the backpedaling tactic? I’m so shocked. I’m giving you the perfect opportunity to try to prove me wrong here and you’re not doing it? I wonder why.

          • Vious

            I dont’ see how what I’ve said above is any different from what I’ve been saying thus far. i’m not backpedaling on anything.
            this argument is just solidifying the fact that you fail at logical thinking.
            1) you claim he was talking about GWG on xbox one, even though x1 didn’t have a GWG service at the time = fail
            2) you then claim that you still have the games on ps+ even if your subscription lapses even though you can’t play them. which is the same as not having them = fail
            3) you’re trying to use stupid arguments which fail to back up your stance = fail
            4) you’re trying to say that i’m backpedalling even though I’ve said nothing different from what I’ve been saying all this time = fail
            -
            sigh, you’re pretty laughable today.

          • superkarma

            I thought you were done?

            Anyways, you still have failed to prove me wrong about him referring to the 360. According to you, it’s “logical thinking” and it was “clear” he was talking about the 360. I then asked you to point out how it was clear and the only thing you have to retort is that GWG wasn’t on the X1 at the time. That doesn’t make any sense. Just because GWG wasn’t on the X1 at the time doesn’t mean he can’t refer to its future plans.

            You’re trying too hard. You got backed into a corner trying to call me out on something I embarrassed you on months ago…and you failed again. Better luck next time, I suppose.

          • Bugdiecat

            I wish he was done, but he never is.

          • Bugdiecat

            he’s got his 360 helmet on and keeps running into that same wall. lol.

          • Aquadysseus

            How do you do that thing with the blue line?

          • Bugdiecat

            you don’t want to know.

          • Aquadysseus

            And why is that?

          • Suliman العمر

            No you don’t. You can’t access them without PS+.

          • superkarma

            Pretty sure I said they’re useless without PS+. Of course you can’t access them, but you still keep them. They don’t magically vanish from your console.

          • Vious

            then you DONT have them. you can’t play them, they’re just there as data you can’t access which is the same as NOT having it. correct?
            -
            you’ve reached a low point now man. you’ve backed your own self in a stupid corner.

          • superkarma

            Can you play X1 GWG games without a subscription? No, you can not. So please, tell me what’s the difference?

          • Vious

            you are talking about GWG on X1 (which wasn’t launched when he made the statement, therefore any sense person even with a lick of common sense can deduce that he was making reference to 360 WGW). therefore he didn’t lie about anything unlike your OP would want people to believe.
            -
            this is pretty ridiculous on your part. you can keep trying to make that stupid argument but it isn’t working.
            i’ll leave you to reflect on that.

          • superkarma

            For the last time, he was not talking about 360 GWG. Please, google the entire interview and point out where in it the 360 is mentioned when talking about the fundamental difference.

            According to you, it’s clear he wasn’t talking about GWG for the X1, because the service wasn’t out yet for the X1. But doesn’t that mess with your point that he was talking about bringing more modern games to X1 GWG? You can’t have it both ways. Pick which laughable argument you want to stick with and embarrass yourself.

            Like I said, go read the entire interview and point out where he makes it clear he’s talking about the 360. Unlike you, I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong. So please, go right ahead and try to prove me wrong.

          • bardock5151

            Did he refer to GWG for X1 when talking about keeping the licence for the game? If you remove those ps+ games from your hard drive can you re download them after you’ve subscribed again?

          • superkarma

            He didn’t specifically mention the X1, but that’s my point here. He wasn’t talking about any one specific console. He was talking about the service as a whole in general. If he was only referring to the 360, then that would mean he only plans to bring newer/more modern games to the 360 GWG.

            And yes, as long as you’ve added the PS+ game to your download queue (while you’re a PS+ sub, of course) it’s linked to your account forever. Sony reiterated that around the PS4 launch, saying those who weren’t getting a PS4 right away could still get PS4 PS+ games by simply adding it to their queue from the website/app. So when they did eventually get the PS4, they would have access to those PS+ games.

          • Bugdiecat

            he doesn’t get it, as usual.

      • Bugdiecat

        still waiting on those modern games.

    • doplerradar

      To be fair, they didn’t really force Blizzard to do it. Microsoft asked Blizzard for 1080p and worked with them to make it happen. It is not like MS threatened Blizzard. Phil Spencer seems like a honest guy. He says he wants to beat Sony, but at the same time he doesn’t want his PS4 to collect dust. He is usually very open like he was about Rise of the Tomb Raider exclusivity.

      • superkarma

        He was open about Tomb Raider? If he was open about Tomb Raider, he would use the terminology Sony has decided to start doing and say “first on”, instead of “exclusive”. He purposely announced it as an exclusive, because he wants it to be associated with Xbox. Yes, he was finally open about Tomb Raider after the internet blew up. Too little, too late, though. They knew exactly what they were doing when they announced it as an “exclusive”. It was a calculated decision, not a screw up.

        Don’t get me wrong, I generally like Phil. The Xbox brand/division is much better off with him at the helm. But he’s far from being perfect. He has his flaws just like everyone else. I don’t see why Blizzard would lie about this situation. I just personally don’t see it. I’d side with them over Phil, at least in this scenario.

    • Mike C

      GwG depends which system you have, so he is right on both accounts.

  • cozomel

    “It’s pretty funny to see how things work in the gaming industry: when
    people don’t get something, they often demand it. When they get it, they
    still find room for criticism.”

    Wait, what!? The only reason why people are criticising it because according the all the fanboys and Phil Spencer claim that resolutio doesnt matter as much as framerates, then we find out from Blizzard, that MS was telling them that the game running at 900p was unacceptable. And just exposes their bullsh*t (both the fanboys and the companies).

    “Microsoft has been target of a lot of
    flak for the fact that many Xbox One games don’t reach a 1080p
    resolution, and now that Diablo III has touched that “magic
    number” on Microsoft’s new console”

    1080p is not some magical number like all you dumb and phony fanboys claim, it is the believed minimum for this gen. Before either side knew what the new systems specs were going to be, both sides kept saying that 1080p/60fps should be the bare minimum spec for this gen. And i agree, as 1080p/60fps is not even really impressive standard by today’s standards. So both I and most of the community thought it should be the bare minimum. So when it became apparent that the X1 was going to struggle to achieve it, of course the fanboys are going to start talking sh*t about it. Now the phoniness is when both sides excuse lower than 1080p on their games. Especially the Xbots who now pretend now to not care about res (cough, bullsh*t!).

    “some are criticizing the company for
    somehow “forcing” Blizzard to do it.”

    What!? What do mean “somehow forcing Blizzard”? Blizzard themselves said that MS told them that, that is unacceptable (on their weak hardware that strugglees to do 1080p).

    “We didn’t force any game to ship at 1080p. We work with devs to make the game they want to make on XB1.”

    PR lie!

    • ak33715

      “Before either side knew what the new systems specs were going to be, both sides kept saying that 1080p/60fps should be the bare minimum spec for this gen.”

      Fanboys said that or Sony and Microsoft?

      • cozomel

        The fanboys. MS and Sony never said a word.

    • Suliman العمر

      1080p bare minimum? On low-end hardware? I’m sure a couple of years from now, we’ll see most games work at below 1080p, hell, some games shipped on X1 and PS are already running below 1080p, if this is not a bad sign, then fanboys should open up your eyes a little.

  • Ominous Prime

    Developers are so whiny.

    • Vious

      I think the whiny ones are gamers.

      • Aquadysseus

        Hi

        • Vious

          sup

      • Ominous Prime

        I can speak as a developer because I am one. Are you speaking for gamers?

        • Bugdiecat

          no he doesn’t, he only has a xbone.

      • Spoonyrogdrumps

        Consumers are whiny, gamers just have fun.

    • Spoonyrogdrumps

      Whiny in what way. If it means they want the proper tools that works with what they know then I don’t blame them, as far as the animators artists etc. You know the real talent behind the great games that are made.

      • Ominous Prime

        Developers have an idea for a game, the publisher gives them a budget to build the game and what platforms to build the game for. The developer then goes through the production process. If there is multiple platforms, the developer typically will choose the most familiar platform to the team to build first and then port it to the others. If they usually build for PC, then consoles are a pain in the butt because they have to basically nerf what the game originally was. That’s where optimization comes in. Developers hate this part because now they’re in unfamiliar territory and having to pick and choose what stays or goes while still keeping the game as close to the original idea. That’s where the whining begins. Developers are aware of the hardware they’re building the games for, and tools get developed over time as problems arise. That’s why so many developers stick to the same game engines. They try to keep building and building on the same game engine as to use tricks they learned from the previous, but all during the process they will whine because its work. When they can’t figure out the problem, its someone else’s fault because they couldn’t solve the problem. Case in point, Microsoft stepped in and showed Blizzard that it was possible to get from 900P to 1080P by assisting them. Now the whining is about the frame rate not being locked at 60FPS because its no longer about the 1080P. Do you see the problem here? They’re never happy working on something that is unfamiliar. The biggest complaints come from those third party developers that had to work on Wii U games without Nintendo support. Since those developers weren’t getting help, I can understand their complaining as information was in a different language and communication was near nonexistent. Blizzard’s complaining sounds more like whining.

        • Spoonyrogdrumps

          Makes sense to me. I can see the point of view from the owner/s of a studio though too, but who am I kidding. No one is happy lol. It’s all about the money.

  • Bobby Griffin

    Gamers are cry babies . Damn who cares about 1080p as long as it’s fun

  • thebanditking

    This guy is a fake, just like all the other MS execs. I’m tired of him getting a free pass just because he was tasked with fixing up their image. He has been there from the start, every bad decision, he was right there agreeing and pushing it through. MS has not seen the light, or changed their ways, people just finally stopped buying their crap and when their bottom line started to hurt they doubled back, followed the competition and put the bean counters ears to the ground so they could say what we want to hear.

    • Volpejr

      you’re an angry little person aren’t you.

      • thebanditking

        I have an opinion, and I stated it. Don’t like it? Get over it, its the internet. Besides I couldn’t care less, what I said was reality not me being bitter lol.

        • bardock5151

          So how does opinion go from being an opinion like you said and magically change to reality? My opinion I that your bitter, in my next post ill state it as reality.

  • Jecht_Sin

    I’d say this is ridiculous. The game was already developed and tested to run at 900p60fps with a stable frame rate. They (whoever decided it) wanted to bump the resolution to full HD, inevitably losing on performances? Just make an option for the XB1. Problem fixed.

    • Vious

      in the 900p@60fps the xbox dropped to about 58fps
      in the 1080p@60fps the xbox dropped to about 55fps
      that’s a 3 frame difference which in reality no one would notice while playing the game.
      however, i’m sure anyone would notice a drop from 60fps to 44fps on the ps4.
      -
      don’t make the frame difference such a big deal. a 3 frame difference is not that much of a drop in performance.

      • demfax

        They only tested the very start of D3. Later parts of D3 are more demanding (screen flooded with enemies and effects going off) and probably drops to 40 on Xbox at 1080p.

      • Bugdiecat

        what source states the ps4 has a drop of 44fps?

        • Spoonyrogdrumps

          He likes to use sources that don’t exist. lol

          • Bugdiecat

            I think he wears a special helmet when typing nonsense.

        • Vious

          digital foundry
          here’s a screen cap

          • Bugdiecat

            There’s a day one patch for that if you bothered to read the article on eurogamer, but as usual you didn’t.

            These 3 paragraphs are interesting.

            “Xbox One saw this 1080p patch released yesterday, allowing us to bring you this quick update. We were initially disappointed to see that while the PS4 version was also subject to a new patch, the same dual frame-rate issue was still in effect, albeit to a lesser degree. However, upon testing, the PS4 discretely updated again to C2.0.9.26396 later that day, with the patch notes listing “improved gameplay performance throughout title” – and yes, a quick test in the problem area outside the New Tristram gates reveals the issue has been resolved. Further testing still needs to be carried out in the game’s more packed areas, but so far, the PS4′s render-side stuttering looks to be fully fixed.”

            “The cause and effect is fairly straightforward. In areas with more enemies and effects – like the Tristram gates battle, or chaotic Act Two overground encounters – we now see frame-rates drop from the locked 60fps seen at 900p to the low 50s. In short, while Blizzard closes the gap between Xbox One and PlayStation 4 in terms of image quality, there are now performance issues that creep in at the game’s extremes while at 1080p. They’re not game-breaking, and many players may not even notice – but it’s clear that a 44 per cent boost to resolution doesn’t come for free: in the same scenarios, the 900p version proved smoother.”

            “As we reported last week, Diablo 3 running at 900p on Xbox One may not boast the same, granular level of sharpness as its PS4 counterpart, but the difference is very subtle. It’s a difficult one to call given that the patched Xbox One frame-rate dips don’t make Diablo 3 any less enjoyable either. But for a game of Diablo 3′s action-focused design – and having played both iterations – we would probably take the locked 60fps at 900p over the less consistent 1080p, given the choice.”

            so the xbone should have stayed at 900p according to them. Isn’t that interesting. All that freed up kinect “power” still isn’t enough.

          • Spoonyrogdrumps
        • Vious

          here

      • Jecht_Sin

        As usual you post without having read the articles in full:

        However, upon testing, the PS4 discretely updated again to C2.0.9.26396 later that day, with the patch notes listing “improved gameplay performance throughout title” – and yes, a quick test in the problem area outside the New Tristram gates reveals the issue has been resolved. Further testing still needs to be carried out in the game’s more packed areas, but so far, the PS4′s render-side stuttering looks to be fully fixed.

        Then you wonder why people often picks on you. You are full of crap.

  • CEO Kaz Hirai

    Hello.Are you CEO Blizzard? I am dude Phil Spencer.I want a game with 1080p and 60fps please.Do you have for Xbox One?
    Blizzard: We have the quality for PlayStation1 too.But for XB1 sorry

    • Vious

      your comments usually makes sense in a funny hilarious way. but this time around i’m not sure whats going on with you…i’ll just choke it up and say you’re drunk.

  • Craig Sloan

    resolution and framerate arguments are so tedious. Sure it’s nice to have them be 1080p 60fps on a console, But it’s not the be all and end all if the game doesn’t reach that. Gameplay is more important, wealth of content is important and it working day one is important. If you care so much for RES and FR build or buy a PC.

    • doplerradar

      I agree with everything you said. Some people these days act like just because one game on a system runs at 1080p and the other at 720p, the one at 720p will look completely different and look like crap compared to the 1080p version. The reality is that they actually look very alike. They forget that resolution is just a small piece when it comes to graphics. Things like lighting and textures are so much more important than resolution. As long as the game both looks and runs great, people shouldn’t worry about resolution. I wish we could go back to the good days when nobody cared about resolution. There were plenty of games that varied in resolution last gen, but nobody cared.

  • Jessie Bristol

    I think with Diablo III it was the right call to have be at 1080p. If it does drop frames it isn’t noticeable (I am currently playing through it on Xbox One right now). According to Digital Foundry it only drops to the mid-low 50′s during intense action. And like I said, if it has dropped frames then I haven’t noticed. So Microsoft helping Blizzard get the game to 1080p with very slight frame drops was worth it to me.

  • eternal_napalm

    When can we look forward to Sunset Overdrive specs, Philip? Bahaha!

  • Spoonyrogdrumps

    What Phil is really saying: “What we are doing is in my right hand. Pay no attention to my left”.

  • Spoonyrogdrumps

    Vious, just stop being a baby. Making noise don’t know what to do. Xbox isn’t as good as Playstation. Don’t try and defend it. It’s sad. Just deal with it. You won’t though because you will most likely respond to this in some manner.

    • Negi Springfield

      It`s kinda sad a couple of days ago that he said when SONY entered the competition , They stole alot of developers from Nintendo , When it was the developers shifting to PlayStation.

      Also , He blames SONY for SEGA`s downfall , LOL !

      • Spoonyrogdrumps

        Yeah I knew he did that. It’s really sad. I really liked the Sega consoles but it was Sega’s own fault. Sony came in with a product that was 100 dollars cheaper and as a result devs flocked to them because people were buying it. If Sega wanted to stay in the game they should have been more efficient.

  • Spoonyrogdrumps

    Blizzard is used to working with PC so I don’t blame them. Other devs will be able to work better with it and first party studios will work the best with it and that goes for any console. Granted PS4 is a little easier.

  • Vious

    hey @spoonyrogdrumps:disqus
    just like I said before the ps4 running at 1080p@44fps
    xbox 900p@60fps
    xbox 1080p update the game runs at 1080p@55

    • Spoonyrogdrumps

      Nice try. There was a bug that Blizzard had to fix. I think you should retire. You just look bad.

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-diablo-3-performance-analysis

      http://youtu.be/V-UmoGI_5yw

      • Bugdiecat

        Just explained that to him with small words below, hopefully he’ll understand.

      • Vious

        the bug was the dual render not that frame drop

        • Spoonyrogdrumps

          Try reading the article again and going to the Blizzard forums. The bug was causing a problem with the dual render but that affects the fps. There is no drop now. Now if only the Xbox One could have a sharper image. It’s been said that the game on PS4 has a sharper image. You are fishing for anything to bash the PS4 but it just goes to show that you know nothing which is pretty understandable for an Xbot.

    • superkarma

      How do you constantly manage to embarrass yourself? The article where you grabbed that image from says right at the top of it that the drop in fps was due to a bug, which has seemingly been fixed with a day 1 patch. I mean, cmon…if you’re going to use an article as a source for your argument, at least read the damn thing first.

      • Vious

        again like I told @spoonyrogdrumps:disqus the bug was dual render not the frame drop

        • superkarma

          And that bug was the cause of the frame drop…derp.

          • Bugdiecat

            Poor Vious, he’s trying so hard. I think he needs a nap.

        • Spoonyrogdrumps

          The bug affects both moron.

    • You are flat out wrong

      Old news, Vious. We’re waiting to see how it performs with the day one patch applied.

      • Vious

        same here waiting on that too from DF. they said they had the patch but there’s still dual render bugs in some parts.

        • superkarma

          Wrong…again. You seriously need to read these articles that you get your information from.

          http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-diablo-3-xbox-one-1080p-patch-performance-analysis

          We were initially disappointed to see that while the PS4 version was also subject to a new patch, the same dual frame-rate issue was still in effect, albeit to a lesser degree. However, upon testing, the PS4 discretely updated again to C2.0.9.26396 later that day, with the patch notes listing “improved gameplay performance throughout title” – and yes, a quick test in the problem area outside the New Tristram gates reveals the issue has been resolved. Further testing still needs to be carried out in the game’s more packed areas, but so far, the PS4′s render-side stuttering looks to be fully fixed.

        • Spoonyrogdrumps

          Yeah you’re waiting for the end.

    • Jecht_Sin

      That was before patches, you bleeding troll! For instance the screenshot on the right is at 900p. Can you dig it?! Bloody hell, you’re so annoying.

  • Lennox

    The way Guiseppe wrote this is funny. “Good partnership, won’t dictate frame rate or resolution.” Makes me think Phil had to roll his sleeves up and start duking it out with the Blizzard devs lol. Its good that he’s pushing this cause some gamers want it. Even if that does mean sacrificing 5 fps on occasion lol.

  • Spoonyrogdrumps

    Watch out. The gap in the door…

    it’s a separate reality.

    The only me is me.

    Are you sure the only you is you?

  • You are flat out wrong

    So he’s lying about this or he’s lying about the other thing. Either way, not a good look.

  • Stranger On The Road

    Platform holders helping the developer to make the game look better on their platform isn’t something new and it is welcomed by the developers since they get free expertise on the platform.

    Example is when Sony sent a team to Sega to fix Bayonetta,/i> after Sega released a bad port for the PS3. And then you nVidia’s GameWorks that make the game look better on their cards.

    • superkarma

      I’m perfectly fine with them making sure the game ships at the best possible way for their respective platforms. What bugs me is the fact the guy from Blizzard makes it seem like Microsoft didn’t give them much of a choice.

      Maybe that’s just the way I took it from his quote. Maybe Blizzard just wasn’t all that familiar with the X1 hardware at the time, so they weren’t comfortable going any further and risking a delay. I don’t know. But the quote from Blizzard and then the subsequent quote from Phil make the whole thing seem sketchy to me.

      Either way, it’s obviously a good thing that they got it up to 1080p. It doesn’t seem like performance took a game-breaking hit, so there’s no problem with that. Only fanboys cling onto the argument that the X1 isn’t capable of 1080p. Others knew all along it was obviously capable of that. The blame is just as much (maybe more) on the developers as it is on the platform holders. I just find this situation to be sketchy. Blizzard says one thing, then Phil comes out and say no, no, no…it most certainly wasn’t like that.

      • Stranger On The Road

        I believe you are referring to the interview on EuroGamer? If yes, then I didn’t view that quote negatively, but as a business partner saying: our product isn’t giving you what you want? I can’t have that, I’m sending people over to your office to help out.

        I saw the quote as saying that M$ is pro-active in the regards to supporting 3rd parties and improving the quality of games on their platform.

        It is just the matter of perspective ;-)

        • superkarma

          Yeah, the Eurogamer interview — and yeah, that’s definitely a possibility as well. I could very well be wrong with my interpretation. I have no problem being wrong. It’s just the way it came across to me, I guess.

          Add in the way Phil was two-faced in his Tomb Raider interview, I’m just losing more and more respect for the guy. He’s good for the Xbox brand and he’s exactly who they need in that position, but he’s far from being the innocent guy some make him out to be. While the Tomb Raider deal doesn’t affect me personally (I don’t play TR games) it’s just one more example of Phil not showing me why I should trust him as a figure head.

          Like you said, though, it’s all a matter of perspective. On top of that, at the end of the day, it’s really not all that important. :)

  • worryingrash

    I work in an industry where I regularly purchase products that have been created by someone else – and it’s pretty normal to go back to them and say that something is unacceptable with their product if that is, indeed, the case.

    Why should I sell something to my customers, if I feel that my supplier has provided me with something sub-standard – when I know can be improved with a little more effort and/or help from me? My customers expect more of me – so I expect more of my suppliers.

    People seem to forget that Microsoft and the developers are doing this professionally, for money – it’s not a collaborative hobby where everyone is doing it for the love of gaming (although you’d hope all participants would have some of this as well).

  • Almighty-Koz

    reading some of the comments one thing seems to be missing, this game is not a new game at all, and should have had no problem running at 1080p, hell i play it on a laptop thats 4 years old and was only 400$ at the time without a problem.

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