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Sony Claims 78% Market Share for PS4 and PS3 in Japan; PS Vita 2000 Selling 1.6 Times Faster

by on September 1, 2014 6:22 AM 114

During the pre-Tokyo Game Show press conference held this morning, Sony Computer Entertainment Japan and Asia President Atsushi Morita gave some interesting information about the performance of PlayStation consoles in Japan.

According to Morita, PlayStation home consoles (PS4 and PS3 combined) claim the 78% of the market share in the home segment in Japan.

On the other hand, since the launch of the PS Vita 2000 the penetration of the hardware in the localmarket has sped up by 1.6 times. Morita-san also mentioned that Software sales are seeing a similar improvement as well.

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  • Gaikai

    Looks like the PS4 hype train isn’t stopping anytime soon

    • Preston queener

      its more like a hype battleship now lol

  • Orichalon Hades

    well, that’s true if they combined PS4 and PS3 together and face it up against Xbox 360 + 1 and the Wii U.

    only if they combined the two tho.

    • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

      X360 aint helping. The Wii U is what putselling both despite being ignored by Japanese developers

  • demfax

    The rumors of Playstation’s death in Japan are greatly exaggerated.

    • garf02

      to bad they conveniently add ps3 numbers but “forogot” to add wii market share,

      • Aiddon

        kinda like how the combined PSP numbers with the Vita’s to make it seem like the Vita wasn’t a huge flop.

        • garf02

          numbers bundling is a regular sony practice, smart but scumy as the same time

          imagine if Nintendo bundlde Wii and wiiU sales

          • 0P-Tigrex

            Both and Sony and MS bundle numbers. Don’t act like such a twat

          • Aiddon

            your point being…? Besides, he didn’t even mention MS.

          • 0P-Tigrex

            My point is companies bundle numbers all the time what’s so terrible about it? And it’s a Playstation Conference! Why would they bring up the Wii marketshare?

          • BornFlunky

            They’d bring up the Wii market share so they weren’t borderline falsifying their numbers so they looked higher.

            You’re basically saying that it’s perfectly okay for Sony to blatantly lie.

          • BornFlunky

            “It’s a Playstation Conference! Why would they bring up the Wii marketshare?”

            Well shit, you’re absolutely right! They should only bring up PlayStation! That way, they’ll have 100% of the marketshare and that won’t look off at all. After all, it’s their conference, and other products never existed! ‘Cause that’s how “economics” work! Thank you for helping me see the light.

          • 0P-Tigrex

            You’re truly an idiot. That’s like the same as presenting XBOX games at a PLAYSTATION conference. Because if they didn’t show the XBOX games..then the XBOX games never existed!

            They said they had 78% marketshare.. umm.. hey man.. maybe that remaining marketshare is where Nintendo and Microsoft’s home console marketshare come in.. ever thought of that?? I don’t think they need to put up individual numbers for each platform at their conference. lmao. it’s THEIR conference. I don’t like your sarcastic attitude to a very logical statement. It makes you look like a fool.

            I don’t know if you if you read, or even understood your own comment before you pressed “post as BornFlunky”…

          • BornFlunky

            Apparently you’re having a hard time translating the sarcasm. Allow me.

            They are presenting national marketshare of home consoles (albiet during a very specific timeline which is one of the few spans of time in the last 8 years their marketshare has been high in Japan). Let me repeat that: -National- marketshare of -home consoles.- Not Sony consoles. All of them.

            You think I’m asking for individual numbers? I’m asking for comprehensive statistics, not those that have been picked and chosen. They’re only showing the last half year of marketshare there, bud. And they’re trying to spin the idea that the PS3 is still relevant into a good thing, when it just means they can’t find developers to jump wholesale onto the next gen cycle.

            They’re prettying up their numbers and situation in a way that’s almost entirely contradictory into reality, because investors in Japan are getting antsy, if not already jumping ship. The point of a press conference? Maybe, but considering there have been far more “down to earth” showcases and conferences in recent years (even by Sony themselves just two years ago!), anyone who’s using their brain instead of their wallet for two seconds, I believe, can see how underhanded this whole thing is.

          • garf02

            meanwhile Nintendo brakes down even, 3DS, 3DS and 3DSXL

          • 0P-Tigrex

            Good for Nintendo man. Are they home consoles Or handhelds? Btw.. Wii U’s current total numbers are shit for how long it’s been available on the market. Git gud.

          • garf02

            since this is japan market lets bring up numbers

          • 0P-Tigrex

            You want a medal? Lol. The Wii U is selling slightly better than the Ps4 in Japan, and why is this I wonder? Maybe because it’s catered to the consumer base. Crazy right? And you’re going to throw stats around when the Ps4 has no current system selling games for it? Lmao. I’ll take you for a Nintendo fanatic. That’s fine, but the Wii U isn’t shit in Japan. It’s a handheld market first, console market second. The Wii U is like a giant handheld.

          • garf02

            >m-my console of loyalty is just doind bad cuase it has no games
            not my problem, Sony choose West > East.

            and yes, Graphics are fun, have another one regarding adoption rates.
            http://puu.sh/bjvVA/dee878c386.png

      • demfax

        Because Wii is a dead console, but PS3 + PS4 are not.

        • Kallumsmarties

          Nah, Nintendo just moved on and discontinued it. It still took over a much bigger percentage of the market. Seems typical for Sony to always add numbers from other consoles.

          • demfax

            PS3 is still active in Japan, selling more than PS4 on some weeks (7-9k), and has many active games in development by Japanese devs.

          • typevu

            PS3 is still active in Australia too.

          • BornFlunky

            Yet, this doesn’t do anything to disprove the fact that, if Sony had bothered to add Wii numbers into their statistic, they’d be getting trounced on that percentage.

            They’re focusing on Japan because it’s one of the big three sectors that they’re actually getting thoroughly outsold on all hardware fronts in.

            And they barely mentioned the Vita because the 3DS is outselling it over ten to one.

            This is a bloated statistic, and that’s ridiculously and shamefully underhanded.

          • Giuseppe Nelva

            “This is a bloated statistic”

            You mean like “because the 3DS is outselling it over ten to one.”

            Your math: you need a new one because yours is broken.

            Your economics aren’t in much better shape, unfortunately. “market share” means a share of the market. The Wii is not on the market, so it does not have a market share.

            It’s a quite easy concept, really.

          • BornFlunky

            Well, let’s see. Latest figures from Nintendo put the 3DS’ congregate sales at about 44 million, world wide, give or take a million>

            Sony’s latest official Vita sales numbers — strangely outdated, which I’m probably going to attribute to said numbers being embarrassingly low for them to announce — are at 4 million.

            So, you’re right! I do need new math.

            It’s actually 11 to 1. Silly me.

            As for the market share, they’re including PS3 sales from years in which the Wii was on sale. So, it continues to be a bloated statistic. Wii production has been discontinued, but that doesn’t “magically erase” its existing market share from its years of sales in Japan.

          • BornFlunky

            Heh. My statistically-supported comments were deleted. Assuming this was you, Mr. Nelva — as you’re the only moderator on this comment section I seem to see — that’s very cute. Depressingly disappointing, but cute all the same.

            I’ll just say what needs to be said again:

            The 3DS is outselling the Vita 11 to 1, according to the latest official numbers from both respective companies. Nintendo’s showing 44 million, and Sony’s showing 4 million. The latter is probably outdated, but it really isn’t my fault that Sony hasn’t released fresher official numbers.

            Sony is including PS3 sales numbers from since launch, including the better part of a decade where it was, in fact, competing directly against the Wii. As such, they are pretending they never had that source of market share competition, and their numbers are skewed. That’s quite an easy concept as well.

            Well, at least, that’s what I (and, judging from the adamant nature of your comment, yourself) gathered, but as I’m not fluent in Japanese — as well as being due to the fact that it’s mentioned nowhere in the article — apparently Sony’s figures are between the months of late February to late August. So, they’re basing their benchpoint right as the PS4 launched, but are still throwing in PS3 numbers.

            Which is not as bad, but still pretty sleazy, quite honestly. Sony’s trying desperately to look good in Japan, because they don’t -actually- look good there, sales-wise.

            Though I suppose deleting my comments is an easier concept than actually listening to the whole truth. If I came off too hard, well, it’s probably worth pointing out that you’re the one who actually threw the first stone, considering you’re basically calling me an idiot three times in your comment. So, I further support my points, and apparently that’s worthy of deletion for… some reason? Eh.

            I’d be calling any company on this kind of thing. But right now, it’s Sony. If you feel like censoring my statistically-backed opinion, well, you have that right, I guess.

          • demfax

            No, it’s pretty obvious fanboys don’t want to admit PS3 is still competitive in Japan with a much larger install base and decent numbers every week.

            Once again handheld numbers have nothing to do with home consoles, it’s desperate and pointless.

          • BornFlunky

            “Dead and buried”?

            Like I said below, you don’t get to magically ignore your previous competition whenever you wish to. You say the PS3 makes sense in the “current market,” when they’re involving numbers from nearly a decade ago. Involve all the numbers, then. Don’t pick and choose.

            You also don’t get to ignore your competition when you’re competing poorly, a la the Vita, which is also mentioned in this article, and therefore worth mention here.

            You’re saying the PS3 has a larger install base than the Wii U. 8 years versus almost 2 years.

            Can I say “no duh” exasperatedly enough?

            Sony is deciding to ignore an entire console that consistently outsold them in the 7th generation so they can make their numbers look big and pretty. That’s an acceptable practice? That’s not the slightest bit underhanded or immoral?

            Say they just imagined their competition didn’t exist (which is what they’re doing now to an extent, but bear with me). Let’s say they call their products “global media centers” or some other made up buzz-phrase. They can now say they own 100% of all market share for global media centers, while ignoring technically synonymous products because they call it something different.

            Frankly, this case is almost as preposterous as that one would be. They are claiming 78% of a market share with their collective decade (between both products, give or take a few months) on the market, compared to a single product that has been on the market for not even two years, while ignoring another that had been on the market for 7.

            So, yes, that is fucked, no matter what sensible way you choose to look at it.

            And the Wii U has been outselling both Sony consoles in Japan. The PS3 and PS4, collectively, sold 8,299 units just last week. The Wii U sold 8,985. Last week? Sony: 13,173. Wii U: 18,161.

            These numbers are all from Japan’s Media Create, so feel free to take a look.

          • BornFlunky

            Well, my comment was made under the assumption that Sony’s numbers were including PS3 sales numbers from a time the Wii was also competing against the PS3. And as such, my problem with these numbers was that they were ignoring competition that was, in fact, on the market at the time they were collecting their data, and as such, their numbers were skewed. As what I say next is mentioned nowhere in the article itself, I’m forced to assume that you also assumed these numbers were from the PS3’s launch date, and if such were the case, my point would still stand.

            That being said, apparently the Japanese text in the image shows they’re actually numbers just from the PS4’s launch date. (Which is still a bit sleazy since they’re not performing well in Japan and threw in a second console to blow up their numbers, but eh, at least it makes sense).

          • demfax

            There are a lot of PS4 owners that own Wii U, and almost no Xbox owners that own a Wii U. There’s a lot of overlap between PS4 and Wii U gamers.

            PS4 is selling in line with the other two active consoles Wii U and PS3, at around 6-9k a week. Wii U has been having a good couple weeks recently in Japan with Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors, good for them.

            Intent to buy PS4 probably increased by a good amount after TGS 2014. They announced a lot of popular Japanese franchises like Gundam, Dragon Quest, Persona, etc.

            PS4 sales will increase as devs move from PS3 to PS4. PS3 is still an active console in Japan, it’s taking longer to fade out. Sony still has a strong overall presence in Japan between PS3, PS4, and Vita. PS4 sold 332k in its first two days on sale in Japan, similar to Wii U.

  • Pigeon

    That’s not really something to boast about when only about 30% of Japanese gamers own home consoles period. I’d like to see the statistics if they compared home consoles against handhelds. The PS3 & PS4 combined barely sell half as much per week as the 3DS alone does.

    • demfax

      Of course handhelds and mobiles are dominating Japan.

    • http://people.ign.com/oskitake Oskitake

      If we add Wii (even if its out of production) , Wii U & 3DS against Vita, PS3 & PS4, we would see than Sony would have around 25~40% at best of the gaming market in Japan. Get real Sony.

  • Jecht_Sin

    Honestly, I hate when they manipulate numbers in that way, mixing oranges with lemons. Add the Wii, even if it is out of production, and you get a quite different share.

    • demfax

      Except PS3 is still a viable market in Japan.

      • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

        yet Wii U outselling PS3 and PS4. 3DS out selling everything.

        • Orichalon Hades

          >Wii U outselling PS3

          where did you get that idea?
          PS3 : 10 Mill+
          Wii U : 1 Mill+

          • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

            Weekly sales SMART

          • Orichalon Hades

            not by much, just last week or so it only sell like 1-1.5k more than PS3+PS4

            and didn’t WiiU just got a major release in japan? erm..Hyrule Warrior was it?

          • http://people.ign.com/oskitake Oskitake

            yup, but it is still selling more (even if its 1k) with a weak library compared to the PS3. It still needs to catch up to the more than 10m of PS3 though….

          • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

            doesn’t matter. It been out selling it for months

          • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

            Wii U is also at 1.9m

          • Orichalon Hades

            and? PS3 is still steamrolling it atm. Quite silly of you to say that Wii U is outselling PS3 even without PS4 combined.

          • Pigeon

            You can check the weekly sales here:

            http://www.m-create.com/ranking/

            I believe it changes every Wednesday.

            This week – Wii U 8.9k, PS3 2.4k. Neither figures are particularly flattering, mind you.

          • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

            Weekly sales say hi

          • http://people.ign.com/oskitake Oskitake

            “outselling”, weekly sells not total. dont mix them up.

          • BornFlunky

            Wii U’s been outselling everything but the 3DS in Japan for about four, five months now.

            The PS3 has had 8 years on the market. Yes, they’ve sold more than the Wii U in Japan. They’ve had an extra half decade, it’s no fuckin’ surprise.

        • Pigeon

          You would certainly hope that the Wii U is outselling an 8 year-old console.

          • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

            getting defensives aren’t ya

          • Pigeon

            What makes you think that?

          • Daniel Jeanbaptiste

            Why didn’t the PS Vita outsel it predecessor early on then

          • Pigeon

            Because there was no support for the thing.

        • demfax

          You must be pretty desperate comparing handhelds to home consoles.

          PS4 sales will pick up as devs move from PS3 to PS4.

      • Kingdom17

        This, I counted as well, and of course the Wii sold its outstanding numbers, but they probably counted the PS3 for this gen as well as it looks better to them and the PS3 is still viable while Wii sales of slowed to a crawl.

    • Aiddon

      that’s what I was gonna say; if you add up the numbers of both 7th and 8th gen hardware (which Sony didn’t), Sony DOESN’T have that big of a market share. At best, they’re around 40%. And if you add in the 3DS and Vita the numbers only get worse. I sweat, if I wanna see stuff spinning I’ll watch Wheel of Fortune

      • Kingdom17

        If they do include last gen they are around 40-48ish, but they still counted it, I’m assuming, as the PS3 is a viable platform still compared to the other last gen consoles, whose sales are virtually nonexistent (X360) or have slowed to a crawl (wii) I would like it though to see only current gen numbers next year when the PS4 really has some titles that would pursued the Japanese audience, I also wonder who the X1 will fare if MS is really going to give Japan a go.

        • Aiddon

          actually it’d be around 42%. If you don’t count the 360. Put in handheld sales with the Vita versus 3DS and it’s around 31%. Sony ain’t exactly emperors over there.

          • Kingdom17

            And I realize that, I didn’t do the exact math but I knew it was a little above 40, wasn’t exactly sure, and I’m actually surprised the Vita is doing that well.

  • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

    While people are overjoyed by this, Nikkei is rejecting Sony. You know… Nikkei…. The stock index of Japan:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-28/sony-seen-as-reject-as-japan-jpx-index-cuts-losing-stocks.html

    Face the facts people. Sony cannot live on the Playstation division alone. How about you tell them to tread lightly on those 4K HD smart TV’s that they keep on producing?

    • They Call Me Senpai

      Always gotta try and rain on Sony’s parade, huh?

      • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

        Face facts my friend. That’s all being asked. Being a fanboy of a Sony console doesn’t change the fact that they’re in a debt quagmire. Have you checked their annual reports for the past 7 years? I do. If you really care about Sony, you should at least look at these. Ignorance ain’t an option.

        • Spoonyrogdrumps

          Here are actual facts:

          http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/13q4_sony.pdf

          Stop going off of old reports.

          • Aiddon

            that is from a month before the one Homer posted.

          • Spoonyrogdrumps

            I don’t know what that is but it’s not accurate. There are only two sources that are accurate. Actual stock market financial reports from the source or Sony’s own financial documents.

          • Aiddon

            You’re right, Sony is much bigger than its problems in Japan. Too bad its problems don’t END at Japan considering how we can’t go more than a few months with hearing how the company is posting another loss or laying people off.

          • Spoonyrogdrumps

            I never said they weren’t having some problems but they are in a much better position globally, The losses are a result of restructuring costs. It happens a lot in business. PC wasn’t being profitable so they had to let it go and they showed losses for a number of years as a result. Read that report I linked. People blow it out of proportion that have no business with it anyway. It’s just a bunch of dumb fanboys that think they are experts in economics and business and love to bring Sony doom. It’s happens the other way around to. One flub from Microsoft and everyone blows it out of proportion.
            What is important is that Sony is becoming more profitable again, and focusing on debt.
            And lets say in another decade Sony ends up going bankrupt because of an economic crash. They would bounce back just like the American car companies.

          • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

            Oh so looking at the fact that Sony’s TV division is being outperformed by the likes of Panasonic, Aiwa and hell even Sharp makes me a Microsoft fanboy. Talking about strawman at its finest.

            And may I remind you that not only their TV sales are down due to getting ahead of the race way ahead, their other divisions such as the Xperia are not doing as well. It’s not hate, it’s all about facing facts. Old reports? So, them in debt and those debts keeps on staking in interest rates is also old report? So you think you can refute Nikkei? You know, the stock market index of Japan, said themselves that Sony is a shame to the index for submitting losses? Come on. Think about this as not being a gamer, but as a consumer.

          • Spoonyrogdrumps

            Their TV sales are up. Those other companies had a good run and Sony did market their TV prices higher but Sony’s TV’s are better. I know Home Theater specialists and a friend of mine works with this tech. Sony’s TV’s are superior compared to other models in the same category. Better, blacks, colors, contrast you name it. You pay for it though. Sony;s lower model TV’s needed more control with cost which they fixed. You can’t count Panasonic Plasma and those aren’t being made anymore anyway. Selling more doesn’t mean always selling better. You get what you pay for. Yes you are going off old info that’s not even accurate. Yes they are turning their debt around. That’s one reason why they got out of the PC business. Also if you’re not aware of it Japan has had some economic problems this past decade. Even worse than America. Their Xperia phones are awesome. As long as they don’t over produce their product for demand they won’t have a problem. You focus on Japan but Sony is a worldwide corporation. Just because you can’t afford it doesn’t mean they suck.

          • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

            “You focus on Japan but Sony is a worldwide corporation”

            That is exactly what Nikkei have told Sony. Have you even read the report, at all? Nikkei is one of the top stock index markets in the world, do you think they are solely operating exclusively on Japan? Of course not, they are trading with the likes of S&P, PSE, Shanghai SE when the opening bell rings.

            Continue to convince yourself that they are turning their debts around. They have trillions to climb and that doesn’t include the interests every month that didn’t paid those debts. Oh, you’re forgetting something, Sony is a multimedia conglomerate and one division alone cannot save them. Not even Sony Playstation.

          • Spoonyrogdrumps

            They are just an index for Japan. If you read the report I listed and have read other reports from Kaz and other Executives in the company, they are handling the debt now. It’s not trillions. You are just pulling stuff from your ass. Read the Sony reports. It shows debts and it’s not in the trillions. I never said one division would save them. You obviously don’t have any concept of economics or business so just stop. You are making yourself look foolish. Especially by putting words in my mouth. Go back to school.

          • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

            I’m sorry but if you cannot accept that the Nikkei 400, the biggest stock market index in Japan is rejecting them as a whole and they have a problem. That’s not my problem. What I see from Nikkei and Sony’s reports alone that they are on a massive debt. Hell, even the Japanese government already exhausted anything to save Sony and banks that lend them money are also tired of them.

            So go ahead and let your “own” facts shine on your horizon. Maybe it’s your impression that Sony Playstation is the best thing that happened to the video game industry since the Magnavox Odyssey. The choice is yours. And I just need school to have a degree, not to learn there. I guess you don’t know anything about the indoctrination that they’re doing inside those four corners that they call as a classroom. :)

            Very well then, if you love Sony, that’s you. But I look at the bigger picture and I can accept it. Adieu.

          • Spoonyrogdrumps

            They will always be in the market in Japan as long as the company exists. Government backed stock is rejected. There is still Topix and other investors. I’m not surprised by the backlash of the market in Japan. It will take time and a few years to turn around. I’m not saying Sony didn’t have problems but it’s no where near doom and gloom.
            When Sony reaches to the point where the American car companies were a few years ago and still bounce back I’m not worried.
            They aren’t my own facts moron. You just need school to have a degree….well sure depends on what you are going to school for.
            Computer technology is the best thing to happen to any video game industry. Without computers tech there wouldn’t be video games. I didn’t go to school to be indoctrinated. Indoctrination is for people that fall for it.

          • Homer Ruglia Beoulve
          • Spoonyrogdrumps

            Companies go in and out of that thing all the time. It’s making more of it than what it really is. It’s also a news interpretation which is hardly ever accurate.

        • They Call Me Senpai

          You sound mad, troll.

      • Kingdom17

        As is, its more like raining on our parade, which ain’t cool.

    • Spoonyrogdrumps

      They are doing fine.

    • Aiddon

      That is kind of the thing; when looking at Sony as a bigger entity they’re a complete and utter mess. I think the big thing is seeing how far their market value has fallen in the past ten years. They’re only worth a sixth of what they were at their peak at best and even with layoffs they’re still posting loss after loss. Not a good place to be.

      • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

        First, they went full throttle with their Bravia TV’s, which is a very bad move considering that their competitors, Samsung, Panasonic and hell even Sharp are overwhelming them in that department, these 3 said companies played it smart to let the LED Smart TV market to ripen first before they move to the 4k tech.

        Second, despite that their movies are blockbuster, they still have debts that needs to be paid and for the past 7 years, the Japanese government via the banks keeps on giving Sony the stimuli that they need to keep themselves afloat, after all they are one of the prides of the Land of the Rising Sun.

        When your country’s stock market index spoke up against your company, it holds water and definitely will tell that company that they have some serious problems. And yet I’m being called as a “Microsoft Xbox One fan.”

        I am in no way an economist, but if I want to understand the industry more, looking at it from the perspective of a gamer isn’t going to cut it. Let’s look at it from the business aspects so we could understand it better. Facts over emotions. That’s what we are supposed to be about.

        • Aiddon

          To think Sony was founded as an electronics company and yet they keep getting destroyed in that market by everyone else. Their movies are faring a little better, but even with that there’s only so much they can do. And with the next Spider-man being delayed I doubt that’s going to help them.

        • GameDev345

          If I remember clearly, the Sony conglomerate doesn’t just rotate and evolve around Japan, In my opinion you are trying to exaggerate Sony’s debt when you actually know very little.

          Of course the PS division won’t only help them(even though it got them out of the red and back into black) but in other parts of the world than Japan, their tvs, cameras, phones and tablets are selling well, they were even awarded best products in Europe not long ago with six of their products

          Blockbuster wise, Amazing Spiderman didn’t start out great but has gained momentum, don’t they have like 2 or 3 more in the works already

          Sony has film studios, banks, game divisions, electronic, music labels all around the world and you are concentrating on Japan, lol

    • superkarma

      Didn’t take long for you to start trolling a Sony article. What’s wrong? Upset Nintendo doesn’t have 78% of the market?

      Flag and move on, folks. Nothing to see here.

    • demfax

      Sony is on its way to recovering from years of losses and recently posted a quarterly profit as almost all of their divisions were profitable. They are not going bankrupt.

      Sony has total assets worth US$148.9 billion dollars, yearly revenue of $75+ billion, and $27+ billion in total equity. It is still one of the largest corporations on the planet with 150,000+ employees, ranked #233 in The World’s Biggest Public Companies on Forbes, and ranked #94 on the Fortune 500 2013.

      One rating agency’s opinion on Sony’s stock means almost nothing. Sony is recovering in finances, it posted a profit last quarter with almost all divisions reporting a profit including the Games division, and its stock price is stable or rising recently.

      Sony is selling or splitting off their lossy businesses (Vaio, TVs) and focusing on their profitable divisions. This means they’ll soon cut their losses and start turning a profit. Sony is in for a year or two of losses and restructuring, then provided their profitable divisions stay profitable, they’ll be on solid ground.

      The games division is in a net profit, posted a profit last quarter, and is well funded. Sony Computer Entertainment employs over 8,000 people working on Playstation across 50 countries. PSN is vastly improved and Sony is continually investing more into improving it.

      Macroaxis probability of bankruptcy declined from 79% to 44% and continues to shrink to this day, indicating a recovery.

      A single rating agency downgraded their opinion on Sony debt, it means almost nothing, there are MULTIPLE rating agencies and they all amount to investor’s opinions, not directly relating to Sony’s finances.

      As an example, streetinsider currently has 10 investment firms with a BUY rating on Sony stock, 5 hold, and zero sell. That’s likely due to Sony posting an operating profit last quarter, and stocks rising in the last 3 months.

      The picture is more complicated (and upward looking) than the link you posted. Sony’s finances have improved since then.

      It’s sad PS4 is dominating so badly that ignorant fanboys are left desperately wishing Sony would go bankrupt. Look up Sony on Wikipedia, Forbes, Google, Sony’s quarterly reports, etc. and start reading instead of blindly flinging fanboy crap. You might learn something.

    • Aiddon

      also, funny thing that happened mere days after that article:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-07/japan-shame-index-dumps-sony-stock-adds-panasonic.html

      Ouch.

      • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

        And yet these people thinks that this is old news. Console fanboys and their blind loyalty.

    • Giuseppe Nelva

      You know that this has absolutely nothing to do with games, and this comment equates to trolling?

      Here’s a piece of advice. Don’t. Otherwise, if you wanna discuss TVs, I’m pretty sure I can point you to a dedicated website or two, instead of polluting the discussion here.

      PS: It’s not just advice.

      • Homer Ruglia Beoulve

        Alright fine. I just want to state that reinforcing an illusion especially by the Sony Playstation ain’t helping the gaming industry, like at all. That’s just my two sents.

    • Agustin Freyre

      Trolls love that word dont ya? “Facts”. Sounds so undeniable and fancy. Even when you certainly dont know s**t about the subject, you just look at the numbers and draw conclusions

  • Shu577 .

    And Next…….. PSWorldDomination

  • Shu577 .

    Sony killed it without having much in the way of exclusives up until recently.
    With what they announced today in the way of games they’re going to be going hard in Japan.

    Soon Sony will own the Japanese market, particularly the home console market.
    They already have the EU and US, these new exclusives will just push things up even higher.

    Can’t believe this isn’t even their TGS conference, the way they announced this they could end up doing the same for their American and Europe divisions at any time to show off what those studios are up to.

    Not that they really need to worry now until next year, they have so many awesome looking games releasing between now and the end of next year.

    GT7 will likely be shown off soon, with a release date set for next year too.

    PS4 is only going to sell faster next year.
    I wouldn’t be shocked if the platform’s sold out through this holiday, through to the summer next year.

    Won’t be shocked if Sony sells through 35-40 million units by the end of 2015.

    • Alter

      Over internet remote-play makes it relevant for Japanese ‘workaholic’ gamers to buy Vita and PS4, unlike WiiU.

    • awang0718

      “Won’t be shocked if Sony sells through 35-40 million units by the end of 2015.”
      PS4 is a hit, but I highly doubt it will sell 20 million units per year.

      • Shu577 .

        Oh it will most definitely.

        • awang0718

          If the PS4 was to sell 20 million units this year, it would have to sell another 14.2 million units in the next 4 months. That is 3.55 million units sold per month. Aint gonna happen.

          Again, the PS4 is a huge hit, and it will continue to stomp over the Xbox One and Wii U, but be realistic.

  • http://www.thealephnullsaga.com/ Jeremiah Locanas

    I’m surprised y’all don’t have an article about PS+ users in Japan getting 250 PSP games for free for PS Vita…

    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-offers-250-free-psp-games-to-ps-plus-subscrib/1100-6422034/

    • Giuseppe Nelva

      Because there’s no way in hell that we’re getting that here, so we focused on more relevant news.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    I immediately thought of Pac-Man when I saw that pie chart LOL

  • superkarma

    Quite a lot of upset Nintendo fans/fanboys in here. Not surprising.

  • Kallumsmarties

    People are slamming the Nintendo/Microsoft fans here, but some of them are right. They stacked up PS3 and PS4 vs Wii U and didn’t take Wii into consideration. People are saying it’s a dead console, but then course it is. Discontinued and we’ve moved on, but it still sold over 100 million. Pretty sure they wouldn’t be claiming 78% after if you stacked Wii sales with Wii U.

    I like all companies to be honest, but that is not fooling me.

    • vs

      No they stacked PS3 + PS4 versus Wii U + Wii + XB360 since PS4 launched in Japan. It says the dates counted right on the slide… just it seems none of the Western sites that quoted this picture even bothered to translate it properly.

  • Agustin Freyre

    Well, as a guy who lives on the west side of the planet, little of what they showed interested me, but for many people, mainly the japanese, it was gold. PS4 is kicking ass now and by the end of 2015 it will be the king for the rest of the gen. Vita only needs the big push that for some reason Sony doesnt do. It needs one or two games more like Freedom wars, and other cool games for everyone (east and west) like an exclusive Resident Evil or Parasite Eve or something. If they do that, and continue the marriage with ps4, VIta could start to be a success, in my opinion
    The only thing that stops a lot of people to buy a Vita is that it doesnt have THAT game that you NEED.

  • awang0718

    I am going to refer to some Media Create sales numbers here, so bear with me.

    From 8/18/2014 to 8/24/2014:

    3DS LL – 28,788
    Vita – 15,309
    Wii U – 8,985
    3DS – 6,914
    PS4 – 5,923
    PS3 – 2,376
    Vita TV – 1,118
    PSP – 324
    Xbox 360 – 177
    PS3/PS4 market share:48%
    Wii U market share: 52%
    From 8/11/2014 to 8/17/2014. Note this is the week hyrule Warrioirs was released. This is also the

    • vs

      You guys just can’t read and are jumping to conclusions.

      It says on the picture “2014年2月4週から2014年8月3週まで” , which means “From 4th week February 2014 to 3rd week August 2014″.

      Run the Media Create numbers for all home consoles, including PS3, PS4, Wii, Wii U and Xbox 360 and you will see their statement is spot on.

      • awang0718

        Fair enough.

        Yes, the PS4 enjoyed a really good launch, but look at where it is now. That is the point I am trying to get at.

        • vs

          Yeah I think we can tell from the weekly sales that after launch PS4 is selling badly, not even outselling the Wii U.

          It needs Japanese games, and a lot of Japanese devs are more on handheld & smartphone, and if on console it’s more on the 7th gen still. They need these announced games badly.

          Sony made the right call to launch in the West 1st.

  • vs

    The slide says market share between Feburary & August 2014.

  • Daniel Kold

    Sony spin as usual. Wii U has sold 3 times the amount of PS4’s in japan so far. The old Wii has until this date sold just about 2 million more copies than PS3 in Japan. And last bot not least… The 3DS, with about 16 million consoles sold in Japan, has destroyed the PS Vita with about 3.5 million consoles sold.

    Now that i think about it.. Sony is not spinning this, they are straight up lying

  • Wanderlei

    Sony trying to pad the numbers, this is sad and pathetic. Sony are a dead brand in Japan.

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