Nintendo President: NX in Steady Development to Offer Different Experience from Wii U and 3DS

There’s a lot of mystery surrounding Nintendo’s upcoming console NX. Lots of rumors from “reliable sources close to the matter” have been thrown around, but very little is known for sure.

Nintendo’s recently appointed President Tatsumi Kimishima briefly talked about it during an interview on Sankei West, mentioning that the company doesn’t intend to just jumpΒ to the market with the console, that is in steady development to offer a new experience, different from what is provided by the Wii U and 3DS.

While many gamers are very eager to know what the Nintendo NX will entail, Nintendo doesn’t seem to be too much in a rush to release it.

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  • efnet

    I’m ready to buy whenever they’re ready to release it ….no rush no worries

    • Indielink

      Yeah, it’ll come when it comes and it will be rad when it does.

      • efnet

        I have the same feeling ….

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        I think you mean bad.

        • Indielink

          No. I think I mean to say it will be a cool system that I get a lot of use from.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Well, at least it has one user.

          • Indielink

            You must be a barrel of fun at parties.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Who do you think brings the barrels? πŸ˜‰

  • superkarma

    Good luck Nintendo, you’re definitely going to need it.

  • StarTheory

    Just give us a proper controller and third party support, it’s not that difficult Nintendo.

    • John

      When do you think your next argument is going to be? There is always someone on every article that tries to argue with you.

      • StarTheory

        Hahah right? It’s gonna happen soon.

        • Lrdfancypants

          No it’s not!!!!

    • crash bandicoot

      Wrong Nintendo are the best thay dont need third party games

      • StarTheory

        B1tch you wanna fight?

        • crash bandicoot

      • Sunny11

        by milking mario to oblivion

        • crash bandicoot

          I was being sarcastic

        • Dirk Farkington

          they are probably gonna make a Linkle game. thats the big new IP

          • Sunny11

            Disappointing. Nintendo always makes a game about already made characters within games, just make a whole brand new IP of which none are related to any other game series

          • Cloudman

            Like Splatoon? Like Codename Steam? Like pushmo? Like they always do? Or do you want to continue to show stupidity?

        • Cloudman

          Like Sony milks uncharted and Microsoft milks halo? Difference, Nintendo actually makes Mario games different.

          • Sunny11

            Lol go do some research
            Uncharted including Golden Abyss and 4 its only 5 games.
            Halo got 8
            Mario? Google it its over 100. Don’t give me that usual Mario becomes different crap no its not same shit every time wehter in 2d or 3d.

          • Cloudman

            Mario is also 35 years older.

            Lets ignore that fact right?

            There have been more main Halo and Uncharted games in the last 15 years than Mario games..

          • Sunny11

            Sony let’s all their IP’s end.
            Their only IP they let live from PS1 is Gran Turismo that’s it.

            Nintendo every single IP they MILK to this day since the NES. They won’t drop any IP’s. Even Uncharted its ending already with 4.
            Microsoft they did drop some IP’s and I believe Halo will soon end too.
            You fail.

          • Cloudman

            Your ignorance is showing again.

            Sony letting all of their IP end is a good thing? People have been demanding Dark Cloud, a ton of their older IP.

            Are they letting Uncharted end? God of War? No?

            “Nintendo every single IP they MILK to this day since the NES. They won’t drop any IP’s.”

            F-zero
            Magical Vacation
            I can go on and on really.

            “Even Uncharted its ending already with 4.”

            Let me educate you. Naughty Dog said it would be THEIR last Uncharted. Sony has said the series will continue with a new dev.

            “I believe Halo will soon end too.”
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • Sunny11

            Yep Sony always invests in to brand new IP’s all the time. The only new IP’s Nintendo made this gen is wonderful 101 and Splatoon ROFL.

            And yes dropping IP’s is good. See how shit Nintendo is doing with Wii U, I personally didn’t buy it because lack of new IP’s I’m sick of playing the same ol Pokemon, Zelda and Mario 24/7 every single gen.

            And lol you couldnt even put up a good list of dropped IP’s for Nintendo, the reason those dropped you listed was because it didn’t do good in sales etc, everything else? Milk milk milk

          • Cloudman

            ignoring everything I said? Sad

            “Sony always invests in to brand new IP’s all the time. ”

            And 75% of them tank. Really smart huh?

            “The only new IP’s Nintendo made this gen is wonderful 101 and Splatoon ROFL.” Factually not true but why argue with the ignorant?

            “And yes dropping IP’s is good. ”
            Sales numbers back me up. Not you.

            “See how shit Nintendo is doing with Wii U” And yet its software sales for the top 10 games sold far outstrip the top games sold on PS4 and X1. Funny huh?

          • Sunny11

            I feel sorry for people who’s buying a Wii U.
            No 3rd party support so they can only buy the same ol milked 1st party games LOL

          • Cloudman

            Just the best exclusives on the Market.

            Xenoblade X is milked? Splatoon is Milked? What Mario game is like Mario Maker? Pikmin 3 is milked? DKC Tropical Freeze is milked?

            You scream, but reality is quite different.

          • Sunny11

            A Mario game is still a Mario game, that game is a level editor so you can play the same Mario you played since the NES
            Pikmin is nothing new from its prior series
            DKC tropical freeze is milked its the same Donkey Kong gameplay with a new name at the end

            Also Nintendo loves milking their own characters, ran out of ideas so they now milk each and every character from Nintendo and make a game for them.
            Yoshi game, toad game, Kirby game, peach game, bowser game, and many more.
            It was funny his you could only list the 2 new IP’s one from Wii but everything else you list is from NES or prior

          • Cloudman

            Your ignorance and lack of knowledge is really something.

            Mario Maker has no less than 10 features that you cannot get in ANY Mario game. Yet it is the same?

            “Pikmin is nothing new from its prior series” Only 3 entries. So now you are saying nothing new?

            So Uncharted is Milked, LBP is milked, GOW is milked, everything Sony does is milked if the criteria is that lol.

            “It was funny his you could only list the 2 new IP’s one from Wii but everything else you list is from NES or prior” Pikmin is Nes or Prior? What is before NES?

            It is clear to me that you do not even read what you type. You fit in here. Your ignorance goes with the site.

          • Sunny11

            Don’t get all mad at me jrpgman (I know its you) want facts copied pasted directly to you wait till tomorrow when I’m on my pc on phone now
            And lol 10 new features suddenly makes it a brand new game nothing like the previous ones? Don’t make me laugh
            You got too much blind fanboyism for Nintendo up your ass

          • Cloudman

            All you did was spew ignorant lies. I posted facts.

            Basically if your criteria for not milking is more than 10 new features, than every game is milked.

            You do not even know what milked means lol.

          • Sunny11

            Lol keep making excuses anyways wait till tomorrow if you wanna continue this show you proof that will shut your mouth when I’m on my pc

          • Cloudman

            I guess when faced with facts all you can do is repeat the same thing over and over huh?

            Sure, go on your “PC” (as if that was not a lie). Not going to change your ignorance.

          • Sunny11

            Oh yeah I’m definitely on my PC and not on my bed right now

          • Cloudman

            Like mobile keeps you from making a rational argument with facts LOL.

          • Sunny11

            Getting sources and facts copied paated on a mobile is a pain cba with that, you seem awfully fixated of me being on my phone lmfao don’t worry I’ll show you the milking monstrosity Nintendo does soon

          • Cloudman

            So far all you have been able to do is lie and make things up.

            Utilizing IP is not milking.

            Mario Kart, Mario & Luigi, the next 3d mario plat former, are all completely different series.

          • Sunny11

            So Halo Wars and the other spinoffs is also not milking? You don’t know what your talking about jrpgman

          • Cloudman

            Oh, and Fire Emblem Fates is on pace to sell 2.5 mil worldwide when it launches in the US in Feb, is that milking too? hahahaha

          • Sunny11

            Fire emblem series is a milked IP and also not owned by Nintendo its a third party so nice try and cry some more

          • Cloudman

            “Fire emblem series is a milked IP and also not owned by Nintendo its a third party”
            Ok, either you act stupid or you really are that stupid. WOW………

            DevelopersIntelligent Systems
            Nintendo SPDPublishersNintendoCreatorsShouzou KagaComposersYuka Tsujiyoko

          • Sunny11

            You don’t know what first party and third party is do you

          • Cloudman

            Sorry, I am not going to debate with you anymore. I see you are a kid without any real knowledge of the industry. I feel embarrassed for you.

            Fire Emblem is a first party IP. Intelligent Systems is a Nintendo owned studio. You will NEVER see them make a game for Sony or Microsoft or anyone else.

            Sorry, I am not going to debate with someone who does not know anything. That is not fun for me.

          • Sunny11

            Yeah running away now I see if you wanna continue wait till tomorrow I’m trying to sleep smh

          • Cloudman

            Your time would be better spent learning about the industry and about Nintendo. You clearly are just screaming and bloviating ignorance.

            You do not know anything about Nintendo. Stop commenting on them.

          • Sunny11

            Yeah no.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Actually, Intelligent Systems is only affiliated with Nintendo. They are independent. Hal Labs is another example.

          • Cloudman

            Actually Intelligent Systems is second party. They are NOT independent. Same with Hal Labs. They cannot make games for whoever they want.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            A second party is only affiliated with the company, not owned in any way. Therefore, they can develop for another platform if they want. They choose to work with Nintendo exclusively. Gamefreak is another example. There’s a reason Gamefreak developed the game Tembo the Badass Elephant for the PS4, Xbox One and PC with Sega publishing it. They too, have been affiliated with Nintendo for years. Lol.

          • Cloudman

            They do not “chose” to. They are under lifetime contract. Intelligent Systems and Hal Labs will never make a game for another platform.

            They are both a part of Nintendo which is why we have seen people from both studios take corporate positions within Nintendo. Iwata being the most famous.

            GameFreak is a completely different situation.

            Intelligent systems and Hal Labs are a part of Nintendo.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            They are both the same situation. Lol. Lifetime contract or not, they are still independent. Indeed they are part of Nintendo due to affiliation. That I can agree with. However, neither of us knows the details of Intelligent Systems and Hal Labs actual contract, if there is even one. More than likely they kept with Nintendo due to pure loyalty.

          • Cloudman

            Lifetime contract=not independent.

            Intelligent Systems and Hal Labs are under lifetime contracts and are considered by Nintendo, part of Nintendo.

            Nintendo co-owns the Pokemon IP. GameFreak is a studio owned by Nintendo.

            The Pokemon Company, is only partnered with Nintendo, but they are not under a lifetime contract. There is a difference.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            In your opinion, they are not independent. However, by definition of second party, they are. Lol. Even lifetime contracts can be broken. Once again, if there is one.

            Sorry bud, but Gamefreak is independent from Nintendo. They’ve only worked for them exclusively with the Pokemon franchise on portables. If they were owned by Nintendo, Nintendo wouldn’t even allow them to work on a game that was going on other platforms than their own. That contradicts your previous comment pertaining to it as well. Pokemon Company is a joint investment from Nintendo, Gamefreak and Creatures. Nintendo however, has the larger stake in th company.

          • Cloudman

            Nintendo owns 54% of Gamefreak and (IIRC) majority stock in the Pokemon company as well.

            That comes right from the site FAQ. They are not 100% owners.

            There is one.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I’ve heard many times people saying they own 54%. I’ve also heard 51% and 100% pertaining to Gamefreak. Guess what? I’ve found no solid evidence that supports those claims. When a second party like Gamefreak is developing a game that is only for PS4, Xbox One and PC, that claim gets put to rest. It’s pretty obvious that Gamefreak is independent. If they weren’t, there would be solid proof on every site that keeps those tabs. Of course, if you wish to believe that, you’re free to. We all know your quite stubborn and will never give in to being wrong. ;P

          • Cloudman

            They are 54% owned by Nintendo. Nintendo is the majority owner, but they still have certain independence. Hell the heads of GameFreak are also Nintendo employees.

            Intelligent Systems and Hal Labs have no independence whatsoever. That is the difference. They are under contract.

          • According to their wiki, they are affiliated, but not owned by Nintendo.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Systems

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            According to many sites, I see the same result. I know I wasn’t the only one who noticed.

          • Cloudman

            Fire Emblem as an IP is 100% owned by Nintendo.

          • maybe but the games are developer by Intelligent Systems, which doesnt seem to be owned, only affiliated, by Nintendo.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Systems

          • Cloudman

            Affiliated by a lifetime contract and partnership. They are considered first party by Nintendo themselves. Nintendo employees jump to intelligent systems and back and forth all the time. Fire Emblem, WarioWare, Pushmo, and more, all the IP they work on are 100% owned by Nintendo.

          • BigHurt360

            Don’t feel sorry for them, there’s a totally different console compared to the rest. I don’t buy a Nintendo to play FIFA and CoD. I want Nintendo Games, pure and simple. They are the only ones that still offers 4 player split screen, full BWC and free online. But go ahead, give them grief for not catering exactly to your own prefereances.

          • Well said. Though there’s the occasional 4 player split outside Nintendo. Go look “Blur the game” up. 4 player racing, adult mario kart.

          • BigHurt360

            Blur is super fun, I have it for the PS3! Totally agree with the adult Mario kart comparison πŸ™‚

          • The people who buy the wii u know this – they get the console to play those games.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I prefer a console with both. While I’m sure Wii U is a fun console to play Nintendo games, I’m not one to invest in just for one side of the spectrum. To each their own.

          • I agree totally. I still want (and currently getting) each console as exclusives are better than multiplatform titles and it get confirmed time and time again when I play.

            I can accept the current ongoing with almost exclusive games on wii u as my main is ps4 but I get x1 exclusives (and when in sales) games on that platform too. If NX sports “medals” of some kind, I might just for sake of it change to NX for a while.. Nintendo also seems to be notorious of making sure games works on their system which might make the games more bug-free.

          • zero

            A company trying to diversify their portfolio by creating new games is a smart thing, yes, irrelevant of whether they sell a lot or not.

            It does get a bit painful if you are one of the few fans of a series that suddenly doesn’t get a sequel because it didn’t sell well enough. But I’d rather have had the experience of playing something new than not having been able to play it at all.

          • Cloudman

            That is not a smart thing if the return on investment is not there.

            Fans like the series they like

          • zero

            Still a smart thing, though.

          • HoistDude

            The Wii U just outsold the PS4 in Japan this entire holiday season at a 2-1 ratio. The 3DS just outsold the PS4 in Japan at a 3-1 ratio. In contrast, how is that Vita coming there?

          • HoistDude

            Dark Cloud isn’t Sony IP, it is owned by Level 5 and Level 5 is dedicating themselves to Nintendo consoles at this point. You have a much better chance of seeing another Dark Cloud on a Nintendo system than a Sony system.

          • Cloudman

            Dark Cloud is a sony owned IP. Level 5 said flat out that Sony would have to green light it.

          • Cloudman

            Oh, and fans love it when Nintendo revives old IP.

            When Nintendo had not made 2D Mario Platformers for 15 years, the new series broke all sales records.

            Luigi’s Mansion 2? 4+ million units sold.

            Kid Icarus revival? DKC?

            The fans demand Nintendo’s IP. You have no understanding of the fanbase.

          • Sunny11

            No your just blatantly admitting Nintendo milks all their IP’s. Nice backpeddling you did there what a fail LMAO

          • Cloudman

            Using an IP and milking are completely different. But then again, you comment here, and largely scream to nobody.

          • Sunny11

            Loooool
            Sure it is buddy, nice excuse there thanks for the laughs

          • Thatguy

            Definitely milking.

          • Cloudman

            Definitely not milking. Nintendo games in the same series show more differences than just about any other series.

            Was Mario Kart 8 and Mario 3d World milking when they both were critically acclaimed? I do not think So.

            I would rather get an amazing game in an old IP than a new IP that has no quality whatsoever

          • *cough*Devil’s Third*cough*

          • Cloudman

            Idiots tend to think new ip automatically=better than old IP when that could not be farther from the truth. Most people want old IP.

          • Because people are not agreeing with you does not make them idiots. It’s an obtuse statement. See what I did there? I disagreed with you and implied you’re an idiot for it.

            Seriously though, if the same IPs got made all the time, it would quickly get boring, new worlds and characters always a treat to experience.

          • Cloudman

            Nintendo does not make the same IP all the time, which is why these people are hilariously trolling.

          • We see at least one Zelda game, One 2D Mario game, one 3D Mario game and one Mario kart game and one Mario Party game on each platform. These games are just promoted a lot, so people feel like it’s being milked.

          • Cloudman

            We did not see a 2D Mario for 15 years, 3D Marios are 7+ years apart………1 Mario Kart a system?

            That is not milked at all. Peoples feelings as usual are wrong.

          • exactly my point. it just feeeeeeels that way because of the known brand that get so much exposure.

          • Thatguy

            And Mario kart 8 alone doesn’t signify milking ?………….8.. not 3 or 4, but 8. As with most other Nintendo games. Not saying the game is bad by any means, but its definitely milking.

          • You gotta remember… Mario Kart games has been in the world for 24 years… not 3, not 8, but 24.

          • Cloudman

            One Mario Kart game per gen is not milking. That is called making fans happy by making an entry in a popular series.

            They are not overdoing it at all.

          • Tbot

            They can make “new” Mario games for the next 50 years and I will have them all. First person shooters, I can pass on them till there is one that is different.

          • HoistDude

            Everybody uses well-established and franchises — everyone. That is why we have a Forza 6 and a Halo 5 and a Mario Kart 8. The ONLY difference is that Mario Kart has been around for about 10-15 years longer than Forza. If anything, Nintendo needs to milk their franchises MORE. When was the last time we saw a Kid Icarus game for consoles? And, honestly, they release new games based on the Metroid franchise at about half the rate Microsoft releases Master Chief and Halo games. Heck, Sony is already up to Uncharted 4 with a 5th installment being developed? That is much faster by far than even Super Mario — which has been around since the early 80s. Seriously, it has been a decade since we had a decent Star Fox game. Yet, GTA (a franchise that is barely a decade old) is already developing a 6th installment of the series. Seriously, when was the last time we had a decent F-Zero or Mother game? In the meantime, we can’t even go a single year without a new COD, Assassin’s Creed, Metal Gear, Fifa, Madden, or Skylanders.
            Nintendo uses their franchises FAR less than anyone else in this industry. That is a FACT.

          • zero

            GTA will have its two decade anniversary in 2017, actually.

          • The difference between Mario and Uncharted? Mario have become a brand, he’s not just a character anymore. Same with Pokemon and Zelda to an extent.

          • gameformetoo

            I mean, have u seen the creator of mario? he looks tired. He needs rest but noooo, he can’t cause he has to finish a mario game every two weeks so you get to actually use you’re wii u

          • Cloudman

            You sound jealous that he is in the game industry, people care about him, and you are spewing trash like that.

          • Get out. Just.get.out.

          • gameformetoo

            it’s ppl like you who make nintendo have to come out with a console every 3-4 years and ruin that same console because you don’t support third parties. so nintendo is DOA with every system because all you want is mario tennis, kart, party,golf and zelda

          • Cloudman

            Who says I do not support third parties?
            Nintendo is doing amazing with 3DS. Tons of third parties.

            Nintendo uses more IP than any other company. Not just 3-4

          • gameformetoo

            Ha! So that’s why ubisoft only releases dance party on wii u. Anytime nintendo gets third party they always get something broken down, somethings always missing because cost of productivity wont’ be made back in sales. If you support third party great, but you’re one of the few that supports them. You’re also the one that stops playing it after a week to go back to smash bros. Which explains the lack of dlc’s too.
            No wonder nintendo is going mobile. Sure, they’ll keep supporting the wii u and 3ds(i own 3ds) but they’re looking at the majority of the money which will come from mobile. In-games purchases, less man power to make, more profit. With a name like nintendo they could be king(candy crush) but for console, thats dead.) 3ds is on it’s way cause of mobile and the controllers that they’re making for it doesn’t make it better

          • Cloudman

            You are jumping from one extreme to another. Handheld third party support is fantastic. It is the console side that needs work. Not fair to condemn everything.

            ” they’re looking at the majority of the money which will come from mobile”

            5 games in 2 years on mobile is not the majority. Come on dude.

            2016 might be the year of the 3DS, have you seen the exclusive lineup? Better than all the consoles, even Wii U.

          • Oh God, I don’t hope so. Konami is going mobile, and they’re gonna kill themselves because they think that mobile will make them more well-known and lots of money. The thing is, mobile gamers aren’t loyal. They WILL leave the developer behind. If Nintendo does this…. tsk tsk.

            Dance Party is coming to wii and wii u because it was easy to part as the game is simple and easy to fit to the specs on the wii u, while bigger games can’t fit.

            And missing DLC on Wii U is because Nintendo still lacks the infrastructure.

          • Cloudman

            When a company finds a successful series, they use it. That is what the fans want. Find me a game company that does not use there most successful IP. That is bad business. Which proves why you are here and not working at Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo.

          • WTGHookshot

            Um, I take it you are forgetting the free-to-play Uncharted game for Vita: Fight for Fortune.

            I’m not arguing against your thoughts or saying you are wrong, just figured I’d better correct you as your argument holds no credence if you can’t present the facts right, you know?

          • Sunny11

            If mobile games is taken into account then there’s more of Mario then as some were also on pc too

          • WTGHookshot

            It wasn’t a mobile game. It was exclusive to Vita.

            And those PC Mario games you refer to aren’t sanctioned by Nintendo, so I don’t know how you’d count those unless you are doing so just to be deliberately obtuse.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Nintendo gave permission to make educational games based off of Mario. Games such as Mario’s Time Machine and Mario is Missing were on Nintendo platforms as well. They just didn’t develop them, but Nintendo did publish some of them on their own platforms such as SNES. It’s been confirmed years ago. ;P

          • LOL… Mario on PC.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I remember playing some of those educational Mario games on PC years ago. Though some them made it to NES and SNES.

          • Yeah I stumbled open both not long ago. But regular Mario games is not on PC officially.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Actually, they are. Nintendo even published a few of them on NES. Mario’s Time Machine being a perfect example was published by Nintendo on NES. Best to see for yourself than me telling you. Lol.

          • Read my post once more. I didn’t disagree with you.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Yeah that’s what happens when one only skims over. My mistake.

          • WTGHookshot

            Sorry. It was free-to-play in the US from what I remember. That doesn’t seem to be the case now (or at least worldwide).

          • Tbot

            So, all the first person shooter games a different? How? PS and MS rely on third party to be successful, Nintendo has so many IPs they can support themselves.

          • Nintendo can’t support their console with their own games alone. That’s so obvious when looking at the Wii U sales. It’s being sold to Nintendo fans and not anyone else – and that’s a problem. Nintendo has been losing money and stock value for years.

            Nintendo working so hard on a new console already is a clear sign they want – and need – to get back into the game and get third party support from as many as possible.

          • Tbot

            Actually, they could support themselves if they have enough people working on each game.

            The only reason they are struggling with the Wii U is because people are cheap, fans and developers. People don’t want to buy multiple systems but they get the Xbox and PS, to play the same exact games. They don’t buy Nintendo because it makes them feel like a kid, or the lack of games. Both reasons are ridiculous! People support two systems that are almost identical, have the same exact games with the exception of a few and provide the same experience. Neither of those systems have the games that are on the Wii U. Developers are cheap because they only want to release one game and make money, they don’t want to push the envelope and try to create a new experience. Only relive lasts years game with an update in graphics and achievements.

            Sure, I hope Nintendo finds a way to be crazy successful. I just don’t think that allowing 3rd parties to release ports is the way to go. They don’t put enough effort as it is into their games and they don’t want to see success on a Nintendo platform. Some of them have even gone on record saying they don’t create games for Nintendo systems because their games consistently sell less than any Nintendo game released at the same time. So they gave up trying.

          • zero

            Sure, blame consumers and developers, don’t ever let any blame hit Nintendo, because that’d be just crazy.

          • Tbot

            Go ahead, point out the blame Nintendo should be responsible for. From my perspective, the blame falls on everyone else.

          • zero
          • Tbot

            Thanks for pointing out the blame, none. If Nintendo was just like the other two, there would be no reason to have three consoles anymore. Heck, the other two are identical already. If you don’t see this, please view your own video.

          • zero

            I see you got the reference and joke?

            Nintendo can be blamed for their bad marketing of the console, of their failure to get games on their console, both first and third party, of their lackluster member system which only now is shaping up to be decent, of region locking their console, to name a few things.

          • Tbot

            So when the Prius came out, was it Toyota’s fault that people thought you needed to plug it in or was it the consumers fault for not checking into the product. Business can educate people only so much, it’s up to the people to figure things out in the end. I never saw any bad marketing because I already desired to know more and found all the information I needed with the greatest of ease.

            They launched many games and the eshop has many great indy games to fill the gaps. The problem here is the constant need to have more and more games. I for one, have a life outside video games. A company who creates games can only do so much with the staff they have. The fact they released as many games as they did shows dedication to their craft and console. Third party games that are missing components the other systems contain and at a high price, won’t sell their games. If people really wanted them, probably already own the game being sold because it came out last year. How would this be Nintendo’s fault?

            Their member system is an add-on and the fact that people feel like they need to be rewarded for spending their money is absurd.

            Region locking is an old topic and one of which Nintendo has proven there is a need and reason for having it. They may at some point get rid of it and not care about the intricate details of why region locking exists, until then, people just need to deal with it.

            These ideas don’t place blame on Nintendo for their position, it reflects the direction cheap gamers have grown accustom to. It also reflects the way developers are becoming increasingly lazy because gamers are increasingly impatient to obtain the newest game.

          • zero

            Yes, it was Toyota’s fault for failing with their marketing department. The purpose of marketing is to educate the masses on a product, if a mass misconception arises about your product then your marketing department has failed and should get to work to rectify this mistake. Saying that people should just inform themselves is an almost childish way of thinking and a dangerous train of thought for any company.

            So now people are to blame for wanting games for their console? Check. Nintendo could put more effort into creating contracts with third party developers for games on their system. Like for example, how Sony bankrolled Bloodborne and co-created it with From Software. I’m not even talking about getting multi platforms on their system.

            Their member system is an add-on and the fact that people feel like they need to be rewarded for spending their money is absurd.

            I never said a thing about being rewarded for spending money or anything, I was referring to the asinine system of having your purchases bound to your Wii-U hardware instead of to a software account.

            Region locking is an old topic and one of which Nintendo has proven there is a need and reason for having it. They may at some point get rid of it and not care about the intricate details of why region locking exists, until then, people just need to deal with it.

            Remind me what that need and reason is again, because strangely, other companies don’t see a need or reason to have it, must be Nintendo’s super smart people. And I’m sure dealing with it, by not buying a 3DS or Wii-U, as are many others.

            And there you go again, calling consumers cheap and developers lazy, you sound like a petulant child.

          • Tbot

            If I watch a Toyota commercial and never see anyone plug the thing in, pretty sure it doesn’t need it. When I bought one, I knew all the info I needed because I researched it. If I waited for the world to tell me how things are, nothing in my life would have ever gotten done.

            Yes, people are to blame. This goes for each console. Gamers wait to buy things until they have that one game. They fork out 300 – 500 on a system for one game and then start playing other games. Yes, that makes sense from a single perspective but when you have a system that has a wide variety of games to play, chose not support it because that one game isn’t there, that hurts the industry. I got a Wii U straight away and have gotten my money’s worth just with Nintendo titles. Without the interest shown, purchases, developers shy away because of the lack of an audience. Nintendo has no reason to want or reach out to developers that have not reached out to them. Other companies need to take care of themselves, just as Nintendo takes care of itself. If the audience wants a certain game to come to a certain console, why don’t they send the dev their own money to bankroll the game development? Why should one company take care of another? They are there to make money, not waste it on a hope and a prayer. There is a reason they have so much cash on hand and can support themselves. If a company wants to make a game, grow up and develop the game with your own funds. If they can’t afford it, don’t develop it.

            What the heck are you talking about, hardware vs software account?

            A regional lockout may be enforced for several reasons, such as to stagger the release of a certain product, to hinder grey market imports by enforcing price discrimination, or to prevent users from accessing certain content in their territory because of legal reasons (either due to censorship laws, or because a distributor does not have the rights to certain intellectual property outside of their specified region). By having it, none of this can happen. Until the world is ruled by the same government, its good business to make sure that people making things licensed by Nintendo, are following the rules. By taking it out, the companies put it on the responsibility of the purchaser who can get arrested in some countries. This is why you can’t buy a Japanese game at Walmart.

            Not buying the system because of region locking is ridiculous.

            So yes, consumers are cheap and developers are lazy. If all developers created games for every market, every market would have them. Since that isn’t the case, some get left behind. Developers are lazy for a reason, the cost of doing business in the field of gaming is exploding. Gamers expectations are the leading reason these costs are exploding.

          • “So yes, consumers are cheap” no, it’s called prioritizing what you do with your money, dude.

            “developers are lazy” no, its called business decisions.

          • Tbot

            Consumers are very cheap. If they can’t get it for free, they weigh their options. If something is for sale that they can get for free, most gamers opt for the free, legal or not. When people don’t pay the proportionate cost for the value they receive, they are cheap.

          • oh yeah. I just call them spoiled gamers. πŸ˜‰

          • Brian Wise

            I guess Nintendo working with platinum on wonderful 101 and bayonetta 2 plus Tecmo Koei with hyrule warriors doesn’t count

          • zero

            You guessed wrong, I’m afraid.

          • I think we’re focusing on the fact Nintendo messed up at the announcement keynote, not what they did right later.

          • Not to mention inferior hardware, which made a number of developers give up on porting their game. Project Cars is one.

          • If you want the multiplatform titles and the nintendo games you currently have to buy two systems. If NX is going to catch that much up that its easy to port and adapt to their hardware, you only need one console. Just saying.

          • Tbot

            Personally, I haven’t wanted a multiplatform title in quite some time. Either way Nintendo goes, people will have to buy multiple systems because of the exclusives. It is only easy to port when the architecture of the consoles are identical and this is what the devs look for. Easy ways to make money instead of bringing something truly new to the masses. The Wii U has proven that just porting things over is troublesome for 3rd parties. If 3rd parties want a console with everything they want, why don’t they just make a system for themselves. Since they haven’t, makes sense to make sure that their games reach as many people as possible. Since they have shown no effort, I don’t support them. I don’t condone laziness.

          • the exclusives is the console manufactures way to lure people to buy their system. It’s a business practice, pure and simple. And making a console is not all that simple, so don’t imply it is.

            They do their effort, but porting to the wii u is just too much work compared to the sales that can happen on it. So saying they are lazy and you dont want to support them, is ignorant.

          • Tbot

            Never implied that making a console is easy, you mention porting is easy, which it isn’t. They are lazy and that is why I don’t buy from them. Releasing a game with problems, less content and at a higher price; isn’t going to attract many people.

            Exclusives are the only thing keeping the systems different at this point, MS and XB. Nintendo is different in how they are played but they aren’t getting many of the exclusives. However, exclusives are only going to hurt the industry, not improve it. Exclusives to me, third party titles holding a place for only one system. First party titles don’t count.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            All I heard was wah wah wah.

          • Same here. I had to read it three times. I even contemplated not responding…

          • Tbot

            That’s weird you heard something.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Not too hard when one is so loud. ;P

          • Never said porting was easy… on the contrary. and lol of course they arent getting any of the other consoles exclusives, that’s the way exclusives works. nintendo gets their own exclusives, clearly.

          • Brian Wise

            Actually Nintendo is making profit not losing it and 11 million off of just first party games is amazing Sony and Microsoft sure as hell couldn’t sell 11 million off just their first party games

          • Yeah after losing money for 4 years, as from may 2015 they started to make profit.
            http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2015/05/07/nintendo-is-making-money-for-the-first-time-in-years/

            But the matter of supporting themselves with their own games has nothing to do with sales or stock. If the console should live and be sold for more than 7 years, it needs 3rd party games to keep the flow. Period.

          • Blackzero123 .

            Uncharted is ending unlike halo and Mario.

          • it might not. Naughty Dog might not develop more Uncharted games, but Sony can still make another dev do it.

          • Cloudman

            Uncharted is not ending, only Naughty Dogs involvement

          • gameformetoo

            it;s ppl like you who make nintendo have to come out with a console every 3-4 years and ruin that same console because you don’t support third parties. so nintendo is DOA with every system because all you want is mario tennis, kart, party,golf and zelda

      • Tbot

        I don’t buy third party new anymore and have been very happy with all my Nintendo games.

      • *Don’t read replies*

        I like the fact that Nintendo have different games than from other consoles. It just seems boring to me seeing the same games being released for all consoles.

    • Joachim

      They did with SNES you’re right.

    • Bebop

      …they do have a proper controller ? its the Pro controller. you dont have to use the pad?

      • Namie

        Technically, you do need to use the Gamepad. You can’t start your games without it.
        Plus, not every game supports the Pro Controller.

        • Badouken

          You can indeed start a game without the gamepad. You can press X and point a wiimote at the TV I believe and select a game. You might even be able to press X and use the pro controller to select the game but I forgot.

          • Namie

            Wow, you’re right! Just tested it out, and it worked indeed. I only knew about holding the X button during the boot-up to directly go to Wii mode, but I had no idea you could just use the Wiimote directly on the WiiU menu.
            Huh, you learn something new every day. πŸ™‚

          • Badouken

            Right! Its actually pretty cool!

    • TC-man Tang

      It’s all about money! More third party support is surely coming if Nintendo is willing to spend more money!

    • Boerewors

      Just buy a PS4 πŸ˜‰

      • Demetrius Radford

        Thats why they want different experiences because why buy a NX if its gonna do nothing unique compared to x1 and ps4

        • Boerewors

          Exactly my thoughts! If I have to bet I think the NX is a juiced up handheld which can connect to the TV with a dock. It will be powerful, but in its own way. It’ll play bigger console games, handheld experiences and mobile games all available in one e-shop with one unified account. It’ll be $199 at launch and will especially be excellent in emulating older games, which Nintendo will put out on a massive scale for fair prices.

          Or it won’t. πŸ˜€

          • Demetrius Radford

            Lol. If its what you explained. Im preordering. I’ve never preordered a console or handheld but i like that idea. Maybe it’ll have a powerful mobile apu from amd and will make that idea possible

          • Boerewors

            When the insiders said it was powerful, they might as well be talking bout a mobile APU and it would make total sense; it would explain the sudden change in their mobile strategy, it wouldn’t scare away their biggest audience which are handheld gamers, and for €199 it would make a really attractive (impulse buy) console.

            With the power these mobile APUs harness these days Nintendo can do some awesome things for both home and handheld console experiences and you could also play your mobile “minis” and retro games at the comfort of your own home, or your parents place….or the train.

        • GigaGaia

          Even if it offers a different experience, why would I buy a NX, it’s gonna be less powerful than the PS4 and X1 and use even more outdated tech. Their stupid new little controller isn’t gonna be worth it, especially if it’s like the shitty gamepad.

          Nintendo is doing yet again what people don’t want. What people want is a normal controller.

          • Demetrius Radford

            More powerful doesn’t mean better. The ps2 was less powerful than the xb original but does that mean it was better. The wii was the less powerful console but was fun as hell.

          • You have no idea what kind of hardware Nintendo will put in the NX. Pretending to know what they’ll do just make you look stupid. Same goes for the controller.

    • Nororu

      gamecube controller 2 + powerfull machine, that is what i want and of course good games.

      • Nororu

        i just hope it’s not a controller with screen expensive.

    • garf02

      yes Nintendo, just make another carbon copy console, that is the right mentallity that we still use only a d pad and A and B, right?

      dont risk creating something different Nintendo.
      Who need changes??

      • crash bandicoot

        If thay want to sell consoles then yes

        • garf02

          fun fact Nintendo makes money out of the software sales, not the hardware.

          only investors and trolls care about console sales

          • crash bandicoot

            If thay have better hardware sales thay will have better software sales thats why every multiplat game sell the best on ps4 no?

          • garf02

            jokes on you. Nintendo dont makes the Xbone

            jokes on you 2: Shovel knight, Rayman Legends among the few games both consoles share had sold better on Nintendo consoles.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s the problem. “Few.” That doesn’t help your argument much.

          • garf02

            you choose the parallel, not me. had you said 3rd party, you would have the higher ground.

            Exclusives wise. imo WiiU > PS4 > Xbone

          • Agreed. Pure exclusives? Nintendo wins. Sony is close though with the Order, Uncharted and Infamous…

          • garf02

            >Order
            at least say Bloodborn, but Orden……sigh

          • Bloodborne never appealed to me. I loved The Order 1886

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Sadly for you, I couldn’t care less about your opinion. Neither does many here. I find exclusives on all platforms worthy of my money. I don’t play favorites. Being a fanboy, doesn’t have its merits. ;P

          • garf02

            is fun cause I dont care for your opinion either. so we even, High five πŸ˜€

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            *high fives* πŸ˜€

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            You’re one of them because you are talking about sales as well. ;P

          • Hardware sales needs to happen before software sales can happen.

          • garf02

            the word (2) or the day is: Attachment Rate

          • What do you mean?

          • garf02

            games sold/ consoles sold = attachment rate.

            when you do the numbers, sony sells more consoles, but Nintendo sell more 1st party games

            >but 3rd party games.

            I cant tabulate that exactly but even then the revenue from a 3rd party game is 5$ royalty, the revenue from a 1st party game after retails cut, and shit is about 35$ per game sold at retail (51$ for each online copy)

            so last time I did the math Nintendo had a higher AR. WiiU owners buy more games than PS4 or Xbox Owners

          • No, Wii U owners buy more 1st party games than PS4 and One owners, but isnt that a given when almost all games for WU is 1st party?

          • garf02

            and this is bad cause?
            as I said company wise, they want to sell more 1st party games, the $$ margin is 35$ to 51$ per game sold
            3rd party games are 5$ at best due to royalties.

            so 1 st party game sold = 7-10 3rd party.

          • Did I say it was bad?

            The reason companies want more third party games (just look at the deals they do with developers) is to get more people to buy their hardware. Nintendo missed that apparently.

      • Namie

        Because their loyal supporters certainly benefitted from Nintendo being different and all. I mean, look at the WiiU – Nintendo decided to be so different, not even their own developers bothered to make decent use of the console’s main selling point, its innovative controller.
        Not to forget the wasted resources on quality titles like Mario Tennis rehash that nobody wanted, Mario Party 11 with the same shitty concept everyone criticized the previous entry for, the greatly in demand Animal Crossing people have been dying for turned into a trashy “party” game which btw was supposed to be free but – whoops – it’s $60 instead.
        Oh yess, definitely looking forward to the WiiU’s 2016, with its whopping 3 big titles scheduled for the entire year so far, while the two other “carbon copies” are going to offer us 30+ games to choose from, in the same period of time. Thank god Nintendo is being so different! Everyone loves it, especially the 3rd-party devs.

        Before anyone gets me wrong, I certainly don’t think the entire library of the WiiU is terrible or anything, it sure has its good games. But, in my opinion, not nearly as many as it should have. The lack of 3rd-party support more than obviously is hurting it greatly.
        And personally, I’d choose a console that offers me “classic” gaming with a huge library and a steady flow of new games over a different/innovative one with not much more to offer than a couple gems, like, any day.
        That being said, I certainly hope Nintendo doesn’t do the same mistake of entirely relying on unnecessary “innovations” again.

        • garf02

          1 by one
          >controller
          Beyonetta, W101, Xenoblade, Star Fox, HW, etc
          >Rehash
          “lets mention X+1 game from X franchise that I dont I dopnt play or like.. but when is FF XV comming out!!??? Its only the 15th in less years than mario.
          this is you just bitching and strawmaning.
          >Line up and library
          Quantity =/= quality, yada yada. E3, NX on the horizon, etc. also hey, let me give you a hand on double standards ;D
          http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/26/sony-and-playstation-4-silence-is-golden
          >And personally, I’d choose a console that offers me “classic” gaming
          with a huge library and a steady flow of new games over a
          different/innovative one with not much more to offer than a couple gems,
          like, any day.
          This boils down to Opinion mate, and in my opinion I would rather go for a console that does something new. and tries to innovate, than a console that plays games and looking worst than what I can get for my PC.

          • Cloudman

            You have restored my faith in the comments on this site.

          • Namie

            “1 by one” πŸ™‚
            > You were able to list 5 games that make use of the console’s main feature. I don’t think that’s something speaking for the WiiU, but rather against it. If a console has such a big focus on a certain feature, I’d expect every game to utilize it decently.
            All of that regardless from the question whether or not those games actually make *good* use of the Gamepad, which was my actual point.

            >Rehash
            You do realize that Mario Tennis came out not too long ago on the 3DS already, and that the most recent version on WiiU is heavily lacking content and features? Also, it’s funny how you call Final Fantasy XV a rehash when it is completely new, different and independent from previous entries in the entire series, which, unfortunately, can’t be said about the newest Mario Tennis. Your statement gives me the impression you don’t know what rehash means, because if you did, I’m convinced you would have chosen a wiser example to prove your “point”.

            >Line-up and library
            Never claimed quantity equals quality. But I will claim that having a wide array of quality titles to choose from is better than having only a handful of them.
            And E3? What? That’s still 6 months away. I don’t know about you, but I sure as hell don’t want to wait 6 months before I get some news on upcoming WiiU titles, just to end up having to wait another couple months for the release after their announcements. And the NX? How is that solving any of the many problems of the WiiU? It’s a new system; if at all, it can do better on what has been done wrong with the WiiU, but it certainly won’t help the WiiU’s situation. Plus, I wouldn’t expect it to launch this year anyway.
            And did you really link me an article from 2013? How is that supposed to support any of your points, or disprove any of mine? Unless you’ve been completely avoiding and ignoring media related to the video game industry, you would know about all the games that are coming to PS4 this year. How is an article from 2 years ago proving anything at all?

            > quote from my original comment
            Of course it boils down to opinion, that’s why I said *personally* I’d chose one over the other. It’s my personal view, not a fact.

          • garf02

            boy, do I enjoy my life

            controls
            5> + will be 99% of the games if you add in Off screen display.
            if you want to talk about useless features, Xbox has Kinect and Sony has a touch pad that is never used, yet is used as excuse to cut backwards compatibly to DS3 and force people to buy all new controllers
            CAPITALISM, HO!

            Rehash
            >you are calling mario tennis a rehash.

            >mixing handheld with console
            >FF is 100% unique and fresh.. when is not even out
            you might have had a point had you say a normal Mario game, but Mario Tennis?

            >Line up
            Quantity =/= Quality, you have not argument m8/ sis

          • Namie

            controls:
            I’m not talking about Off-screen play. I’m talking about utilizing the Gamepad in-game, for actual features enhancing gameplay, which is what developers would need to put time and effort into, which again, is the point I was making. I think that was pretty clear in my previous comments. While off-TV play can be convenient, it does not have any kind of influence on the game or the gameplay itself, and isn’t really something the game developers themselves need to come up with.
            Also, Kinect and the DS4’s touchpad? Really now? Does Microsoft force the Kinect onto people, forcing them to buy it? Forcing people to pay $100 for it when buying their console? Is the Kinect the main selling point of the XB? Again, a very poorly chosen example to try to prove your point.
            Similar situation for the DS4’s touch pad. It’s not the main selling point of the DS4, let alone the PS4. And even though it may be underutilized, or feel gimmicky in some games, it’s not much of a big deal because it’s not a very significant feature of the DS4 anyway, the controller would barely even change if the touch pad wasn’t there – as opposed to the huge, bulky screen you need to be holding with the WiiU’s main controller, which is, as already mentioned, supposed to be the WiiU’s selling point.

            Rehash
            > Thanks for telling me, I hadn’t even realized that’s what I’ve been saying since my first comment!
            >mixing handheld with console? What is that supposed to mean? Are you referring to me bringing up Mario Tennis on the 3DS? If so, how does that change anything about the negative points of Mario Tennis on WiiU? Right, that doesn’t change anything at all, other than supporting my point – Mario Tennis on WiiU still a terrible excuse of a “new” game they wasted resources on.
            >Does FFXV need to be out for people to be able to tell it’s different from the previous entries of the series? Have you seen the locations it’s taking place in in any previous FF game? The characters? The story? The exact same gameplay? All points we had the chance to experience in the demo, by the way? I believe it’s rather obvious that it doesn’t have anything to do with any previous FF games.
            >What? Why would I bring up any other Mario game when I was criticizing the latest entry in the Mario Tennis series for its lack of content and uncreative approach, since/in my first comment? That would make absolutely no sense, I’m afraid.

            >Line up
            …That’s what I said, “m8/sis”.
            But I will question your credibility if you disagree with me when I say *more* quality titles are better than *only a handful* of quality titles, because that’s exactly what I said in my previous comment.

          • Yeah because graphics is everything, right? RIGHT?

            Well. I’m so frikkin happy that i 1) don’t have to sit for hours and trying to make a game work if there’s something in the way like drivers missing or hardware too old/weak 2) Play the game after an install that never fails 3) turning on the console with a wireless controller so i don’t have to leave the couch.

            I also get to play the very best games of all the consoles, because exclusive games is just that better because the developers always seems to care a little more about the product than those who spits out mulitiplatform titles.

          • garf02

            >Play the game after an install that never fails
            >never
            ifyoukeepussingthatword.meme

    • Demetrius Radford

      They want something different. Something to make people want to get an NX. A good controller and 3rd party support but also a different experience. I already have an X1 but if the NX is just like x1/ps4 why get one because exclusives arent a big enough reason

      • The Wii sold like hot cakes because it lured non gamers to get it because wiisports was fun and easy to get into with the wiimote. Yes, even elderly who often are not up for trying/learn new things.

        Nintendo tried to add a lot of gimmicks to the new console in attempt to lure more players in, but it ended up doing the opposite. It alienated core gamers as well as developers.

        It was also easy for the contenders to catch up by use of other hardware (playstation vita + windows phone devices), and the inferior hardware made it even harder (gimmicks in form of gamepad is extra work, just for one console) for developers to develop/port their games for the console.

        Nintendo needs to do a few things. First of all, they need to get their core gamers back that they threw away with the wii that was flabbergasted with third party crapgames because of the big userbase and low price.

        That means they need to develop a GOOD regular controller, and NO not the gamecube ones (yuck), 3rd party support (catch up on hardware and make it easy to develop for!), they need to get good first party developers, that is NOT developing their current franchises – they need new franchises! – to get more gamers in – all already said by you here.

        They need to make a good online experience, make it possible to buy digital games via web (they need to look on the ps store for reference, I hate the xbox website when it comes to buy games – microsoft get your butts to work), and they might need to consider making some medal system with score to catch up with the other systems even more. This goes for harddrive space too..

        • Cloudman

          Vita does nothing right.

          • Vita is failing because Sony stopped fighting for it and it’s currently being a retro- and indie-machine which is a huge shame. Where’s the big games I was hoping for? :/

          • Cloudman

            Vita is selling worse than Wii U. That is bad.

          • Really?

            No sure what’s going on in the graph, but the numbers below shows Vita has sold better than the WU. πŸ˜‰

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Not by much to be fair, but indeed that is correct.

          • japan <3 Too bad I'm not a fan of japanese rpg's and hate the style of anime and manga.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            I tried to get into JRPGs, but I find that a lot of them are too similar to my taste. The anime style is a bit tedious in my opinion. I prefer action/adventure, platform, and open world.

          • Cloudman

            Vita has been on the market over a year. Wii U is outpacing it and by the end of the year it will surpass it.

            Last month? Wii U outsold Vita in every single region

          • Of course. The gamers who want the vita got it. And no campaigns to push it has happened – unlike the Wii U, where Nintendo still try to amend things until NX is properly announced.

          • zero

            That the only thing you took from this message, eh?

            By you ignoring everything else, I can assume that you agree with everything else, right?

      • Cloudman

        You are smart.

    • StarTsurugi

      I’m sure there’ll be some obscene gimmick that will scare the third parties.
      But I’m sure a proper controller will be available, maybe even at launch and with the console.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      It’s not that difficult? This is Nintendo. Get with it.

    • Cloudman

      Yeah because that worked for the gamecube, original xbox right? A bit more to it than that.

      • To be fair, the original xbox was a first timer, punching its way into the market against already settled competitors.

    • For this company, it is. Sigh…… nintendo is infamously known for staying out of touch with the gaming community.

      I just hope this NX or Wii X is not another disaster like the Wii U.

      • Cloudman

        They can be out of touch and really in touch. Sony and MS copy them for a lot of things for a reason.

        When it comes to software? They are the most in touch company. They cater to the fanbase more than anyone with IP revivals, great sequels, whatever.

        • They still need to make a decent operating community network, online store and some kind of medal system to make the hardcare gamers come back and finish more than just the story of a game.

          • Cloudman

            They have most of that

          • they do? That’s news to me. (by online store I mean on web, like the playstation store to buy digital games). and stickers don’t count.

    • Sexy Mcgee

      Nah, they just need to stop making pointless bespoke hardware and become third party already.

      • Wow, really? Salty much because you can’t play their games since you won’t buy their hardware? Get over it.

        • Sexy Mcgee

          With a hotheaded response like that it sounds like you’re the one who’s salty because no one is buying Nintendo consoles anymore. Personally, I don’t care. I haven’t been a Nintendo fan since the N64 days.
          I’m just pointing out the fact that instead of throwing good money after bad and hoping they nail a Wii again they could start putting their products on platforms that are relevant where people spend cash. I guess Nintendo are still salty about Sony giving them a walloping after the whole SNES-CD fiasco.

          • I was being sarcastic. Nintendo will be killed as we know them if they go third party. Happened to Sega. Imo, Nintendo needs to be in the game to keep the console competition sound and healthy.

          • Sexy Mcgee

            Sega didn’t get killed and certainly not because they went third party. They restructured because they didn’t have handheld and Wii money lying around to afford long stretches in the red as a hardware manufacturer.
            Sega never had the business acumen – putting their support behind loser after loser, nor the brands – even Sonic only has maybe three truly great games in the series – that Nintendo has. Their games only occasionally sparkled. Sega and Nintendo are completely incomparable.

          • Sega got killed off the hardware market because they made mistakes, it can’t be said simpler. Sega has since been totally out of the loop up until recently. They’ve survived because of sonic and that brand now struggles to stay in the limelight because of the milking.

            I had a NES and a SMS, and those two systems were comparable (and still is) to me. Sonic vs Mario. Safari Hunt vs Duck Hunt.

            I think there’s more than three good Sonic games. There’s the classics of course and the remakes of those – I liked those 2d remakes they made a few years ago. Loved Sonic Colours and Generations as well as Lost World.

    • Cudgiebat

      All that plus region free, would be perfect.

    • Black Heaven

      I… personally like the Wii U gamepad as a second screen. It’s an okay gimmick, just under-utilized.

      But if they’re gonna do away with that, at least give us a controller with a directional pad, at least 4 face buttons, 4 shoulder buttons, 2 pressable analogs, a start button and a home button. This seems to be the trending standards of console controllers in recent generations.

      They could add their gimmicks on top of the set of “standard” buttons above. Other buttons are optional like Select or the Power like on the Pro Controller, or perhaps a touch screen like the gamepad. Button / analog placement will be up to the console themselves.

      As for third party support, it’s only a matter of NX being a decent platform to work on or not.

      • For third party support, Nintendo needs to fit their controller to the same as the current gen controllers for easyness for developers, and easy to develop for. That’s the golden line.

    • Manuel Molina

      I think it’s a little bit more than that. The system has to have some power on par or above the PS4/Xbox One. If it doesn’t, third party support won’t do it good. The Wii had third-party. Ports were easy to make for the system and their versions were lacking in a lot.

    • Gigolo Aunt

      Amen brother.

    • Badouken

      Nintendo hasn’t had good 3rd party support since Super Nintendo. I’m not getting my hopes up that they will have good 3rd party support with Nx. Even if they did have a super powerful console and a normal controller (by default), I wouldn’t be surprised if 3rd parties still didn’t develop for them.

      • BigHurt360

        It had pretty decent 3rd party support on the cube imo. NES and Snes was ofc bigger as they were marked leaders, and after that Sony took over.

    • Greetingsfriend

      They can’t “give” you 3rd parties. That’s not how it works.

      • superkarma

        It actually is.

        • Greetingsfriend

          Only in the mind of ignorant gamers.

        • Nop. It has to be easy to develop for a console for it to be alluring for 3rd parties. Low specs and extra gimmicks such as the gamepad features is not making it easy. πŸ˜‰

    • alex80

      So, you basically want a PS4…
      That’s already out there.

      From a new console we need, you know, something New

    • Really, I just called up every major third party and asked if they’d give me some support and they said “yes” no questions asked.

    • HoistDude

      In my opinion the gamepad is the best controller ever made for a console. The Wii U pro controller is a very close second.

    • Eddie

      Don’t you get tired of asking for that? You know you’re not getting it, don’t you?

  • Davis Arend

    Gaming would benefit a lot from a proper console. Good luck Nintendo, please don’t let us down again.

  • Bonn Bo

    Nintendo is gonna have to dominate (emphasis on the DOMINATE) this E3 to get people excited for their new console, cause they’re coming in way late in the game this generation. If they play their cards right, they’ll get the support of their old fans again without a doubt.

  • Father Pucci

    Just go third party already.

    • garf02

      Delicious tears

    • MrSec84 .

      It’s not necessary for that to happen.
      Even if NX was just a new, core games console, if Nintendo were to actually make games that appeal to the diverse range of gamers who play on Playstation or XBox or PC, instead of just thinking about Nintendo gamers then they would have a hit.

      Nintendo needs to make a device that’s made for the gamer first, then the developer and they should back it with a solid online network, decent hardware, priced reasonably to make the cost of entry low enough for most gamers to buy one.

      Basically make a diverse range of games, a simple system that does what people want and Nintendo will be fine. If Nintendo really wants to sell a hook, then make a unified OS, that works on both a handheld and console, so any game you buy can play on both. Make that a core feature of the system, because it makes sense and people will see the value in being able to play their Nintendo games on any Nintendo system they can own in the future.

    • Shane O’Shaughnessy

      I really wish they would. As a PS4 owner, that’s really the only way they’ll ever get me to buy their stuff again. I’d spend hundreds of dollars on their software if it was on PS4, but I really don’t want their hardware.

      • YuriFan

        What’s wrong with their hardware. You’re just going to be playing Nintendo games on it anyway.

        • I think it has something to do with not wanting to have more consoles in the home. I do disagree tho.. if you want to play their games enough, just buy the hardware already.

  • Bryan

    If it’s still region locked I give up on Nintendo’s consoles. After buying 4 3DS’s (2 XL 2 normal size 1 for each region) and 1 Wii U having a bunch of games “localized” (censored) for the western market I’m fed up.

    • Adavanter Mki

      It would be nice to have the option to import.

      • garf02

        among all that bitching for localization and yet the people the import games even when they can still the miniscule %.

        That being said I do feel bad when when EU gets a game later, but I do hate they get the best collectors editions

  • Bebop

    man i really liked the gamepad concept…and playing shit like deus ex on it, or Xenoblade really made it interesting with two screens…plus its nice to get the off screen play. I like nintendo’s ambitiousness, i think that if they made the wii u more powerful…changed the god damn name, added Gamecube VC at the start like any sane person would have, as well as Marketing it as a actual console and not an add on. they would have had a better time…Finally making a proper account system so late and and the retarded small HD Space was also alittle silly to me. Come on Nintendo…clean up

  • MrSec84 .

    I’m really hoping that NX will unify future Nintendo game releases into a single ecosystem.
    One OS, that works on all NX devices and with that you can play all NX games on any piece of hardware in the NX family of products.

    Nintendo could launch with both a handheld and a console. The console runs the full fat 1080p 60FPS version of the game, with the best visuals on a Nintendo device, the handheld scales those visuals down to 480p, turning down some settings like AA, texture quality and amount of geometry or density of particles in games to allow a weaker piece of hardware to still play a similar experience on a smaller screen.

    All Wii U and 3DS games should run on NX from launch.
    NX should launch with some new entries of core Nintendo games, but also with new IPs that target the same market as the major western 3rd party releases.

    One of the major issues Nintendo’s had for a very long time is that they don’t really try to make games that appeal to gamers that play titles like Uncharted, Gears, Gran Turismo. Nintendo doesn’t really target the middle ground of players who don’t like traditional platform titles or games that aren’t so “hardcore” or “mature”.

    Nintendo will do horror/grim or colorful, but they lack a lot of variety for things that appeal to a different kind of audience.
    Along with reasonably priced, capable hardware I think if Nintendo really addressed this they would be much more successful within the video game market.

    Make sure the NX device(s) are designed for the gamer first, not innovation or gimmick for gimmick’s sake, while also attaching the NX OS/hardware to a decent online network and this could actually turn into a win for Nintendo.

    I just hope what the rumors are pointing to is what NX really is and that it’s not some new, behind the times device or something that once again doesn’t address Nintendo’s problems or lack of modern identity that the masses can get on board with.

    • Zatekuyo

      Dude, you really need to read off on what the rumors just said, and for me that’s not being Nintendo at all.

      You’re just getting your hopes stupidly high like others, and i rather have decently fir NX than anything.

      • MrSec84 .

        I’ve read the rumors and tbh it’s sounded like NX is something like this, whether that means one system will launch and then future devices will be released that do this, it certainly sounds like a possible Nintendo thing.
        Hell Iwata made a bunch of comments on wanting for Nintendo to take a similar approach with their hardware to how Apple does it, making one OS that all Apps work with.
        It’s an excellent business decision, because it would mean Nintendo would sell more games, increase their install base and nothing from a technological or software perspective prevents Nintendo from doing this.

        TBH the way Nintendo has done things with Wii U and 3DS hasn’t worked for them, given the decline in sales of their hardware and software. I’m not getting my hopes up at all, because I know Nintendo and I’m used to disappointment from them, especially in their recent history.
        If they keep innovating for innovation’s sake, without actually developing platforms, based on what gamers ask for and what has been proven to sell then they will either end up having to go 3rd party or die.

        I’m not sure what you were trying to say with the part of your post where you say “and i rather have decently fir NX than anything”, it doesn’t really make any sense. Maybe you can reply and actually communicate what you mean with that.

        • Zatekuyo

          Wow you’re really slow on replying it on the 4th paragraph, cause i already corrected this part due to me typing quick with few grammar errors on my tablet FYU.

          Which probably mean that, they are really playing up the second fiddle when it comes to architechs, not to mention the fact that DeNA is only assisting thr OS application that seems iOS/Android like for said NX, while they do the hardware and software kit stuff.

          Yeah, and for 3DS it’s still doing it really well, far more than Wii U itself, even if both doesn’t sell well as original wii and ds does.

          Honestly, we still don’t see, nor understand what NX looks like and apparently, it’s going back to a classical console route with the os system that DeNA assisted on like i mentioned earlier.

          • MrSec84 .

            I wasn’t slow at all, that was how it was written in your post an hour after you posted it, you hadn’t posted any corrections when I posted my reply too you.
            DeNA aren’t an OS programming company, actually that’s more of a Khronos Vulkan thing, FYI Nintendo are a member and contributor to the Khronos Foundation.
            DeNA actually handles online functionality, they usually handle web portals.

            They have dealings with online streaming software too and are helping Nintendo with their mobile games, as smart phone, app stuff.

            Nintendo would actually develop their OS internally, as they have done for every console, maybe they’d work with AMD, since they are under contract with Nintendo and have been for ages.
            Recent rumors, from very reliable sources have actually stated that NX is going to include both a handheld and a console, in separately released platforms. Both will use a version of the same OS. Iwata said way before he passed away that he wants Nintendo to go down the route of unifying their library of content to work like how Apple can run games or apps on any device they’re currently focused on.

            Every bit of information currently released from Nintendo themselves actually hints at this being what NX is. Hell we even know that Dragon Quest 11 is going to release on NX and funnily enough there’s both a handheld and a console version of that coming. No reason why NX as a handheld and a separate console unit can’t allow for seamless sharing of a game.

            Nothing from a tech or software perspective prevents this.
            You’re really not making any sense and you’re certainly not backing your points up with any legit information.

    • Shane O’Shaughnessy

      The problem is that the “hardcore” market is already firmly in Sony and Microsoft’s camp. I don’t see Nintendo abandoning it’s more casual/young audience fanbase in an attempt to capture a market that they have little chance of ever winning back.

      • MrSec84 .

        Not really, Nintendo are capable video game developers, they just don’t make games that appeal to a wider audience than the core Nintendo gamers.

        Hell the masses aren’t hardcore, they’re made up of all kinds of people and in order to get a huge amount of those gamers you need to make products that appeal to everyone.
        BTW Nintendo doesn’t have to “forget” Nintendo gamers to increase the range of diversity in their line-up, actually if their games run on both a handheld and a console they only have to make one version of a Mario game or whatever, thus their developers can actually be more productive, because they’re not making 2 versions of Mario, they can just make one Mario game and then use the resources for the other Mario game on a new IP.

  • StarTsurugi

    My prediction…
    It’ll include some weird gimmick that will scare all of the third party publishers away as usual.
    In terms of successfullness… I dunno. It could either underperform like the Wii U or it could pull a Wii and sell tons with no one quite sure why.

  • Pain Sama

    if the Nintendo NX gonna be more powerful than the PS4 and XBone, then Nintendo should start working on a solid game library and stop milking Pokemon, Mario and Zelda to death.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      That’s counter productive. How would they eat their cereal?

    • Cloudman

      Microsoft and Sony actually milk there series more than Nintendo does. At least Nintendo does different things with them. What is different in all the uncharted games?

      • Pain Sama

        the nathan drake collection is a remaster no one said it’s a new series, and the diffrent thing with with uncharted will be Uncharted 4 GOTY, and Sony have more than 20 exclusives and a lot of console exclusives… you’re comparing Sony to Nintendo, LOL seruously dude…?!!

        • Cloudman

          speak English.

          • Pain Sama

            butthurt Nintendo fanboy, did i hurt your feelings kid? aww… :/ if you’re brainless and know nothing about games why even make comments in first place kid!!… and when you have nothing to say you’d better shut up instead of bitching about grammar mistakes… ok kiddo? :’)

          • Cloudman

            At least I know you are a troll now. I can just ignore.

          • ..

  • Cloudman

    What is with these garbage fanboy ignorant comments? Sad seeing people who know nothing of Nintendo, what makes something successful in this industry pretend to put a thought together.

    • Nate

      You’re certainly losing your mind.

  • Cloudman

    Saying “oh they should go third party” just signals to everyone you are ignorant and know nothing about Nintendo..

  • Captain Clutch

    Please no gimmicks.

    • Cloudman

      Learn what a gimmick is. A feature is not a gimmick.

      • Captain Clutch

        What feature are you talking about? I simply said no gimmicks.

    • Greetingsfriend

      Please gimmicks. No gimmicks means no reason to care for their platform.

      • Captain Clutch

        How well did that work for the Wii U? The controller cost $100 alone.

        • Greetingsfriend

          The Wii U has bigger problems than the GamePad. Always did from the moment they uttered “Wii U”.

  • Cloudman

    I wish this site would seriously stop commenting on anything Nintendo. It just brings out the ignorant commenters..

    • I’ve seen plenty PS and Xbox article lure them into the comments section too. It’s just not only nintendo stuff. πŸ˜‰

      • Cloudman

        Funny thing is, we know Dragon Quest 11 is coming to NX, We know it is sufficiently powerful.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          We no nothing of NX, therefore, we don’t know what exactly sufficiently means just yet.

          • Cloudman

            Dragon Quest XI runs on Unreal 4. If DQ XI is coming to NX, we have that as a benchmark.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Do you work for Square Enix?

          • doesnt say shit about it. Games can be comprised to fit weaker hardware.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Like yourself, JRPGman? That’s rather hypocritical considering you do the same on PS and MS comment boards as well. Lol. You’re in no position to be calling anyone ignorant. Lol.

      • Cloudman

        I do not go on PS and MS comment boards. I do not even like commenting on this site, I enjoy the reviews but the ignorance in the comment section this time was too much for me to stay silent.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          Ignorance is in Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo fanboys in total. No point in playing the victim role on behalf of the Nintendo community. They are just as responsible for their own actions. Staying silent would have been the best course of action. By adding to the fire, you’re now just as ignorant as they are. Congrats. Lol.

          • Cloudman

            I admit I added fuel to the fire. But sometimes the ignorance of Nintendo haters and trolls, is too much.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Every console owner gets trolled. Not just Nintendo. It’s the internet, after all. Were you expecting a different outcome? Lol.

          • Cloudman

            Stupidly it seems.

  • Cloudman

    Nintendo was publisher of the year this year, 3DS did great, Amiibo did great.

    Kimishima confirmed NX will NOT be like Wii U, and people are still complaining? LOL.

    • Black Heaven

      Anxiety and fear for the brand, mostly. Since they’re leaving only bread crumbs up to this day. Too many shrouded info about the NX.

      Sure NX will “NOT be like Wii U”, but then again we don’t exactly want it to be “just different”, we want it to be “better”, in multiple aspects. Better specs, better 3rd party support, better everything.

      At first some people are speculating it will be a semi-console that will cater to mobile-ish indie games like Ouya, by that aspect it’s different from Wii U but heck I won’t buy it if it’s like that. No offense to indies though, they’re good okay but a console dedicated to them… doesn’t bode well for me.

      • Cloudman

        Is it Nintendo’s fault people are jumping the gun and acting like morons? lol.

        Nintendo will do what they feel has the best chance of success. A lot of times that is different than what “gamers” think.

        • Black Heaven

          Not entirely their fault, but they’re not completely clean either.

          Wii U is a decent ~ albeit underpowered for an 8th gen ~ console, but not at all a bad one. But somehow their unsuccessful marketing had made gamers all around to avoid it like plague. It didn’t appeal to the masses like they “felt” they would.

          • Cloudman

            Funny thing is if you look at the top 10 games sold on Wii U, the majority of them outsell the top 5 games on PS4.

            Gamers are buying the software on the system.

            I am not saying Wii U is perfect but the ignorance and just idiotic statements in these comments over a statement like this is stupid.

          • Black Heaven

            Other comments here?

            Oh I see, you’re JRPGMan, it’s been a while.
            Don’t worry I am not immediately repulsed by your presence, not entirely delighted though either.

            Back to our topic, I agree that the comments here are rather emotionally charged, but they’re not entirely wrong either. Majority of the outcries here are Wii U’s lack of 3rd party support, something they really do lack. But then again, it’s mostly tied to the console lacking in power compared to its other two competitors.

          • Cloudman

            Who?

            They are completely wrong. Lack of third party support and his comment are mutually exclusive.

          • Black Heaven

            (Hrm not exactly sure how to answer that…)

            Who?

            Well, just to fill you in. Legends say that JRPGMan is a very brave but lone keyboard warrior who wanders this site (and many others with Disqus support probably) to valiantly defend his banner, Nintendo, from heathens such as Xbots and Ponies. He has crossed the likes of comment veterans and domain lords alike, mostly getting ban hammered when he is valiant too much. Yet he always comes back under different identities, lurking and stalking from the shadows, waiting to yet again serve his banner against heathens. He could be you, he could be me, he could be anyone too edgy about any criticism pointed at Nintendo.

            They are completely wrong. Lack of third party support and his comment are mutually exclusive.

            And to answer this one. While I agree that his comment shouldn’t supposedly spark the proper response of “lacking 3rd party support” from commenters, that doesn’t exactly invalidate THE lack of 3rd party support in Wii U. Most notably AAA 3rd parties.

          • superkarma

            Yup, that must be why the Wii U failed as much as it did…because “devs just did not like Wii U”. It had absolutely nothing to do with its relatively laughable specs. Those damn devs just didn’t like it, man.

            Always hilarious to read the ramblings of a fanboy who has his head stuck in the sand. Nice to read your comments again, JRPGMan. I missed your idiocy around here.

          • It has something to do with more games on other systems. And the fact that Nintendo games don’t fall in price (my best guess? Nintendo would rather make the store send their games back to them than letting them sell out)

            Remember that charts only look at a certain time period from the games release date.

          • Cloudman

            Nintendo games stay at a high price, if anything that should mean they would sell less, not more lol. I am not saying Nintendo is perfect, but going crazy over a quote like this is silly

          • People know the price ain’t going down on the games so they might as well buy it early on instead of waiting. That’s the difference here – remember charts are only measured for some time.

          • It’s funny like every one of the three giants made huge mistakes on the console announcements this round.

            Microsoft: oh we’re all about online, that’s alright isnt it? They get into a three week long shitstorm for it.

            Playstation: Did the best out of the three, but they really made use of knowledge of microsoft doing.

            Nintendo: See this cool gamepad? You can play on it! *some kind of weird box shown on the screen in the background, don’t mind me*

        • Yes it is. It’s clearly a show of a miss from Nintendo, when fans are leaving the brand behind. Just look at the sales for the WU.

          • Cloudman

            Sales of Wii U are bad but software sales are better than PS4 and X1 in terms of the top selling games. 3DS sales are great, Amiibo is doing great. Not all doom.

            I can look at Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo and all find aspects of the games business that are not successful.

          • Of course. Less games to choose from makes higher sales for the games did do arrive.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Couldn’t have said it better.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Nice to see some level-headed individuals with no clear bias. Bravo to you.

          • I play on all systems and I like a good discussion, though it gets annoying when the other part is biased towards one system – no matter which it is.

      • I think when he said that, he thought of the horror story of the WU announcement. They talked too much about the controller, that even games journalists was confused. Was the hardware on the controller? Was it a big clumsy handheld? Could you use it with the current Wii?

        To me it sounds Nintendo wants the world to know they’re developing a brand new, full console.

    • superkarma

      I think we found JRPGMan.

  • Another BS-“revolution” from Nintendo. They don’t know what gamers want. They only know what their fans want. Okay then.

    • YuriFan

      Their fans are gamers.

  • colonel179

    The more they say about the NX (and it hasn’t been much), the more I get convinced this is going to be a somewhat hybrid between Home console and handheld console. And I believe that Dragon Quest XI will be the first third party game taking advantage of this new feature.

    One thing I really want from NX, is that Nintendo completely forgets everything about the Wii and Wii U and do everything differently. Different menus, different controllers, different everything. The only thing that could be transferred over (and it will) it’s amiibos (and Mii’s to an extent) But they should do something that has nothing to do with the Wii and Wii U!. However, I think they won’t do that. If the controller is some kind of handheld, then my guess is that that is where we will be able to play Wii U games as the second controller.

    We will have to wait and see what they do, but the NX needs to be as much as possible in par with PS4 and Xbox One to gain support from third parties (and I think it will be). I just please beg Nintendo: NO MORE GIMMICKS!.

    Can you imagine a world where you can choose Nintendo as your MAIN console, and you get to play every (most) third party games just as you do with the PS4 and Xbox One? Or even better, the NX is a very good console, that we can even get third party exclusives!! (gasp!)… Is that impossible to imagine?

    The PS4 and NX would be a great combination! (for me at least).

  • I_Like_Freddos

    Look at all these people that think nintendo dont know what so called “gamers” want. These are the same people that think pay to play online is normal when it’s free on pc and wii u. You aren’t a real fan of gaming if you accept bs.

    • Cloudman

      Last I checked, innovation was exactly Nintendo’s chief appeal. It sure as hell ain’t a diverse library of third party games, a versatile digital platform, or impressive hardware.

      Fact of the matter is that the biggest innovations in gaming history all come from Nintendo.

      Do you like what is now the traditional gamepad layout?
      Thank Nintendo.
      Do you like analog sticks?
      Thank Nintendo.
      Do you like rumble feedback?
      Thank Nintendo.
      Do you like touch-screen controls?
      Thank Nintendo.
      Do you like motion-controls?
      Thank Nintendo.
      Do you like second-screen play (via WiiU, Vita, Mobile)?
      Thank Nintendo.

      The simple fact of the matter is that all of the biggest, broadest changes in the game industry over the past 30 years… all came from Nintendo. Pretty much the *only* areas where they weren’t ahead of everyone else were online play (thank SEGA, maybe? Or Windows 95?) and HD display output.

      You can think whatever you like about Nintendo’s games, or their hardware… you can dismiss their constantly seeking to disrupt the status quo as “gimmicks.” But you cannot, you absolutely cannot deny to irrevocable impact they have had on the *entire* games industry.

    • Actually, I think Nintendo should consider implementing pay to play online for the NX. It will help build their online infrastructure which is shit compared to the other consoles.

      • I_Like_Freddos

        You are part of the problem with gaming today. PC has free online so take your damage control elsewhere.

        • Daniel Gonzalez

          PC and Consoles are two different beasts. Take your damage control elsewhere. πŸ˜‰

          • I_Like_Freddos

            I have a ps4 and don’t play online. If the fanbase didnt pay sony would be forced to drop the paywall, fact.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s because the majority of the fanbase isn’t bothered by paying a mere average of 4 bucks a month for a whole year($50). You’re basically going by what you believe will happen. Not facts. Besides, Plus isn’t just for playing online. It has its benefits. Just as Xbox Live. If you don’t want to pay for it, then don’t. It’s not a loss for anyone.

          • I_Like_Freddos

            I don’t give a sh!t about ps+.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            That’s fine. I don’t give a sh*t if you don’t. πŸ˜›

          • I_Like_Freddos

            Have fun with your monthly indies.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Poor muffin is very mad. πŸ˜‰

          • I_Like_Freddos

            Mad about what? I’m a real fan of gaming unlike some people.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Awwwh…you think you know what a real fan of gaming is. That’s so cute. ;P

          • This Guy

            You must be great to talk to at parties.

          • Hardly.

          • And in the meantime, the network be less secure and less stable. And no free games either.

          • I_Like_Freddos

            I’m not going to argue with fanboys. It pointless. You guys are stupid and sadly it may never change.

          • LOL. I play on all systems dude.

          • I_Like_Freddos

            Doesn’t mean you aren’t a corporate slave to companies.

          • A fanboy doesn’t play on all systems. A fanboy has one or two system they defend, more often than not in an obtuse way.

            Liking something does not make me blind nor a slave.

          • I_Like_Freddos

            Never said liking something makes you a slave. Defending bad business practises does though.

          • How is adding a subscription fee bad practice? People buy it – not because they have to, but because they want it.

          • I_Like_Freddos

            The games aren’t free when you are paying a subscription. Like I said you guys are stupid.

          • When the games would have cost more without the subscription, they’re free. πŸ˜‰

          • I_Like_Freddos

            Cross play with pc players in street fighter v and pc guys dont pay for online on the same server. You cant get owned anymore than that. Stop defending bs.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Once again, different beasts, different business. Owned? Haha….you crazy internet kids and your silly delusions. It’s cute. I don’t have to defend bs, I tell it like it is. ;P

          • I_Like_Freddos

            Man these fanboys

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Shouldn’t insult yourself like that. Have some self-esteem.

          • I_Like_Freddos

            Shu, is that you? Stop trying nickle and dime your consumers.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Awwwh….the salt is real. πŸ˜‰

          • I_Like_Freddos

            lol, I’m not paying so I win.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            If you don’t have money, naturally. I win. πŸ˜€

          • I_Like_Freddos

            I have money and I spend it on
            the right things.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            The mere fact that you have to tell me that, means that you’re a bit insecure on what people think of you. I honestly don’t care what you spend your money on. People are entitled to spend their money however they please. ;P

          • Nice aggressive defense there.

          • I think I will shoot an email to the Capcom PR representative and suggest they take a monthly fee for playing from PC. Only because of your comments.

          • I_Like_Freddos

            lol the damage control.

          • you still havent explained what you mean by damage control. It makes no sense.

          • I_Like_Freddos

            You’re defending bs when there’s proof.

          • what proof and what bs? You’re talking nonsense.

          • Carl

            You forget one crucial thing: on PC, games are distributed digitally (Steam, Origin, Uplay, whatever else), which means less costs (no retailer cut, no shipping, no nothing). Also, on PC, game publishers/developers don’t pay royalties to Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft in order to use their servers. They do pay a smaller fee to Valve, though.

            Finally, a few games being console/PC cross-play compatible (at the request of the developer, of course) doesn’t mean every game can be like that.

          • Steam does takes cuts tho.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      It’s cute when people think they define what a real fan of gaming is. You don’t give any fan a good rep. ;P

  • JustGaming

    Oh good lord…… The comments.

  • wardy from narnia

    dear Nintendo,
    dont mess up you next console,that is all…signed me! (and possibly a few others)
    or this might happen….

  • Erik The Red

    If the NX is not backwards compatible with Wii U games. I’ll pass. I’m not buying another console just because Nintendo screwed up with the Wii U. I’m not paying for their mistakes. Side note: I could care less about third party support. I’m not interested in Madden Thugs 16, COD rehashes, FIFA (same thing over and over) and the other weak generic yearly releases. I bought a Wii U for Nintendo games not for third party junk.

    • I agree. It needs to be able to play Wii U games. But adding good third party to a console might make it an easier buy for those who like Nintendo, but aren’t hardcore fans. They might want to play other games than Nintendo IPs but not having the money or space to more than one console.

  • HoistDude

    Of course they are not in any rush to release it. Why would they be? The 3DS and the Wii U both sold great this holiday. The current Nintendo install base this generation (3DS plus Wii U) is closing in on 75 million hardware units. Compared to what 4 million Vitas? 33 million PS4s? 20 million or so Xbox Ones?
    It is all about software sales, folks — and software sales is determined by active install base. Given the install base for current Nintendo consoles are still more than both Sony and Microsoft combined, don’t expect them to be in any hurry to release the NX anytime soon. My guess is holiday 2017 at the EARLIEST — at least for North America.

  • *Don’t read replies*

    Could be similar to that of the GameCube with Nintendo Game Boy Player adapter, but a much better version and handheld + backwards compatibility. And back to cartridges ?

  • EliBook

    Hi I just want to inform all folks who live outside US that Nintendo Wii U is a great media Player. If you want to access Netflix and other streaming stations on your Nintendo Wii U you can use UnoTelly as I do to get around the geo block.