PS4 and Xbox One Sold 55 Million Units Combined by the End of 2015, According to Electronic Arts

During Electronic Arts’ quarterly financial conference call CFO Blake Jorgensen talked the company’s estimate for combined installed base of PS4 and Xbox One consoles.

According to the company, both consoles sum up to 55 million units sold as of the end of calendar year 2015. That’s almost 50% higher than in the same time frame during the PS3/Xbox 360 generation.

Considering that the PS4 sits at 35.9 million in Sony’s most recent announcement, this means that the Xbox One should have sold about 19.1 million units. This, of course, assuming that Electronic Arts’ estimate is correct.

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  • The_Shepard

    19 million for Xbone isn’t too far-fetched I think. PS4 has had close to 2:1 lead worldwide since launch now, very impressive by Sony and by the look of the list of games for 2016, the lead should grow.

    • Rihoko Inverse

      With the list of Xbox one’s 2016 games. It should easily keep up with the PS4’s growth.

      • skratchy

        Maybe… PS4 has WAY more coming out though, so far anyway.

      • IceColdBlue

        Xbox One only has 2 fully exclusive games in 2016, Quantum Break and Crackdown 3

        Ps4 has over 50 LMAO at what you said

        • Ritsuko Blue

          Wow! Are you from the future? New games can be release this year. All those 50 games don’t look like hardware sellers. Sony fanboy.

      • static5225

        Actually, the XB1 has a pretty bad exclusive problem, especially when it comes to the first half of this year…

        • nextleveltaken

          These lists are always way off track. DOA Extreme 3 isn’t coming to the states (guess you can import it), Heavy Rain/Beyond Two Souls and a number of others are PS3 ports and several others will be delayed.

          • static5225

            As you’ve said, the English version of DOA Xtreme 3 is accessible, so I don’t really see a problem with that.

            Dismissing certain games as “PS3 ports” is inaccurate because they are remastered and also ignorant of PS4 owners who did not own a PS3 or a PSV. I guess I should take out Roblox because it’s a 2006 game that is also on Android and iOS, leaving the number of XB1 exclusives to just 2. Sorry, I have to maintain the same standard across both platforms if you want to look at it that way…

            Insinuating that “several others” will be delayed is a two-way street. If you want to say that for the PS4, then you have to apply the same standard for the XB1. After all, the first delays of this year happened to ReCore and Scalebound. In addition, this is just the first half of this year and games with confirmed release dates were included. Games like Day of the Tentacle and Fairy Fencer F Advent Dark Force were not listed because they have release windows (e.g. Spring 2016).

          • nextleveltaken

            Quantity over quality? You forgot Killer Instinct and Cuphead. Besides, vast majority of high profile releases are multi-platform. And, I own BOTH consoles, so I have no dog in this fight.

          • static5225

            Did you miss the part where I said I’m only including games with confirmed release dates? Cuphead doesn’t have a release date yet (only a general 2016 release) and Killer Instinct is not a new game. If you want to hold that standard, then you should have no problem with me adding Final Fantasy XIV Patch 3.12 or Driveclub’s next expansion.

            Also, proclaiming that you have both consoles is a mixture of the Appeal of Moderation and Appeal to Authority fallacies. Your points are what being scrutinized, not what consoles you have.

        • Ritsuko Blue

          Not all them look like hardware sellers. But whatever.

          • J.j. Barrington

            Same can be said of that Xbox lineup of yours.

      • Larry Rose

        Delusional.

        • Ritsuko Blue

          Says Sony fanboy.

          • Larry Rose

            No. Says facts.

            #anotherdelusionalboner

      • Rob

        I love the sarcasm.

        • Ritsuko Blue

          Well. Sony fanboys love their sarcasm and HATE!

      • Michael Norris
      • J.j. Barrington

        And with the list of PS4 titles for this year, that should easily be a fantasy.

        • Ritsuko Blue

          Says Sony fanboy!

          • J.j. Barrington

            Are you in any position to talk about fanboys? No, I thought not.

      • such.wow

        Hmm…

  • J.j. Barrington

    That sounds about right.

    • Rihoko Inverse

      If its true.

      • J.j. Barrington

        IF, yes. But it seems likely.

  • Sayonara

    PS4 WAS at 35.9 mil at the beggining of January 3rd. Sales didn’t stopped.

    PS4 35.9 mil. announcement is from beginning of the January. Now it is
    almost end of January. PS4 sales are averagely 1 mil+ every month. PS4
    are probably around 37 mil. and Xbone around 18- 18.5 mil.

    • ChaoticP

      Sales didn’t stop for neither company.

      • static5225

        Yeah, it’s not like that EA doesn’t have the money to invest in market research and subscriptions from data corporations like NPD Group, GFK, and the International Data Corporation /s

        • ChaoticP

          EA has no more access to information from those organizations than anyone else, that’s why it’s an “estimate.”

          • static5225

            “the others only research in order to find an estimate”

            Dude… the NPD Group also does that. I have to say, congratulations… you just won the “Most Stupid Post of the Thread” award.

          • ChaoticP

            All the more reason you’re wrong, so congratulations on proving how stupid you are for me.

          • static5225

            “Difference being they have specific sales data gathered from retailers as far as I know GFK or IDC doesn’t offer such information.”

            Neither does NPD. The most we get is the software Top 10 rankings. How we know whether the PS4 or XB1 won the month is because of Sony or MS’s PR, not because of NPD.

            “In any case you’re a goddamn fool if you think anyone besides Sony or Microsoft has free access to the number units their consoles have sold.”

            This is a strawman fallacy. You’re refuting an argument that I never proposed in the first place. Reread this comment I made earlier: “Yeah, it’s not like that EA has the money to invest in market research and subscriptions from data corporations like NPD Group, GFK, and the International Data Corporation.”

            Note that I said “subscriptions from data corporations like NPD Group, GFK, and the IDC.” Also, you’re a fool if you think Sony and MS gets free access in the first place. In fact, you haven’t given any proof that they do, so why in the world did you make that claim in the first place?

          • ChaoticP

            “Neither does NPD. The most we get is the software Top 10 rankings. How we know whether the PS4 or XB1 won the month is because of Sony or MS’s PR, not because of NPD.”

            Wrong NPD has reported specific sale’s figures as well as information that could be used to accurately gauge sales gap at least in US(i.e were sales doubled was the lead marginal, etc). Your sarcastic comment clearly implies you believe the estimate can be taken as fact otherwise why bring up those organization in the first place as they don’t change the fact they are still only estimates or are you just bringing up information for the sake of it. Furthermore saying that EA has accessed their information from these organizations equates to nothing more than assumption. Why do I think they are personal estimates? Because they say it.

            “Our estimate is 55 million units out there” – Blake Jorgensen

            If that’s all I think we’re done here.

          • static5225

            “Wrong NPD has reported specific sale’s figures as well as information that could be used to accurately gauge sales gap at least in US(i.e who outsold who, were sales doubled, was the lead marginal, etc) granted it hasn’t been as specific recently.”

            Nope. NPD samples about 95% of the market and extrapolates for the rest of the 5%. Other corporations like the GFK and IDC do something similar.

            “Furthermore saying that EA has accessed their information from these organizations equates to nothing more than assumption. ”

            It’s way more logical than anything you’ve said (or your entire comment history, for that matter). For a company to have several millions of dollars, it is perfectly logical that EA has enough money to gather data from external sources as well as doing its own market research. EA’s estimates can reasonably be believed because of that. In contrast, I shouldn’t believe you because you consistently talk out of your ass.

          • ChaoticP

            “EA’s estimates can reasonably be believed because of that. ”

            Because what? Because you’re operating under assumption they have information from 3rd party sources, whom you yourself have even stated lack factual data. Listen I don’t give a damn if you believe me but if you’re gonna try to discredit me you’re gonna have to come at me with something more than “EA can be trusted because they have the bucks.”

          • static5225

            So you’re basically saying that you do not have counterargument.

            “Because you’re operating under assumption they have information from 3rd party sources, whom you yourself have even stated lack factual data. ”

            Nope, reread what I said about NPD. It collects data of 95% of the market and extrapolates for the remaining 5%, so the vast majority is factual and the same applies to GFK and IDC.

            “Listen I don’t give a damn if you believe me but if you’re gonna try to discredit me you’re gonna have to come at me with something more than “EA can be trusted because they have the bucks.””

            Proof by assertion. Adamantly dismissing my points because you don’t want to accept them is not a valid argument. I’d rather trust EA’s estimates over your dismissal of EA’s estimates because I know for a fact that EA has the resources to purchase data and gather data on its own. You, on the other hand, do not have that capacity. Unless you have the PS4 and XB1’s sales numbers in your hands that contradict EA’s number, then I (and anyone else) have no reason to believe you.

          • ChaoticP

            “So you’re basically saying that you do not have counterargument.”

            No I do not need as the entire basis of your logic is flawed.

            “Adamantly dismissing my points because you don’t want to accept them is not a valid argument.”

            True if that’s what I was doing, however dismissing your points because they lack relevance is totally valid. You’ve made no clear case to support why I or anyone else should believe these estimates are correct, you’ve only given reasons as to why it’s possible they are accurate under certain conditions which you are not entirely aware of. It’s fine if YOU trust EA over me however whether I or EA is a more credible source of information is not the reason for this discussion. This is a Strawman Fallacy, you’re refuting an argument I never proposed.

          • static5225

            “No I do not need as the entire basis of your logic is flawed.”

            Show it instead of asserting it.

            “True if that’s what I was doing, however dismissing your points because they lack relevance is totally valid.”

            Argumentum ad nauseum.

            “It’s fine if YOU trust EA over me however whether I or EA is a more credible source of information is not the reason for this discussion. This is a Strawman Fallacy, you’re refuting an argument I never proposed.”

            It is not a strawman fallacy because you did propose that argument, by being skeptical of EA’s estimate without proof. If you’re skeptical of EA’s estimate, you need to provide evidence to support that. You have not while I have successfully countered your claim. So congratulations, you just did the Argument from Fallacy.

          • ChaoticP

            “It is not a strawman fallacy because you did propose that argument, by being skeptical of EA’s estimate without proof.”

            If you seriously believe being skeptical on EA’s estimates is the same as proposing to be a more credible source information I don’t think there’s any point in continuing this conversation. You’ve made the proposal that EA’s estimates are to be believed without a doubt which means the burden of evidence falls upon you to prove that they without a doubt are, unless you can do that I am free to be skeptical of their estimates.

          • static5225

            “You’ve made the proposal that EA’s estimates are to be believed without a doubt which means the burden of evidence falls upon you to prove that they without a doubt are, unless you can do that I am free to be skeptical of their estimates.”

            Strawman fallacy. I said that it is logical to believe EA’s estimates because of their capacity and resources to gather data from data corporation and do their own market research. If you have to misconstrue my previous comments to support your point, then your argument has already failed.

            Also, you’re confusing skepticism with denialism. The onus is on you to prove that my logic is not sound and I have asked you on multiple occasions what parts of my arguments do you disagree with. Instead, you’re just saying “No, you’re wrong because I say so”.

          • Seriously I had to butt in, but you dragged it on too long imo. You can’t ever convince a stubborn individual that can’t debate on a serious level.

            When someone doesn’t tackle your arguments head on and don’t provide counter arguments and at the same time accuse you of having a different opinion (taking stuff out of context and twisting them for their own conveniences) means you are dealing with a stubborn individual who is close minded and made his mind up from the start.

            In conclusion. Why waste your energy lol.

          • He never claimed to believe EA’s estimates without a doubt. FFS.

          • ChaoticP

            That’s exactly what you claim when you believe when you believe the estimates are not to be questioned, but nice of you to try and help him.

          • He never claimed that EA has free access to the number of units their consoles have sold. FFS.

      • EA’s personal estimate which is just about as good as anyone else’s estimate?
        I am pretty sure it is the most accurate we will get since MS doesn’t want to disclose their numbers.

        You honestly think EA by mentioning this in an official financial call would pull numbers out of their asses?

        Sure estimates are still assumptions and not factual proof. However it is NOT about as good as anyone else’s estimate. I think EA holds more merit.

        • static5225

          “You honestly think EA by mentioning this in an official financial call would pull numbers out of their asses?”

          This is a terrific point, which I surprisingly missed. If EA is lying, they will get in trouble.

          • Your arguments are very solid. Information is key and is worth a ton. Information is being bought every second in every industry.

            Businessess analyse everything and definitely statistics and numbers. EA wants to know what is healthy and what not so it’s basic logic EA is discussing this topic in the first place xD

        • ChaoticP

          “You honestly think EA by mentioning this in an official financial call would pull numbers out of their asses?”

          Never made that claim. I’d like to say Strawman fallacy, but I feel it’s getting played out.

          “Sure estimates are still assumptions and not factual proof. However it is NOT about as good as anyone else’s estimate. I think EA holds more merit.”

          Your personal faith or belief towards how a company operates has no merit in this argument. I’ve already said it’s fine if you think the numbers are more believable, but if you want to prove that to someone else the evidence must be unquestionable.

    • Boerewors

      January is a slow month though. And looking at the prices you’d be a fool to buy one now, or desperate to play 😀

  • Captain Clutch

    So 19 mill are xbones. VGchartz is accurate

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      There’s no actual confirmation on the sales of the Xbox One at this point. So I wouldn’t say accurate, but perhaps close to the number.

    • Michael Norris

      At this point MS will keep quite on sells since Playstation has more market share than both Xone and WiiU. I just don’t understand why folks get caught up in the sells figures.

    • such.wow

      They aren’t accurate with where the consoles are selling, I think their Germany and France numbers are incorrect. Their guesstimates for total might be OK.

  • Boerewors

    If you let go of PS4’s insane sales, that’s actually not bad, especially given their bumpy start. They neglect the PAL region, hardly sell a console in Asia and still manage to squeeze out 18- 19 million in 2 years time; imagine what they could do with a decent strategy! Oh wait, Sony is showing exactly what they could do with the right strategy.

    • Rad4Life

      I am a Sony fanboy but everything you just said is spot on!

  • Daniel Gonzalez

    PS4 is killing it like always. Even so, Xbox One sales have definitely improved, and should get better with time.

  • RealityCheck2015

    So – 40 Million PS4’s and only 15 Million Xbox ONE’s I bet 😀

    • Othermind

      Read the post…. 35.9 – 19.1

      • J.j. Barrington

        He needed that reality check.

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  • Noctis Lee

    console gaming dying? pff!! in Asia well is true

  • I have a PS4 and PC. Consoles aren’t dead yet. lol

  • such.wow

    Xbox One estimated to be tracking roughly the same as PS3 and higher than Xbox 360 (these are shipped (sold-in) not sold-through:)
    http://i.imgur.com/VvJnDfT.jpg

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  • Ryan McKenzie

    19 million less PU4’s in the world! Not bad!

  • nextleveltaken
    • Ritsuko Blue

      Sony Fanboys here ( as you can see from comments below ) is just FULL of HATE and just plain Nasty!

  • SirAngry

    These sales figures are pretty damn impressive for both systems. Obviously the PS4 is doing great and if there is any justice the amazing exclusive line.up they’ve got planned in 2016 will mean even more sales. Ditto Microsoft and the Xbox One. 2016 is looking like a vintage year for computer games. Great time to be a gamer, bad time for my bank balance.